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I think we'll get though to the next round now, which is more than i thought yesterday.

Apparently he went out with the mincing ballroom dancer from Hi-de-Hi.

I remember a story about a similar woman going to hospital and the drs finding the remote control to her TV under one of her breasts. Small result tbh.

By his own admission hes a fat lad.

A fork lift truck and a salt gritter?

Aye. I think most English people that have a brain prefer Germans to most people on continental Europe. You're not as cool as us but culturally we're more like each other than any other country. I subscribe to the general view that there are european countries with more or less affinity for each other. I work in a european team, i share an office with a frog, my boss is a kraut, we have a spanish lad here, 2 belgians etc. We look after 44 markets and i spend time with Scandanavians, Italians, Dutch, Poles, and Hungarians as well as the UK. Germans call us 'Island monkeys' and think that we are inbred and need to get off the island to sort our heads out. We are closest in the way we do business and they are much funnier than people think. I was on a tour of Berlin last year and all the nick-names for the buildings were hilarious. They love a drink too - Octoberfest last year was class. French think we're anglo-saxon scum who have no class or culture, the fact that they are obsessed by our music, football and royal family escape their inadequate froggy little heads. The Scandanavians all look longingly at the island and think 'what a waste' and fantasise about all the lovely design features they would install if they still owned it. The Italians love us, think the sun shines out of our well-tailored arses as they hate the germans, french and spanish so much we are their default favourites. The spaniards are too lazy to express an opinion tbh. Our histories and our language tie us closer to different backgrounds. The Poles have a deep respect for the english but the way they think is closer to Russian than anglo-saxon. Nihilistic to the man, Polish taxi drivers are suicidal.

So you do both then?

Hes a 'Feeder'!! There was a documentary on channel 4 ages ago called 'Fat women and their 'Feeders'' which was all about men feeding their BBWs up to enormous sizes for sexual pleasure. They had series of photos over periods of years, plotting the enlargment of their lady. The husbands a porv tbh.

Aye two words. Silvio Berlusconi. 1986 - 2004. Great post though stevie.

McVicar is the one with Roger Daltry in it. Was in Durham nick iirc.

I've lost quite a few friends to Australia, which is why i resent the place/could well end up living there. Theres a group of mates from Whitley/Shields that grew as we grew up. 2 of us met when we were 4 so thats 29 years as mates. The home contingent are now spread all over, some in Edinburgh, couple in the north east, couple in London, 1 in france and 1 in Spain. We meet altogether every christmas at best now. The last time i saw them was like we'd never spent any time apart though. As i've moved around a lot i've got friends all over. My best mate in france is mexican.

I've never tried fugu (puffer fish). Mind you, i dont think i would either as it can lead to tetrodotoxin poisoning which kills about 50 japanese a year.

Revolver was definitley shite.

Why mention it in here then numbnuts? The answer's 42 btw. But what's the question? The mystery of life, the universe and everything iirc.

Darius was better.

That sign in the Trent But that's basically true, people have an innate sense of right and wrong which has diddly squat to do with religion. There are many theories on why humans have evolved to be altruistic, and it's not unique to us - there are examples in other animals too. Religion might have initially codified it but now it is entrenched in secular law do we really need religion? Why is i that the most secular nations are the most "civilised"? Why is it that the most religious states in America tend to have the worst crime levels? NJS has argued this point successfully many times as I'm sure you are aware. Hang on!!!! If people have an 'innate sense of right and wrong' then where the fuck did that come from then? There a morality gene that requires no socialisation or parenting that would kick in to create a moral code in a for want of a better phrase 'social vaccuum'? Surely your innate sense of right and wrong is the strongest argument for god so far in this thread? No, it's a product of altruism resulting from evolution and is seen in many animals and birds. It has been reinforced since we became self-aware and capable of philosophy. It doesn't take a genius to work out that the sign on the Trent will benefit us all. Alex put it very succinctly there tbf. I have no belief whatsoever in God, but I have a strong belief that it is wrong to harm another person. How do you account for that? Upbringing might account for some of it but why should atheists, secularists or humanitarians provide worse upbringings for their children than theists? Sure altruism is useful for us and other species to further their survival but then again, killing is also sometimes in our best interest. It generally is more useful for carnivorous animals. The hardest part of this morality/god debate is the bit that you also understandably struggle with above in bold. The evolutionists say that these moral codes helped us survive as a species. However, if that is not always true then why act in a moral way? Just for the innate sense of goodness? Since good/bad is relative, how is good defined in an absolute sense so you know what it is? I dont think we'll crack this tbh. For the record i'm agnostic.

That sign in the Trent But that's basically true, people have an innate sense of right and wrong which has diddly squat to do with religion. There are many theories on why humans have evolved to be altruistic, and it's not unique to us - there are examples in other animals too. Religion might have initially codified it but now it is entrenched in secular law do we really need religion? Why is i that the most secular nations are the most "civilised"? Why is it that the most religious states in America tend to have the worst crime levels? NJS has argued this point successfully many times as I'm sure you are aware. Hang on!!!! If people have an 'innate sense of right and wrong' then where the fuck did that come from then? There a morality gene that requires no socialisation or parenting that would kick in to create a moral code in a, for want of a better phrase, 'social vaccuum'? Surely your innate sense of right and wrong is the strongest argument for god so far in this thread?

Interesting about high moral codes / standards and being an atheist. The legal system in the UK is to a large extent based on religious laws (our constituion was based on it years back). All of our current moral codes have their roots in religious laws. An individual who acts 'with high moral standards' in our current society (accepted by norms and generally held view) is basically using laws that have been codified into society by religion. Where does the atheist's high moral code come from? What are the main justifications for their rules?

Not so much a problem but would like a none tutors view on things like Malthus and competitive markets and Adam Smith and stuff. Malthus was a nut job who thought that everyone was so sex mad that the worlds economy would collapse due to over population. Smith is most famous for his 'invisible hand' which contrary to popular belief isnt having a sly wank but is the process via which markets deliver optimal resource allocation. Right wing economics owes a lot to The Wealth of Nations. His main idea was to characterise individuals motivation to act in a self-interested manner. Modern economics has been built around developing this notion of a self-interested consumer or producer into something more complex, recognising our inability to always know what is our 'self-interest'. To see where this idea has ended up you should read Steven Levitt's 'Freakonomics'. http://www.freakonomics.com/thebook.php Here he dissects human behaviour into basic incentive structures and explains some quite random phenomena. A good read for non-economists too.

No comment.

Not gone to Play Blaydon RFU with Rockcliff in 1987. I would have all the ligaments in my left knee still working. Every single one snapped.

I'd second that. Strippers in Rio's? The Olive Grove? Whats not to like? Thirded

Shelleys was in Stoke. Legendary night out.