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Initially I thought this was a stunt to avoid spending money in January. But, if this was the case, he'd have done it in January. Our next games are Liverpool, Birmingham (away), Man-city and Tottenham, so if the post about forecasting results is true - the timing interesting. None of this suggests it was well planned, but I guess what I'm trying to say it we have to wait to see which manager is brought in and who arrives in January. They wanted it done and dusted in October though, until the 5-1 and Arsenal results made it impossible. Assuming, for argument's sake, that's true, what a fucking stupid time to bring a manager in that would've been. Lets not get too hysterical though. Hughton was the caretaker who did well and was given a years contract to allow some sort of stability while fighting promotion. Since the start of the season they havent obviously liked what they've seen so when would you have sacked him?

Initially I thought this was a stunt to avoid spending money in January. But, if this was the case, he'd have done it in January. Our next games are Liverpool, Birmingham (away), Man-city and Tottenham, so if the post about forecasting results is true - the timing interesting. None of this suggests it was well planned, but I guess what I'm trying to say it we have to wait to see which manager is brought in and who arrives in January. They wanted it done and dusted in October though, until the 5-1 and Arsenal results made it impossible. So they've had a replacement planned for 6 weeks plus? What's the delay now? According to Stevie..... and hopefully the delay is just flight arrivals into Newcastle.

You're a good lad and all that Parky, but that's pish. The performance at Arsenal was one of the most committed I've seen off a toon team ever. That's only 3/4 weeks ago. And the performance against WBA was shocking and that was 3 days ago and the one agaist Bolton was a week ago, things were slipping and thats a fact Read Alex's post above. I did then I read the shit you posted What that it was 3/4 weeks ago we produced one of the most committed showings I've ever seen you stupid cunt? Well we did. The reasons our form suffered are obvious. No knob head, I know we played well against Arsenal and yes it was 4 weeks ago but barring the Chelsea game we ave been gash. 2 points from 15??? What if after the next 4 or 5 we were at the bottom, what would you do? watch re runs of the Arsenal game?? The squads been decimated by injuries and suspensions. Real Madrid lost one player last season and fell to pieces, Ronaldo. We've been losing two's three's and four's and we don't have the squad to cope, are you so incredibly dense you can't see that. It was ALWAYS going to happen predicted for months by people like, me, Alex, mancmag, Happy Face, virtually anyone with half a clue could see the inevitability of suspensions and injuries punishing us badly, THROUGH NO FAULT OF HUGHTON. Fuckin thick cunts on here, fuck off and support Brighton. What makes me laugh is the likes of CT were predicting Europe after a few games whereas we were saying we could well struggle. Now we're struggling a bit (as was bound to happen given the squad) these same people are now attempting to justify Hughton's dismissal. Clueless. Take a stab at Ashleys reasoning tbh but dont let that get in the way of your usual bollocks.

What does that prove in relation to the current situation? Your a funny one. It was relation to your suggestion that the team were playing for him..... As you are aware by leaving your original quote out

Initially I thought this was a stunt to avoid spending money in January. But, if this was the case, he'd have done it in January. Our next games are Liverpool, Birmingham (away), Man-city and Tottenham, so if the post about forecasting results is true - the timing interesting. None of this suggests it was well planned, but I guess what I'm trying to say it we have to wait to see which manager is brought in and who arrives in January. They wanted it done and dusted in October though, until the 5-1 and Arsenal results made it impossible.

Didnt say I had evidence or that it was the case, just throwing out a different and probably most likely reason for Yesterdays events. There has been a lot of talk of too much player involvement, we know Ashley wanteg to change things back in October. There are already lots of whispers starting to come out. You have even said your grannys cousin is responsible for Tiote and Ben Arfa and not Hughton. If they really didnt have any confidence in Chris because of what goes on behind the scenes, then they have to get rid and find someone they can get behind. All that being the case, I would rather this action was done now, rather than after the Jan window has closed. It may be easy for some to buy into the theory that this was done just because ashley wants to be a twat, but seems a bit far fetched to me. What happens next will make or break this decision. No one's really suggesting he did it just to be a twat. It's more people think Ashley is delusional if he thinks the club should be in a better league position with the squad we have. As for the bit in bold. Graham Carr was my Grandma's cousin and he is chief scout at the club. He did identify both of those players as potential targets which the club then followed up. That's what scouts do. But what if and its not really a big if....that its not for that reason and it is simply because he didnt think Hughton was good enough. What if it was the players picking the team What if there was no discipline behind the scenes What if they see no great tactician What if his team selection has virtually picked itself And it sounds like he's had very little involvement in team selection Take away alot of that and your left with a very good caretaker who was doing ok. If Ashley sees or hears all this, has no faith in Hughton and wants to push on, prior to the jan window, then he's made the right decision. For example, if Jol gets appointed this week and is given a decent budget for January then I and probably most Newcastle fans will look back on yesterday as a good decision. If its pardew...... Why would the players, almost to a man, come out in support of him and play for him like they have, if that was the case? Makes no sense to me. We'll see how this plays out but I don't have a lot of faith in Ashley to get it right. Even if someone like Jol or O'Neill comes in (and I'd be very pleased under the circumstances) I suspect Ashley will fuck that up too. Lets just revisit when it all started going so well, pre season after relegation. Statements like ..."us four players got together and decided to lay down the law and those who didnt agree could fuck off..... Nolan, Smith, Harper and Barton.

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Didnt say I had evidence or that it was the case, just throwing out a different and probably most likely reason for Yesterdays events. There has been a lot of talk of too much player involvement, we know Ashley wanteg to change things back in October. There are already lots of whispers starting to come out. You have even said your grannys cousin is responsible for Tiote and Ben Arfa and not Hughton. If they really didnt have any confidence in Chris because of what goes on behind the scenes, then they have to get rid and find someone they can get behind. All that being the case, I would rather this action was done now, rather than after the Jan window has closed. It may be easy for some to buy into the theory that this was done just because ashley wants to be a twat, but seems a bit far fetched to me. What happens next will make or break this decision. No one's really suggesting he did it just to be a twat. It's more people think Ashley is delusional if he thinks the club should be in a better league position with the squad we have. As for the bit in bold. Graham Carr was my Grandma's cousin and he is chief scout at the club. He did identify both of those players as potential targets which the club then followed up. That's what scouts do. But what if and its not really a big if....that its not for that reason and it is simply because he didnt think Hughton was good enough. What if it was the players picking the team What if there was no discipline behind the scenes What if they see no great tactician What if his team selection has virtually picked itself And it sounds like he's had very little involvement in team selection Take away alot of that and your left with a very good caretaker who was doing ok. If Ashley sees or hears all this, has no faith in Hughton and wants to push on, prior to the jan window, then he's made the right decision. For example, if Jol gets appointed this week and is given a decent budget for January then I and probably most Newcastle fans will look back on yesterday as a good decision. If its pardew......

This would be a distinct possibility under any manager considering who we're up against and that we're a newly promoted team. Only now, we'll be doing it under a manger the players don't know or care about. He was only able to purchase within the means that Ashley allowed him to spend ... so fuck all. What class of player did you expect him to be able to purchase? Why would he give the new manager any cash if he didn't the last? Well, prepare to be dissatisfied ... Why on earth would Jol or O'Neal come to us when they know that there'll be fuck all to spend. Think back to why O'Neal left Villa in the first place. Yes, he is ... and God help us, 'cause Ashley certainly won't. On paper, we have a worse squad than what we had when we went down. What we had in our favour was that the squad played as a team, with everyone playing for each other. And that was down to Hughton. \\ And now he's gone. How on Earth can anyone think that what Ashley did was correct? Grow a brain. I`m not saying it was right I`m saying he had a decision to make and he made it. Right or wrong only time will tell I wish people would stop making out Houghton is like Mourinho or Fergie. YES he steadied the ship and Yes he got us out of the fizzy pop league and Yes we have had some good results so far this season BUT we have also had some very poor ones too and he has taken 2 points from 15 against the likes of WBA,Blackburn,Fulham and Stoke and before people start banging on about how some of these are established teams and we are newly promoted etc,etc,etc which teams should we be expecting to take points off? Blackpool and WBA have both beaten us 2-0 and 3-1, Stoke turned us over and Fat Sams Blackburn won at SJP is this acceptable just cos we drew against Chelsea and beat Arsenal? You can fuck right off with all that common sense jiggery pokery.

Typical shit reply tbh At least you admit it. Alex and CT is one of the great rivalries of this board I haven't got one now since I signed peace accords with J69, Fish, Sima and Renton. What you need is a second user name to launch attacks, Guerilla style.

Dear me, nobody mentioned by the current regime.

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Didnt say I had evidence or that it was the case, just throwing out a different and probably most likely reason for Yesterdays events. There has been a lot of talk of too much player involvement, we know Ashley wanteg to change things back in October. There are already lots of whispers starting to come out. You have even said your grannys cousin is responsible for Tiote and Ben Arfa and not Hughton. If they really didnt have any confidence in Chris because of what goes on behind the scenes, then they have to get rid and find someone they can get behind. All that being the case, I would rather this action was done now, rather than after the Jan window has closed. It may be easy for some to buy into the theory that this was done just because ashley wants to be a twat, but seems a bit far fetched to me. What happens next will make or break this decision.

The way I see it they got rid of Keegan for not doing as he was told (signing players he hadn't seen) and they've got rid of Hughton for not doing as he's told (appointing Beardo number 2). Allegedly Beardsley didn't want the number 2 job as he thought Hughton wouldn't last long anyway so he'd be tarred with the same brush. I think you're right though in that neither toed the line so that is unltimately why they 'had' to go. They want a fucking utopian manager that lot. One that's cheap, will deliver them the title, do everything they say and turn ordinary, cheap players into world superstars still only paying them pittance whilst keeping them happy. Fucking hell man, they need to wake up. Or They know a lot more about whats going on behind the scenes than we do and realise that Chris is a great first team coach but nothing more. They may also realise that money does need to be spent in January to try and guarantee prem status. Add those two together and you get a wise decision which goes against our recent history of letting managers spend big, then sacking them. This all depends really on them having someone in mind to walk straight in. Fuck off with your contrary bollocks CT True like, very outlandish suggestions

Typical shit reply tbh

The way I see it they got rid of Keegan for not doing as he was told (signing players he hadn't seen) and they've got rid of Hughton for not doing as he's told (appointing Beardo number 2). Allegedly Beardsley didn't want the number 2 job as he thought Hughton wouldn't last long anyway so he'd be tarred with the same brush. I think you're right though in that neither toed the line so that is unltimately why they 'had' to go. They want a fucking utopian manager that lot. One that's cheap, will deliver them the title, do everything they say and turn ordinary, cheap players into world superstars still only paying them pittance whilst keeping them happy. Fucking hell man, they need to wake up. Or They know a lot more about whats going on behind the scenes than we do and realise that Chris is a great first team coach but nothing more. They may also realise that money does need to be spent in January to try and guarantee prem status. Add those two together and you get a wise decision which goes against our recent history of letting managers spend big, then sacking them. This all depends really on them having someone in mind to walk straight in.

next two hours on talk shite is basically ashley is a cunt for anyone who wants to sit and nod

The telly reason is a total load of bollocks, we've been on more than Man City and Tottenham. 500k per game, as if that makes a difference, someone like Jol would cost £2m more than Hughton a year anyway. Poor journalism from Bird who I know from years ago and is a really good lad. It chimes with what some people ITK have said elsewhere, especially the bit about him milking the applause. Cant see how the manager of a club has any bearing on whether there on sky other than the team is playing very good football (which we have at times this season). I have never thought to myself, I must watch such and suchs club game so that I can hear the post match comments from manager x

Posted last night man when the real men were still up

thats fucking tragic as is the whole thing in general... Just noticing your avatar aswell of old Beardo. Great player but lots of noises from lots of sources tonight alleging that he's a very political figure at St James and frequents Ashleys arse a little too often. Aye, my all time favorite player but he does sadly seem to be very much a yes man in the Ashley regime. Though at the same time, you don't keep your job at Newcastle for very long these days if you speak out of turn. Mine too.

thats fucking tragic as is the whole thing in general... Just noticing your avatar aswell of old Beardo. Great player but lots of noises from lots of sources tonight alleging that he's a very political figure at St James and frequents Ashleys arse a little too often. Something you and he have in common, then. Have you experienced inexplicable chin growth over the past twelve months? Are you Pedro? Are you Pedro? Are you Pedro in disguise? Just call it as it is, without all the drama.

thats fucking tragic as is the whole thing in general... Just noticing your avatar aswell of old Beardo. Great player but lots of noises from lots of sources tonight alleging that he's a very political figure at St James and frequents Ashleys arse a little too often.

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