Howaythetoon

Says the kid with 8,000 plus posts 115589[/snapback] From work 115590[/snapback] At my tax paying expense. Get back to work you lazy bastard.

Is it not unfair to judge a player on his price tag though? It's not his fault he cost 8m and I think when people use the price tag thing, it highlights ignorance or a lack of real ability to judge a player based on football merits. Not saying you can't judge a player or that I can, just saying I think it's an excuse or an easy way out for many. If Boumsong cost nothing like Elliott for example, he wouldn't have ahd half the stick he gets, there may even be elements of sympathy or pitty or he wouldn't be discussed at all like Hughes for example who was always considered "a good lad, good to have around" etc. I think he's ideally suited to the Premiership as he has athleticism and pace and he has shown he's trong enough by containing Henry 3 times now. His timing is all off and he's clearly playing at a rushed speed, he always seems to be in a hurry, I think his confidence is shot and he's unhappy, he's going into games wanting them to finish as quickly as possible. I still think we can turn him around and get some use out of hime, as with many of our players. Imagine a Wenger in charge? How would Wenger handle a player like Ameobi for example? Or a Boumsong/Bramble?

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Fucking hell - such a charmer "Aye pet, you'll do for now, just let me shoot me load over your tits and then be off with you!" 115564[/snapback] But very true, that's the way we think ladies, all men, even if they say different. As a lad, you read magazines, see big knockers and you shoot your muck over them, when you're old enough to pull one of these 'crackers' in a bar, you take them hyem and complete your fantasy. Once or twice is fun, then you get bored, life gets a hold of you, brains and looks etc. become important and all that bollocks.

I do, I also rate Bramble and Shola to some extents. IMO if a player has shown, even if it's in a small window, of being capable of performing at this level which all have numerous times, as a keen observer I ask well why can't they do it week in week out? Why do they go from one extreme to another? I.e. good performances followed by shocking ones? I'm aware Boumsong has been absolute gash this season but so have others and I think he's more of a byproduct of our more overall failures. Take Cris for example, the Brazilian. Gash a few years back, one of the worst defenders I've seen, now playing out of his skin week in week out, so why can't Boumsong? I mean it's not as if he's been gash all his career, he was a star in France is a regular for France and has played well in our shirt many a time. For me Boumsong has raw ability, forget his price tag, forget his shocking performances for a moment, he has ability, why isn't this showing in him regularly though? Is it because he's lacking confidence? Is it because the defence don't protect him enough? Is it because he hasn't really had a regular partner? Is it because of personal problems? Is it because of all these factors? For me, I will support the player and club if they did their best to "come good" even if I have to sit through shit performances, and if after a year or so of trying and there has been no improvement, then I will say, fair enough get rid, try again. We can't afford to be so wreckless with our signings, discard them like broken toys when they don't light up or do a trick. This is where our club lags behind Arsenal for example. Had Sol Campbell pulled his stunt at Toon, we'd have him stung up by his bollocks, but Wenger knew it was mentally where he was falling apart so he worked on him, made it out to be no big deal, we as a club need to look afer our players in that vain and we as fans need to trust the club to do so. But first, we need a Wenger type manager

Obviously the more talent the less individual errors but why don't Wigan make schoolboy errors week in week out like wor lot do it seems? Man to man, we have the 'superior' talent but a poorer defensive record. Conditioning, working as a unit on the training pitch day in day out, no real chopping and changing etc. That's what I mean by some top-class coaching and some patience from fans will help eradicate needless errors. That's not to say we'll suddenly have a good defence, we won't, that's where good players come into it but we could easily cut out 10-15 goals against via some hard work on the training pitch. It's no coincidence that since Roeder took over, we've looked better defensively, not by much, but we know he has been proactive on the training pitch where as with Souness it was all about grafting your bollocks off and not beating him in 5-a-side "I've still got it" games. I disagree with Distin BTW, I think he has something Bramble doesn't which is the ability to 'download' informtation quickly and act on it. With Bramble it's the rabbit in the headlamps effect, and before he knows it he's been caught out, he just doesn't have good reaction skills IMO. Fabulous technical ability, power, good in the air etc., as a player he's probably better than Distin, in the head though... where it all matters for me as a defender more than real ability.

I think it will be O'Neill. If Curbs or Allardyce were good enough or deemed good enough, they'd have hired them without all this selection daftness, they are just "considering" them to be seen to looking at as many candidates as possible, a bit like us "taking our time", no we aren't, we haven't looked at a number of candidates, we've went for O'Neill from day one and only now when it looks like he may snub us or we may lose out to the FA, are we suddenly getting applicants (Houllier) or looking at the "wider spectrum" as FS said nrecently. Bollocks, I doubt very much Houllier has shown interest and for me, that's the club's way of trying to force O'Neill into a decision one way or another, like a threat of "if you don't take it, he (Houllier) will. Anyhow, Oliver says it'll be McClaren...

For wanting more money? Or because you think he's shit? I quite like him as a player and he seems to have developed his all-round game a lot, more composed, more consistent. Still not and never will be in the class of Woody (when fit) but we aren't in a position to attract a world-class defender much less afford one. Anyhow, for me our defence isn't a shambles as in individuals or the back-four, it's the way we defend as a team that creates the defensive weaknesses at the back. Especially on the flnaks, all successful sides cut out crosses and force teams to play square balls accross the middle, i.e. balls that can esily be intercepted or a way of playing that doesn't really go anywhere. Watch Liverpool., experts at it. They rarely concede headers or sloppy goals in and from around the box. The whole object of defending is to keep the opposition at bay, as far back as possible. Our attack and midfield just don't potect that back-four as they shoul, not together as units anyway so it's no surprise we leak goals and make very poor individual mistakes. Even the best defenders in the world when put under pressure can look like an ass, the likes of Terry though very rarely get left isolated to be put under any kind of pressure. Boumsong? Ramager? Bramble? All the time. A top-class coach/manager and some patience from fans will see to it that we cut out defensive errors. Good players will form a good sheild. We have good players...

I know that a placement at another club doesn't simply make someone a good manager. Berti Vogts went to clubs all over the world and obviously learnt nothing. It is just that I hope that a new manager would bring in a new culture to the club. And if someone (successfully) tried to copy the training and playing style of Barcelona it just would be great (not GREAT). 115481[/snapback] Says a lot about our club when we get a hard on at the thought of someone replicating the training methods at Barcelona at our own club. We are crying out for some originality, some dispassionate, inependent thinking.

If this happens, yet more evidence that we are a joke club. Great player when fit but what the fuck do we want a player for who can only contribute in small doses? Madness. I'd rather blood a youngster through into the squad pecking oreder or spend 3m on an average joe who will fill in the number of games Woodgate is likely to feature in... not a lot. Kid's career is finished, he will never play more than 20 games a season, certainly not on the bounce. He's just not built for it. What we need is a genuine defender, we have Taylor who can go on to become a top-class defender (with any luck), we need someone who will play every game, who can do all the basics, who will give us good leadership and stability at the back, someone who will give us value for money. Something we just haven't had from any of our defensive buys in many a year now. I'd be happy with an Upson, a Distin, A Mellberg.

Watched it, canny I thought. Bit long drawn out and predictable but OK when there's nowt better on the box.

Scarily similar to my own 'types'. I quite like Asian lasses and have went out with one before (Indian). I like black lasses for obootyvious reasons. Byonce Knowles... phwoar! (more a fantasy thing though) I'm not into the 'stunners' though like J-Lo, Jennifer Aniston etc. Do nowt for me, meet better looking lasses doon the Toon. I like the quirky look, the 'different' look. That's what appeals to me these days, done the big titted skinny blonde slapper thing, done the Asian thing, done the brunnette, ginge and all that, a lass for me has to have something about her other than her obvious features these days like. Has anyone seen Band of Brothers? The French nurse, in one of the episodes? Not particularly stunning, but that type appeals to me, I go for that or the bird in that film Suzy Gold. I don't like big tits either, areet to shoot your load over every now and again but a big titted lass, I couldn't go out with one for any length of time, again a fantasy type of lass we all want but quickly get bored with (for me anyway). I am quite fussy like. Looks are important but not the be all and end all, as I get older I like a lass o have some brains between her ears and someone who is funny is a big turn on. When you're young you'll stick your nob into anything, much more selective now.

Is that what the unemployed eat these days? Good job i've rationed for the next 6 weeks... 115090[/snapback] Top scran that man.

Seconded. *stops deleting www.hitzfeldforthetoon.ccom*

Aye

Called a Bucket tbh. 115076[/snapback] Shit name for a book. Edit: Ah, you beat me to it. Still, bucket then, your point being? 115077[/snapback] Nowt

Called a Bucket tbh.

36? I can wack one out every 6 seconds. I just hav.... uhhhhrrrr to think about..... ihrrrrrrrrr.. sex...a dnf.... Oh and no hands either.

Tbh.

Equally with "Chelski".

Stick to rounders. Leave socca to the pros.

Depends if I have the image of a middle-aged bloke talking to someone and sticking his tongue out when he's finished. I'll let you decide which is more high school tbh. 115028[/snapback] I'm not middle aged though son, struck a nerve though I see 115030[/snapback] Laughing at your own jokes as well. 115049[/snapback] Nearly as bad as answering your own questions that like.

Bread, butter, mayo, crisps, yum-yum. Great snack.

The tosser in the stands deserved a kicking. Cantona is without a doubt a Premiership legend, if just for his notoriety. Brilliant player. Hid in Europe mind. 114908[/snapback] So it's ok for any player to do that to a fan, under those circumstances is it? Bollocks tbh. 114928[/snapback] Who said that? Going bald and blind. Keep off the glue stick. 114985[/snapback] Glue stick? I'm not the one who bleats on about how they were addicted to marijuana as a bairn and uses it as an excuse for leaving school with fuck all qualifications. Weak-willed tbh 115000[/snapback] Eh? More evidence of glue stick abuse.

Depends if I have the image of a middle-aged bloke talking to someone and sticking his tongue out when he's finished. I'll let you decide which is more high school tbh. 115028[/snapback] I'm not middle aged though son, struck a nerve though I see 115030[/snapback] He just looks middle aged because of his hairless heed.