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That all immigrants are 'bad uns'. FACT! Although it's become a more watered down "Britain is 'overpopulated'" as the thread has developed, hoping that nobody would notice. I think it was NJS that said that it was down to economic factors rather than, race, creed etc.... I'm proud as a country that we are willing to helpout people from less developed countries who are geniunley persecuted. Obv the system has been abused and numbers need to be regulated though.. When it comes to it, If I was walking down a dark alley with with either a gang of charvers at the bottom or a gang of immigrants, I know which group I'd be more aprehensive of. That's a moderate and perfectly valid viewpoint. Leazes on the other hand is just talking shit, as spoon fed to him by the right wing press. the likes of njs, hf, parky are just the other side of that coin. he might be out of line lumping you in with them, but he has a point with regards to the average "lefty's" position on this forum. Thing is, I'm not making an extreme leftist point just by pulling him up for talking baseless right wing nonsense, I'm merely pointing out he's talking shit. It's simply his stock in trade reaction to label you a 'loony lefty' if you disagree with him. After you do this, most threads of this ilk then tend to develop with someone expressing a more centre right view, which he'll then try and either i) claim supports his earlier (far right) views-which it almost certainly doesn't, or ii) adopt wholesale as his own-at which point the basic premise of the argument has shifted altogether and you're into the usual circularity nonsense. I agree with To dumb, not you Sammy but to a large majority on here on both sides of the fence you're either or

Was no where near as impressive as people were saying it was. The money's piled on Beautiful Sound, this can drag me out the shite.

Different culture mate. While the Japanese are currently facing hell on earth, here in Australia a 101 year old lady has her watch and shopping money stolen by a pair of middle aged men who obviously preyed on her and waited for an opportune time to nail her. A 95 year old blind woman gets bashed and robbed and an 80 year old bloke coming home from watching the movies gets pummeled and is left lying on the middle of the road. On the weekend a few coppers get blood spat in their face for trying to break up a fight. I've always said Australia and particularly America are our naughty kids who have turned in to right wronguns. unfortunately, import all the bad 'uns and you go the same way, like the UK is doing. etc etc ad infinitum obvious even to a blind man. I was down in London this week and practically anybody who serves you in food jobs etc or any low paid service industry is an EC (former Eastern bloc) or third country worker. The overwhelming majority are here grafting. To call them all 'bad uns' is laughable and based on nowt more than the Daily Mail's fabrication of the truth. A smart lad like you should get yourself out there and see it for yourself rather than being spoon fed what to think by the media. There are some 'bad uns' but broadly speaking as a percentage base they'll mirror UK indigenous 'bad uns'. Any non-British national (individually) in breach of the law should be considered for deportation. That's a perfectly fair and proportionate position to take and I don't think anyone would disagree, but your starting point generalisation (above) is just racism at the end of the day whichever way you dress it up. hoho. I don't read the Daily Mail, as you stalk me so much you should have read me posting this many times. I've seen enough of the world sonny, thank you. Save your namby pamby liberalism for someone else. At the end of the day, screaming "racist" at people who can see the direction the country is going and are concerned about it, is the act of a laughable leftie tosspot who sits in an ivory tower, brainwashed and a blind fool. I don't know where you think you are a smart lad, because for me you're just a complete idiot with an ego problem who can't even admit when they are wrong. Fat bastards like me live out of Subways, Burger King's and Costa Coffee's when I'm away working in London. Like mancmag says you go in these shops in London and they're running round like they're on speed, the noise is incredible. The nearest Subway to my work. 7 people in a line, one fucking about doing fuck all looking like a manager, one cutting the bread, one putting the meat on, one putting your salad on, one putting the mayonaise on, one beside the oven, two at the till, one of them fucking about with the water and crisps. All in a line like battery hens. Was the same people every day, two Indians I'd guess, two Somali's maybe, two Poles one of them fit as fuck, and maybe a Turk, and all of them were like battery hens grafting like fuck. That type of immigrant is what we need, grafting like fuck for £7 an hour doing jobs clearly white people don't want to do in the City, you can't slag them or fault them for that, and generalise that they're all cunts. and the type of immigrant we don't want is what Stevie ? At the end of the day, the daft arsehole says I haven't been anywhere, but I bet I've seen a lot more of the world than he has. He simply can't admit when he says something wrong, which is why he clings to me in the way he does. Laughable and pathetic. Anyway, I'm trying to stick to what I said to trophyshy so don't want to go OTT about this just now. The type of immigrant I don't want is the kind that wants to completely alienate themselves from British society. You can't expect immigrants who come here to integrate straight away though. Muslims in the East End are examples of bad immigrants not all, but many happy to stay in their own groups preach that this should be a muslim state, support terrorism etc... they're all fuckin wronguns, but that is less than 50% of them, and they are the worst kind in my view. In London though which is probably the hardest place to integrate yourself with it being such an international hub, you see immigrants who can hardly speak a word of English walking the streets in Arsenal tops, 99% of them aren't enemies of the state and do jobs indigenous British people don't want to do. With 2.5m on the dole, it's the wanky governments responsibility to shut the door and not the immigrants themselves who come here to make a better life for themselves. At the end of the day, blood stock wise I'm largely an immigrant, there was fuck all in Ireland apart from horses and tatties, the tatties fucked up so 1.5m had to leave to survive and better themselves. I generally agree with that. What a shame wankers have to spout off about the Daily Mail simply for applying such common sense rather than closing their eyes to what is an increasing social and economic problem ie an over populated country and all the financial impacts it brings. Is it overpopulated though? The south is overpopulated. Liverpool had 1m people 80 years ago, there's 500,000 now, even the toon's population is down. We're pretty self sufficient as a country too.

Woooman ya nice sweet fantastique, Big ship on de ocean like de Titanique, Woooman ya nice sweet fantastique, Big ship on de ocean like de Titanique, HOO MAN, I like ta move it, I like ta move it, I like ta move it, I like ta move it, I like ta move it, I like ta move it, ya like ta MOVE IT.

FFS I'll pipe down now well done scouse fuck it.

Poquelins pissed this, got loads in the tank.

This makes the Melbourne Cup look like two donkeys plodding on Whitley Bay beach by the way.

Oh that fills me with confidence! Didn't you say goodbye and fuck off last week If that doesn't win am leaving this.....

Pish

This is a stick, and you've got the wrong end of it.

why? You'd get to enjoy Jamie Lee Curtis's tits Wacky reckons the best ever, I'd have to say Maria Whittaker personally, not noo like. Then.

Different culture mate. While the Japanese are currently facing hell on earth, here in Australia a 101 year old lady has her watch and shopping money stolen by a pair of middle aged men who obviously preyed on her and waited for an opportune time to nail her. A 95 year old blind woman gets bashed and robbed and an 80 year old bloke coming home from watching the movies gets pummeled and is left lying on the middle of the road. On the weekend a few coppers get blood spat in their face for trying to break up a fight. I've always said Australia and particularly America are our naughty kids who have turned in to right wronguns. unfortunately, import all the bad 'uns and you go the same way, like the UK is doing. etc etc ad infinitum obvious even to a blind man. I was down in London this week and practically anybody who serves you in food jobs etc or any low paid service industry is an EC (former Eastern bloc) or third country worker. The overwhelming majority are here grafting. To call them all 'bad uns' is laughable and based on nowt more than the Daily Mail's fabrication of the truth. A smart lad like you should get yourself out there and see it for yourself rather than being spoon fed what to think by the media. There are some 'bad uns' but broadly speaking as a percentage base they'll mirror UK indigenous 'bad uns'. Any non-British national (individually) in breach of the law should be considered for deportation. That's a perfectly fair and proportionate position to take and I don't think anyone would disagree, but your starting point generalisation (above) is just racism at the end of the day whichever way you dress it up. hoho. I don't read the Daily Mail, as you stalk me so much you should have read me posting this many times. I've seen enough of the world sonny, thank you. Save your namby pamby liberalism for someone else. At the end of the day, screaming "racist" at people who can see the direction the country is going and are concerned about it, is the act of a laughable leftie tosspot who sits in an ivory tower, brainwashed and a blind fool. I don't know where you think you are a smart lad, because for me you're just a complete idiot with an ego problem who can't even admit when they are wrong. Fat bastards like me live out of Subways, Burger King's and Costa Coffee's when I'm away working in London. Like mancmag says you go in these shops in London and they're running round like they're on speed, the noise is incredible. The nearest Subway to my work. 7 people in a line, one fucking about doing fuck all looking like a manager, one cutting the bread, one putting the meat on, one putting your salad on, one putting the mayonaise on, one beside the oven, two at the till, one of them fucking about with the water and crisps. All in a line like battery hens. Was the same people every day, two Indians I'd guess, two Somali's maybe, two Poles one of them fit as fuck, and maybe a Turk, and all of them were like battery hens grafting like fuck. That type of immigrant is what we need, grafting like fuck for £7 an hour doing jobs clearly white people don't want to do in the City, you can't slag them or fault them for that, and generalise that they're all cunts. and the type of immigrant we don't want is what Stevie ? At the end of the day, the daft arsehole says I haven't been anywhere, but I bet I've seen a lot more of the world than he has. He simply can't admit when he says something wrong, which is why he clings to me in the way he does. Laughable and pathetic. Anyway, I'm trying to stick to what I said to trophyshy so don't want to go OTT about this just now. The type of immigrant I don't want is the kind that wants to completely alienate themselves from British society. You can't expect immigrants who come here to integrate straight away though. Muslims in the East End are examples of bad immigrants not all, but many happy to stay in their own groups preach that this should be a muslim state, support terrorism etc... they're all fuckin wronguns, but that is less than 50% of them, and they are the worst kind in my view. In London though which is probably the hardest place to integrate yourself with it being such an international hub, you see immigrants who can hardly speak a word of English walking the streets in Arsenal tops, 99% of them aren't enemies of the state and do jobs indigenous British people don't want to do. With 2.5m on the dole, it's the wanky governments responsibility to shut the door and not the immigrants themselves who come here to make a better life for themselves. At the end of the day, blood stock wise I'm largely an immigrant, there was fuck all in Ireland apart from horses and tatties, the tatties fucked up so 1.5m had to leave to survive and better themselves.

Good lass. It's great when you've been a bit over weight and you get cheek bones and profile back and everything. Especially for a lass, does wonders for your confidence.

Sorry to say Mr Gardiner is running like a cunt here Alex. There ye are - pulled up, the rest should all run well.

Not many racing fans here, fair enough some of you pop along to meetings now and then, but I love Cheltenham, been in profit the last two days, it's the WC Finals of horse racing. Back all of these each way and you should be on top today. 1.30 Mr Gardner 2.05 Rivage D"or 2.40 Poquelin 3.20 Grands Crus (Claire "The Body" Balding tips Big Bucks - put your mortgage on it according to her but its nee price) 4.00 Beautiful Sound 4.40 Saddlers Storm 5.15 Super Collider

I had to double-take when they pointed out that the Braga match was the first that Dalglish has managed in charge of Liverpool. Easy to forget that for the entire period he was in charge of them last time coincided with the European ban for English clubs. The other startling stat is that there's only one club that Dalglish has managed in the European Cup / Champions League. Us. what pisses me off more than anything about Dalglish is that when he took charge of Liverpool the first time, he was taking over an already good/great side and made it more vibrant and more successful, but did the exact opposite with us. They could have won the European Cup again with that team they had after the Heysel disaster if not for the ban. So could Everton, that's part of what soured "friendly derby". In fact Everton could've dominated till Milan came up in 89 onwards. Steaua, PSV and Porto were not as good as Everton.

Different culture mate. While the Japanese are currently facing hell on earth, here in Australia a 101 year old lady has her watch and shopping money stolen by a pair of middle aged men who obviously preyed on her and waited for an opportune time to nail her. A 95 year old blind woman gets bashed and robbed and an 80 year old bloke coming home from watching the movies gets pummeled and is left lying on the middle of the road. On the weekend a few coppers get blood spat in their face for trying to break up a fight. I've always said Australia and particularly America are our naughty kids who have turned in to right wronguns. unfortunately, import all the bad 'uns and you go the same way, like the UK is doing. etc etc ad infinitum obvious even to a blind man. I was down in London this week and practically anybody who serves you in food jobs etc or any low paid service industry is an EC (former Eastern bloc) or third country worker. The overwhelming majority are here grafting. To call them all 'bad uns' is laughable and based on nowt more than the Daily Mail's fabrication of the truth. A smart lad like you should get yourself out there and see it for yourself rather than being spoon fed what to think by the media. There are some 'bad uns' but broadly speaking as a percentage base they'll mirror UK indigenous 'bad uns'. Any non-British national (individually) in breach of the law should be considered for deportation. That's a perfectly fair and proportionate position to take and I don't think anyone would disagree, but your starting point generalisation (above) is just racism at the end of the day whichever way you dress it up. hoho. I don't read the Daily Mail, as you stalk me so much you should have read me posting this many times. I've seen enough of the world sonny, thank you. Save your namby pamby liberalism for someone else. At the end of the day, screaming "racist" at people who can see the direction the country is going and are concerned about it, is the act of a laughable leftie tosspot who sits in an ivory tower, brainwashed and a blind fool. I don't know where you think you are a smart lad, because for me you're just a complete idiot with an ego problem who can't even admit when they are wrong. Fat bastards like me live out of Subways, Burger King's and Costa Coffee's when I'm away working in London. Like mancmag says you go in these shops in London and they're running round like they're on speed, the noise is incredible. The nearest Subway to my work. 7 people in a line, one fucking about doing fuck all looking like a manager, one cutting the bread, one putting the meat on, one putting your salad on, one putting the mayonaise on, one beside the oven, two at the till, one of them fucking about with the water and crisps. All in a line like battery hens. Was the same people every day, two Indians I'd guess, two Somali's maybe, two Poles one of them fit as fuck, and maybe a Turk, and all of them were like battery hens grafting like fuck. That type of immigrant is what we need, grafting like fuck for £7 an hour doing jobs clearly white people don't want to do in the City, you can't slag them or fault them for that, and generalise that they're all cunts.

The bloke who used to do the red indian style war cries? Fucking hell I remember him. Weird seeing all the half toon / half brazil bobble hats again too. Didn't they used to do half toon / half rangers and half toon / half celtic ones too? He was mint. He seemed to fuck off after the relegation season. My bobble hat was 3/4 toon 1/4 Brazil. Aye me mate had toon/celtic, you could get Aberdeen Toon ones too iirc.

What age are you like LTB, I thought you were 30, you'd have been 7 then cos I was 10. Mint memory

Been speaking to Clare Balding today, she said look if I was putting my mortgage on anything at Cheltenham it would be Big Bucks today. It's only evens like, just passing the message on straight from the horses mouth as it were.

Lush innit, was nearly bubbling when first saw it ! . . Only just got onto this thread tonight . . Sombreros at top of cornrer haha. Can y remember Mira kicking Beasant at FT in the cup replay (night time game) . Was a sneaky kck from behind im sure . Beasant livid n chased him up the pitch. Was at Ggate and Mira headed off zig-zaggin towards the East Stand/Leases corner (!?) his little legs givin it 6 nowt and Bsant all arms aloft n gloves like a Wookie, was fuckin hilarious. Aye he kicked him up the arse, he did it to a few different people that season. Best memory of that season was when we beat West Ham 2-1 last game, Gazza's last ever turn oot for the toon. Some bloke kicked the ball back on from the benches near the corner. He had one of them 80's slip on shoes on and it flew right on to the pitch, and just his luck landed right beside Gazza. He picked it up, smelled it and fell down on the floor from the fumes. The full Gallowgate was piss themselves. In fact I loved that season, we come 8th, but we got off to a shit start we could've been top 4 or 5 with a better start.

To be fair he wasn't fully fit and had been pure pish in the previous 18 months. Not that I'm putting a positive slant on it for Kinnear, just I remember how many people on here were saying what a shite footballer he was. I remember 4 or 5 years ago, I said on N-O that Nolan finishing wise and in other aspects of his game, was TECHNICALLY excellent, many mugs like Baggio tried to ridicule and laugh at that, but who's been right all along? There's so many people who watch football who can't translate what they're seeing in to correct opinions or worthwhile views, the Nolan one held on N-O in 2006 typifies this. Mass media driven monkeys.

It would blow the machine up.

Rob Lee is a proper cockney by definition and he's one of the most popular figures in the clubs history, same with Les although from Hammersmith, he is to a dense geordie a "cockney", funny that they are popular, maybe it has something to do with the fact they were fucking great and never moaned?

I tried the new version of Twitter, and does it fuck work, I revert to the old one and there's gaps in that like Peter says.