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I cant follow all this sectarian shite. Were the oompah-loompahs protestants or something?

You bring up a really interesting point, when society can keep someone alive on life support with little chance of recovery, after a short period of time you stop. The reasons are moral; to continue spending the money, denies that money elsewhere and therefore denies effective treatment elsewhere. When it comes to the legal system though, we pursue 'justice' without accounting for the cost. Legal cases can cost millions to secure and society permits this pursuit irrespective of cost. Its as though justice doesnt have a price, yet life itself does (as 'revealed' by the resources society allocates to these things). The next question is why should one case of justice receive more attention and money than another? Thats what has been under scrutiny i guess but i've tried to address that already. In the end your right though, the case is cold and there is little or no chance that her abducters will ever be found. Pragmatically speaking, its a waste of time if they are never caught. Who knows though, someone who knows something may one day come forward.

Chez? If you anything today watch this clip fuckin creased me. pmsl. http://www.twitvid.com/2FYER Sums West Ham up everything about it. Oi!! I said he was sacked long before anyone on here ringo. 1 point each. Stevie predicting West Ham's relegation should be weighted higher than saying Avram will get the sack. We all die one day Parky.

I dont think there any examples of a British child abducted abroad in the last 5 years. There may be some at home in the UK but then again, not sure. Its not exactly a common occurence and hence should be treated that way. That woman who bought the pizza was an adult and the attention to her murder was enormous and rightly so. I am of the opinion that its not just easy to criticise, its immoral too. (only because i believe her to have been abducted, if thats not true then it all changes of course). Imo, the investment of resources into this crime are justified if you know for sure she was abducted as then you know she was abducted for sex. Society should stop at nothing to bring the perpetrators of such action to justice, no matter how society arrives at that endpoint (via parents organising global media campaigns or whatever).

To make that judgement you need to say there are examples where less attention was given. I know there were a few from the 70s and 80s in the press when it happened but i would say you cant make that judgement on the level of attention unless you produce an example of an abducted British 3-5 year old in the last 5 years who received less. Does anyone have one?

Ironing board spotted on Mars.

Tactically astute yesterday, disciplined performance.

How many cases of British 3 to 5 year olds being abducted by suspected paedophile rings have there been in the last 5 years? Unless you have that statisitic at your fingertips, you're a bit of a moral cunt if you negatively judge the effort / resources invested in this case. You cant just assume that figure. Of course, if there are hundreds of examples then you'd be right to wonder. Just my reading of the morality of this issue. All my opinion of course. It might be that there are hundreds, i doubt it and i also doubt anyone has that statistic available to them or looked to it when forming their opinion. I sympathise with the McCanns and recognise they probably got proportionally more attention than others might have done. However, if it was my daughter, i reckon i could and would do the same too though. If i was then confronted by someone like Rob, i'd probably stab him in the eye with a blunt object.

I agree with that post CT, Pardew got us that point yesterday.

Did one good thing, looked off the pace and naive for the most part. Ridiculous to judge him but Fergie definitely looks a player. Lua Lua looks like a Brighton player.

Ferguson > Lua Lua.

It is much dirtier politics than in the UK. The Clearstream scandal was ridiculous, then there was the one with the heiress of L'Oreal, the president and brown envelopes. The take on events here is that trying to rape some bird in a hotel then legging it is not the sort of thing you'd expect from one of the world's most powerful and intelligent men. UMP plot according to the left.

Yesterday was good management not good foundations. Getting the player's mindset right before a daunting game and tweaking the side to fit Fergie, Enrique and Jonas was good judgement. Also, our pressing was fantastic and we were tactically quite fluid in the first half with Lovenkrands and Shola swapping the deeper role in midfield. Pardew did very well yesterday, its a one off type performance taking advantage of the psychological state of Chelsea and clearly providing huge motivation to players looking to prove a point and fight for a place in the team / squad. Well done Rapey, not well done fatty.

Jonas up to with ameobi Should be interesting.

Yes but no business should be setting it's operating budget in line with one-off / uncertain revenue streams. Unless it's used to bridge a period over which operating revenues are forecast to rise. Ticket prices have been frozen and the recession has dampened marketing spends, so the next sky deal may not increase either.

Super strike from Toure. Stoke not in it at all which surprises me slightly.

You spend £5m on a player and you have bought an asset which has value for accounting and tax purposes. So you need to account for the depreciation of the value of the asset over the contract and ensure that you don't double count the value of the asset for tax purposes in subsequent years. Wages are not related to transfer fee revenues anyway, it's about operating costs, the link was made by Pardew as he knows he wont get to spend £35m net.

The net spend should be £35m as receiving that amount of money could not have been in the business plan (in the financial administration sense). To spend all of it does mean that any losses carried over from last year will still be incurred. I can't see us making a loss this year though. If I was in charge then I wouldn't spend it all either given the circumstances. £25m net would be a massive amount on any club's books apart from at city and chelsea. I doubt we will break £20m net, possibly as little as £10m. If he sells Enrique then he'll be potentially £50m up since January, Carroll's add ons covering Ben Arfa's fee. If you think Tiote is off too then you're talking £70m up. This ridiculous scenario but mainly the decision not to play him at Chelsea, convinces me Tiote will be here at the start of next season. The risks involved in spending what you would have to do in that situation and replacing so many players is surely too risky for even these muppets.

Define "heavy metal from the 80s onwards" please Chez? Music falling into the category 'heavy metal' from the around 1980 onwards The timing bit is not specific, just a vague reference to the decade and bands that were formed during or after. 70s heavy rock bands are therefore excluded from the generalisation. There might be an odd exception you could point me towards but certainly nothing well known/popular that i heard ever did anything for me other than desperate boredom.

Id rather chew my own arm off than go to a def leppard gig. Soz TR but that sort of music makes me nauseous. In fact I have a problem with heavy metal from the 80s onwards.

So why risk it when its so important for us to get off to a strong start next season? Because we have no idea if he'll be here next season, nor if we will bring in another midfielder to cover this position which we really need to do anyway. Also it may mean a point rather than none. Am sure Pardew will think of leaving him out but I'd prefer us to try and finish above the mackems.

I'd play Tiote anyway, he's got to be able to go into a game that our lives don't depend on and not pick up a yellow.

I'm drinking champagne, eating prawns and smoking tack.

The bad news is that according to Happy Face that's even worse than missing a Talking Heads gig. The good news is that he's talking bollocks.