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Says Patrick Swayze.

Yes, and I think you may have succeeded. So far I've been a Dame, had a prisoner number and am now The President of the Lenny Henry Fan Club. "Not quite a rags to riches story going on here" thinks Postie. I'm surprised the postman can read his writing tbh. It's like a spider got very drunk, fell into an ink well and staggered across the paper before dying in a heap. Surprised he hasnt cut words out of newspapers tbh.

Yes, and I think you may have succeeded. So far I've been a Dame, had a prisoner number and am now The President of the Lenny Henry Fan Club. "Not quite a rags to riches story going on here" thinks Postie.

Who says he doesnt already.

Serves them right for playing in poo coloured strips tbh.

How long is it since we gave anyone a real thrashing? Pompy 3-0? West Brom 3-0 twice last year... Not many like. I'm not talking threes and fours. We used to put five, six or seven past sides regularly (well, a couple of times a season). Don't think we've had one of those since before Sourmess. Breda 5-0, though we've had a few 4s since then, Olympiakos, Mallorca. Eto'o played that night and Taylor had one of his first games. Top few days away. This dutch side sound like they are going to be a handful. Not the easiest of draws but finally it becomes a decent competition.

Looks like a lager pump.

Parky likes a 25 page introduction just to set the scene and whet the appetite.

It reinforces some of my conclusions about Parky tbf. I think Parkie is playing quite a good devils advocate role myself. He is well practised at it tbf.

It reinforces some of my conclusions about Parky tbf. Now now, be nice to Parky you did start this thread as FAO Parky and the 9/11 research site is one of the better ones. The WT7 stuff on there is very 'thought-provoking'.

Not necessarily not all missiles leave debris. There are some compound missiles which completely burn up. What's a compound missile? A missile made not of metal but a carbon compound. Laser guided can enter throu a window or ventilation shaft. Can carry a lot of explosive. Or a thermite charge. What is it propelled by? Rocket motors have large metal parts. Cruise missiles have turbine blades. Laser guidance implies non carbon elements that would survive a crash. Why would it need a thermite charge? A large amount of explosive leaves a chemical trace, and a fireball different to the one seen on the video stills in this thread. Not all missiles ar propelled by rockets. Laser guided doesnt always mean an on board laser. And can you give proof to the different effect to the one seen on the video? As with Parky earlier, I think the onus is on you to provide the proof for the crackpot theories here. Given the fact that they lied about WMD and used the event as a pre-text for the 'War on Terror' and denouncing the 'axis of evil' i would contest its up to the US government to open all of its files in this case and make all relevant information public, rather than saying that anyone with a very justifiable reason to be cynical or suspicious of them should prove why. Completely the other way round - i would go further, its our duty to keep asking the questions and theirs to keep providing the evidence.

I'm not defending the official story vigourously, I'm merely providing answers to the apparent questions you have about the story, and posing reasonable questions about the events you allude happened instead, in the absence of any positive evidence for it. This is what any rational person does when confronted with questions about their rational beliefs. I for don't believe the story because the White House told me, I believe it because it makes sense in the absence of any credible alternatives, and fits with my normal understaing of physics, logic, reason and humanity. The questions I have about your alternative versions of events are just as valid as yours about the official story, but for some reason you imply one set of questions carries more weight because they go against the 'official story' You propose events as having but one obvious cause, continually using the absence of something as proof, without any direct evidence. The CIA didn't stop the terrorists so they must have known about them, rather than they just didn't know about them. The US attacked Iraq after the Al-Qaeda attacks so they must have been complicit in the attacks, rather than Bush seeing an fortuitous opportunity for some unfinished business. There is no evidence of a plane (which there is) so there must not have been a plane. Doubt is not proof. Ok one last time. 1 You have failed to pick up on whether i agree with the facts surrounding the main events. 2, Questioning whether these buildings were rigged in case of an attack and finding it a plausible possibility has nothing to do with the attacks, others may try to link it, I havent. WT7 remains a mystery though. 3, The position i have taken is that there is one crucial debate; did the US know an attack of some sorts was imminent and was there a failure of intelligence or was it allowed to happen? There is no proof that either is the case. You, in the absence of any other evidence want to believe the US. I just find the whole thing too much of a coincidence and have learned in the last 3-4 years that the people responsible for US foreign policy are deceitful, murderous cunts, whose religious views put them in the 'clinically insane' bracket. Forgive me my cynicism.

I need a holiday.

No bother about the DVD like Alex mate. Porn ring?

Kelly was DEFINITELY murdered, i dont care what any of you say

I thought the draw was already pre-ordained as it were?

How exactly did they make these crystal clear calls from mobiles on the plane, when recently the same airline felt the need to install new systems to make this possible? I notice you failed to respond to this question directed at you earlier. Shit, I've entered into this again Good it gets a bit lonely on the ledge. The Lone Wum-man? " Into position everyone ......Aaand 'Action!'"

Lens are a handy side.

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I've always fancied it tbh. The line-up usually looks top class. Worried it might be a bit 'corporate' though. Not as corporate as everywhere else tbh. The last time i was there (cant remember exactly when), saw some quality acts but the stand out moment was on the sunday in the small open tent next to the lake, sun was shining in, i was off me nappa and these two birds came on to DJ dresssed in PVC basques, stockings, high heels etc. In my 'mmfmmf' state of mind they were clearly the fittest birds on the planet at that time. Its nowt like Glastonbury, Leeds etc but the music is super-cool. Tom Middleton is always there, his new album is out - The Trip 2, first one was amazing. Including Helter Skelter? @ the fucking state I used to get in there This place? http://www.helter-skelter.co.uk/ I wouldnt know tbh.

Aye. I've got a thing about short black bobs (and i dont mean Shinton's long lost half brother either).

Did she have a short black Bob?

I've always fancied it tbh. The line-up usually looks top class. Worried it might be a bit 'corporate' though. Not as corporate as everywhere else tbh. The last time i was there (cant remember exactly when), saw some quality acts but the stand out moment was on the sunday in the small open tent next to the lake, sun was shining in, i was off me nappa and these two birds came on to DJ dresssed in PVC basques, stockings, high heels etc. In my 'mmfmmf' state of mind they were clearly the fittest birds on the planet at that time. Its nowt like Glastonbury, Leeds etc but the music is super-cool. Tom Middleton is always there, his new album is out - The Trip 2, first one was amazing.

".... and thats a wrap everyone "