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I wont just switch off. Not sure if Jade realised the demon she would leave behind, but I fear the "circus" will follow her kids for some time. Obscurity may now be the wish of the family, but I think the inertia could be slow.

So, lets get this right, we get relegated and then not have the manager work (on transfers) until the start of the next season? You know, that sounds exactly like the sort of thing we'd do. No wink.

RIP. I understand the reason she has publically done what she did, to give her kids a financial cushion. I hope the trust I assume she has left it in make all this worth while and they get a good education and that we dont see them as we see the kids of some "famous" people. I do feel sorry for her kids, and family for that matter. To loose one so young is never easy. I just didn't agree with all the media circuis surrounding it.

Aye, every fucking cloud eh....

Complete tool aye. I used to be all for freedom of speech, but now I think people just take the piss and think common sense should be used.

False breasts, spot them a mile off ......

Was in Carlisle today and stopped at the BP on the A69 coming back. Noticed the latest OK magazine. On the front "Jade Goody Memorabilia Issue" and underneath Jade Goody 1981 - 2009. Two things:- a) WTF? b ) She hasn't passed away has she? in fact, here :

While I appreciate what he did for us and why he left I hope he wins fuck all. Nailed on to win the Uefa Cup now I've said that like.

The crusades were all about religion - Europe didn't care what the Muslims were doing (see invasion of Spain) until they invaded the "Holy land" - it then became a christian duty based on Papal edict to save it from infidels. Again I'd question "echoed by the bible" - certainy the OT is an awful document morally and while JC did preach some good stuff he also preached a lot of nastiness - particulary the bits about abandoning family to follow him and how the only way to heaven was through him - probably the most offensive notion to me (ie that being good is useless without worship). I'd also point out the correlation between intensity of faith and crime rates based on states in the US - it actually has more to do with poverty but it does show that religion doesn't stop people from being sinful. Discussion aside, I just chuckled at the fact you refer to him as JC The bible is far far from perfect (or even a good read!), it was written by men (not a God) unlike the Koran (iirc). The old testament does my head in, its not of course meant to be taken literally. I'd say more metophorically. Then again, much of it is. On saying its ok to do wrong so long as you say sorry to God, forgiveness is meant to actually be in line with reconciliation. Not just with God, but with the other person involved. Is that always a bad thing? (not always a good thing either like). fuck me I'm trying to play devils advocate and its not that easy. I'd have just as much problem trying to support the full theory of Darwin as well. I find nature as whole mind blowingly amazing and simply cannot believe we have a true understanding of any of it (we once thought the world was flat, who knows what will change our views tomorrow).

Fuck me thats fantastic! Even got my last three houses is

It depends - the nostalgia for eras like the 50s forget the homophobia, racism and sexual hypocrisy which were rife - in those areas I think today's society is a lot more moral. You could also argue for the increase in volunteer work and other charitable giving as modern life gives more free time/disposable income. I've also seen figures that show more murders and violent crimes a hundred years ago than now - maybe the statistic collection is suspect but the idea of some utopia at some point in the past is an exaggeration. Never been a utopian society like. 50's wern't great at all, in fact I think you could go as far as to say every decade has the same number of problems, just different kinds. I'd say there was more stabbing and shooting now, or is it that I just read about more due to the media? Id say there was more adultry and divorces now, or is it that more women will now stand up for themselves rather than turning a blind eye? Whatever, this is derailing the OP and it a neverending discussion. I do though think in general, the majority of people are pretty selfish rather than selfless and have a lack of respect for most others. Religion aside completely. I also agree that the Pope (current) does more harm than good and seems very ill advised. I do think that the church has its place though.

Point me to the persentage of the bible which advocates anything decent which isn't contradicted totally elsewhere Traditional "christian" values are just the condensation of the pervading morality of any civilised society imo. Agreed. But we have a prevailing immoral society.

That implies society was in some way better when the influence of the church was greater in the UK. I think that's almost as big a fallacy as central tenets of Christian faith. Hmm, tricky one. There are a few problems, go backl to the crusades and religion was used to expand the empire. That wasn't the religions fault but that of the people up top. More recent times I would say society has been better but far far from perfect. Never has or will be. What I am saying is that society os fucked now. I am saying more people would do well to at least try to live a moral life as echoed by the bible.

It is correct like that our current church isnt so much in decline, but is being replaced. Well, not replaced but the Evangelical types (largely African) are growing in popularity and spreading through Europe. On the comment, I'd agree its better they say nothing However, I don't mind sticking my neck out and saying those that think the Church is generally old hat and needs to be binned are totally in the wrong. Society, generally, is fucked. If more people took heed of the teachings in the Bible we might stand half a chance. I'm not saying they should even believe in a God etc but at least take note of the overall messages. The main being imo a total lack of respect for other people at the moment, the one thing the church in large promotes (love/respect for others etc). The Church (any) is ran by people who by their very nature of fucking stupid at times

These conspiracy theories do amuse me like everytime a player gets to a certain number of games and then OMG!!1 he missed a game!

Wife walks into the bedroom and her husband is in bed reading. She strips off naked and asks her husband seductively "What do you prefer? My attractive face or my beautiful body?" Man looks up at his wife and thinks for a moment "Your sense of humour" he replies as going back to his book.

Sure has. Took me a quick email to realise who had made such a generous donation but yes, the bet was paid up in full and he topped it up with a nice little sum as well. All very much appreciated. Not only that, but it tipped me over my target figure of £500.

Doesnt matter the cup/mug but I do insist on milk first in coffee or water first in tea.

We do have goal difference in our favour as well. Yes, straws firmly clutched.

I hate this...

Link up with Nobby on the right and Dyer CM was brilliant at times. Nobby still one of the best crossers of the ball I've seen. Wasn't the fastest but knew how to use the ball. Him and Robert often had some of the highest assists in the league iirc. Pretty useful when we had Shearer on the other end of them. Then of course Bellamy up front being his usual irritating self. Also, we had Speed then in the centre. We would have him here now as he was then ahead of Butt etc eh.

Hardly at all. Few quid at the match and once a year at the races.

which are? No, they've been around for ages.

Fucking hell, any comment like that is from someone who either a) knows fuck all about BSA's time here or B ) is a bit of a twat Maybe a bit of both. Just look at the players he brought in? Viduka, Barton, Geremi, Smith & Faye are nearly all about his style of football. Tough players who will grind games out. He did though make some decent signings. Well, two imo. Beye I think we'd all agree and I actually thought Faye was canny and could still have done a job here. The next problem was him being given the shove (MA's reasons being poor results and a poor football style to bring in his own choice in KK). Then we had Sams style of players trying to play KK's style of game. Didnt really work until we changed to a 433 and after a very hard start we started to see better football and better results.