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CT. You are on a hiding here mate, nobody likes to admit they are wrong, but it is going to take something pretty remarkable now for your well intentioned optimism to fufill itself. Seen it all before Leazes since the 70's.... If you support Newcastle without optimism, your fucked. What sort of optimism ? I always think we can win any one game as we approach that game, but long term setup and prospects of the club is entirely different. That good times will always follow bad....as after Gazza, Beardsley exit ....as after relegation..... as after Ashley

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CT. You are on a hiding here mate, nobody likes to admit they are wrong, but it is going to take something pretty remarkable now for your well intentioned optimism to fufill itself. Seen it all before Leazes since the 70's.... If you support Newcastle without optimism, your fucked.

On an Internet discussion forum Aye, I'm all for constructive debate, but anyone with the club at heart with half a clue would realise many of you are talking total: Yesterday was for slagging Ashley off and venting. Today is for discussing and speculating the whys and wherefores??. I can never understand why some grown up posters have a problem with that. Thats what keeps TV shows, radio phone ins, newspapers and yes internet forums going. Be a quick (and boring) thread if we just called him a cunt and left it at that.

Will people please stop posting in this thread. Each time I see it pop up I fear the worst.

Just a thought as well for Monkeys Fist. Must be up on a snowy roof somewhere gutted he's not on here. edit (Or that girly cider did him in)

Had the call off Jol

You're a good lad and all that Parky, but that's pish. The performance at Arsenal was one of the most committed I've seen off a toon team ever. That's only 3/4 weeks ago. And the performance against WBA was shocking and that was 3 days ago and the one agaist Bolton was a week ago, things were slipping and thats a fact Read Alex's post above. I did then I read the shit you posted What that it was 3/4 weeks ago we produced one of the most committed showings I've ever seen you stupid cunt? Well we did. The reasons our form suffered are obvious. No knob head, I know we played well against Arsenal and yes it was 4 weeks ago but barring the Chelsea game we ave been gash. 2 points from 15??? What if after the next 4 or 5 we were at the bottom, what would you do? watch re runs of the Arsenal game?? You still don't get it do you? Fuck me man, anyone can see we have a lack of bodies, a lack of quality bodies in the squad. So changing manager will fix that will it? Do you understand now or shall I draw a diagram for you with stick figures? Changing manager and giving money to spend will change things. I dont think Ashley had the confidence in Houghton to do that and stop making out our squad is shit cos it isnt, small yes but other teams have small squads too Monopoly money isn't worth anything in real life man. haha. Straight out of Newcastle Online. What a fuckwit. Try telling that to Sir Alex Ferguson for starters.....unbelievebly stupid. What did I say about your obsessive behaviour, have you forgotten? hypocrisy again Why do you come on here and disagree with my views without stating who you are on there ? Who's obsessed ? Why not stand by your views and put them on the table if you're so convinced you are right and I have been talking bollocks ? Waiting........ It's killing you isn't it? You wish you were a hacker right now so you could find out, eh? "Fuck finding out about the meaning of life, I just want to know who Ken is on NO!" omg. Back up your assertions that I was talking shite, repeat your comments and show how ? It doesn't matter who you are on there, do it on here instead. Go on, do it But you can't can you ? Now THAT is obsession..... I gave a reason in an earlier post, man. Go on look back. Frothing at the mouth, you are. I see, you're paying your occasional visit to Toontastic, won't repeat claims you've commented on elsewhere, and say I'm obsessed ? What are you worried about man And what claims were they? I think I've dropped a few hints here and there over time tbf, this is drawing out a bit, or is it? Ah, fuck it, you're still playing. ah, hints . You're playing bairns games Says everything. Debate what you disagree with me like an adult man. Do it in the ASM v Leazes thread though, so people can carry on with this one. Well done

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On an Internet discussion forum

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/8496...-boss-by-friday he'll probably want hughton as his assistant Which would have been a great team. May have even being touted yesterday

What does that prove in relation to the current situation? Your a funny one. It was relation to your suggestion that the team were playing for him..... As you are aware by leaving your original quote out Eh? I left the quote out to save space. What's your point? The team have clearly been playing for Hughton for a good while now. Explain then Alex? During the promotion winning season they all said how they had decided to play for each other, the group of four. When did that stop and change to playing for Hughton instead of themselves. Yes Im playing devils advocate but fuck me lets not all be so simplistic. You're saying 4 (just fucking FOUR) players decided to play for themselves and that's the key to last season's success? And I'm being simplistic Fuck me, were you at Hogwarts last season after the aldershot game when the famous gang of four took control? Only last week Hughton was still coming out denying the players wernt involved. Even by your standards you need a fucking The incredibly obvious point I was making is that even with four of the senior players getting together and taking a lead before the start of last season there has to be more to it than that. You're suggestion the players were playing for themselves displays a complete lack of understanding as to what actually makes a football team tick. If the players aren't respectful of the manager and applying his tactics there is absolutely no way you would get the level of performance and commitment from ALL the players that was shown both last season and for a lot of the games this season. Not sure how much more simple I can make that tbh. Your just being either very naive or dare I say contrary. Its on record that the four of them took control of the dressing room. Did the remaining players have more respect for Nolan, Harper, Smith and Barton or the latest caretaker (who incidentally was letting them get on with it). I think Nolan even went public at one point saying "yes Chris picks the team, but WE run the dressing room.As wins mounted up it would be a brave squad player who dared to not toe the line. Did he? Never heard that one like. Source? I think player power was important, especially initially, but you're attributing too much to it imo. Basically negating Hughton's impact. Especially since it's obvious that the players' respect for Hughton not only exists but has grown as they've gained more trust and so on in him and his methods. He was still having to deny it last week, over a year later. From the outside I liked Hughton and still wish he was here. However Im wise enough to know that just like a marriage, alot goes on behind closed doors that we dont know about. The bottom line is if we end up with a better manager, with time to assess the players before January and money to spend.....then I will be happy.

Martin Jol 'to be named Newcastle United manager by Friday' (Old Skool) http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/8496...-boss-by-friday

What does that prove in relation to the current situation? Your a funny one. It was relation to your suggestion that the team were playing for him..... As you are aware by leaving your original quote out Eh? I left the quote out to save space. What's your point? The team have clearly been playing for Hughton for a good while now. Explain then Alex? During the promotion winning season they all said how they had decided to play for each other, the group of four. When did that stop and change to playing for Hughton instead of themselves. Yes Im playing devils advocate but fuck me lets not all be so simplistic. You're saying 4 (just fucking FOUR) players decided to play for themselves and that's the key to last season's success? And I'm being simplistic Fuck me, were you at Hogwarts last season after the aldershot game when the famous gang of four took control? Only last week Hughton was still coming out denying the players wernt involved. Even by your standards you need a fucking The incredibly obvious point I was making is that even with four of the senior players getting together and taking a lead before the start of last season there has to be more to it than that. You're suggestion the players were playing for themselves displays a complete lack of understanding as to what actually makes a football team tick. If the players aren't respectful of the manager and applying his tactics there is absolutely no way you would get the level of performance and commitment from ALL the players that was shown both last season and for a lot of the games this season. Not sure how much more simple I can make that tbh. Your just being either very naive or dare I say contrary. Its on record that the four of them took control of the dressing room. Did the remaining players have more respect for Nolan, Harper, Smith and Barton or the latest caretaker (who incidentally was letting them get on with it). I think Nolan even went public at one point saying "yes Chris picks the team, but WE run the dressing room. As wins mounted up it would be a brave squad player who dared to not toe the line.

At which point we might as well all go home.

I guarentee if we were bottom at christmas knobs like you would have slagged Houghton and blamed Ashley for sticking with him. He`s made a decision so deal with it and stop fucking crying until you know what is happening and as for the 5-1 I loved it and the Villa game and the Arsenal and Chelsea games but it doesnt wipe out the utter shite either I never even slagged Hughton when we were losing at Scunthorpe you fuckin nob. I've seen worse football than you would ever believe and the only manager I've ever wanted sacked was Graham Souness. THAT is a fact. You was happy with Fat Sam? Roeder?. Glad you enjoy watching shit I hated Sam but I'm not some mug who doesn't realise we need stability. Roeder did brilliant his first season, the second the team was decimated by injuries, course I didn't want him to go. The crowd never got on Roeder's back, they got on FFS back and Roeder copped it as a result. Here man am not some dafty from fuckin "Lewes" who jumped on some bandwagon cos we had Ginola and played amazing football in the 90's. I was one of your 10,004 daft cunts who kept the club going against the Oxford in 1991, I was the type who went to matches knowing we'd have Mark Stimson at left back, Wayne Fereday on the wing knowing it would be wank, but still went, not some fuckin JCL telling me who I should and shouldn't want sacked. Lewes is in East Sussex not West Sussex and I`m not from there its just where I live. Good to see you admiting to being a daft cunt anyway. Better a daft cunt than a daft cunt JCL 38 years of age from Horsham talking utter pish on here. Looks like you've solved your earlier problem

Initially I thought this was a stunt to avoid spending money in January. But, if this was the case, he'd have done it in January. Our next games are Liverpool, Birmingham (away), Man-city and Tottenham, so if the post about forecasting results is true - the timing interesting. None of this suggests it was well planned, but I guess what I'm trying to say it we have to wait to see which manager is brought in and who arrives in January. They wanted it done and dusted in October though, until the 5-1 and Arsenal results made it impossible. What was the point in waiting until October? I agree they wanted CH out but he has done a great job THIS season, so sacking him now just proves how clueless they are. The fat cunt was clearly just waiting for a mini-slump to pull the trigger. If mini-slumps were worthy of sackings then Ferguson and Ancelotti etc etc would be out of jobs right now. So give me your gut reason why he sacked him? You want me to second guess a Mike Ashley decision? Your lack of discussion on a discussion forum never ceases to amaze me. I think i've made my points very clear so far. Have a look through this thread. So answer the simple question?

What does that prove in relation to the current situation? Your a funny one. It was relation to your suggestion that the team were playing for him..... As you are aware by leaving your original quote out Eh? I left the quote out to save space. What's your point? The team have clearly been playing for Hughton for a good while now. Explain then Alex? During the promotion winning season they all said how they had decided to play for each other, the group of four. When did that stop and change to playing for Hughton instead of themselves. Yes Im playing devils advocate but fuck me lets not all be so simplistic. You're saying 4 (just fucking FOUR) players decided to play for themselves and that's the key to last season's success? And I'm being simplistic Fuck me, were you at Hogwarts last season after the aldershot game when the famous gang of four took control? Only last week Hughton was still coming out denying the players wernt involved. Even by your standards you need a fucking

Initially I thought this was a stunt to avoid spending money in January. But, if this was the case, he'd have done it in January. Our next games are Liverpool, Birmingham (away), Man-city and Tottenham, so if the post about forecasting results is true - the timing interesting. None of this suggests it was well planned, but I guess what I'm trying to say it we have to wait to see which manager is brought in and who arrives in January. They wanted it done and dusted in October though, until the 5-1 and Arsenal results made it impossible. What was the point in waiting until October? I agree they wanted CH out but he has done a great job THIS season, so sacking him now just proves how clueless they are. The fat cunt was clearly just waiting for a mini-slump to pull the trigger. If mini-slumps were worthy of sackings then Ferguson and Ancelotti etc etc would be out of jobs right now. So give me your gut reason why he sacked him? You want me to second guess a Mike Ashley decision? Your lack of discussion on a discussion forum never ceases to amaze me.

Initially I thought this was a stunt to avoid spending money in January. But, if this was the case, he'd have done it in January. Our next games are Liverpool, Birmingham (away), Man-city and Tottenham, so if the post about forecasting results is true - the timing interesting. None of this suggests it was well planned, but I guess what I'm trying to say it we have to wait to see which manager is brought in and who arrives in January. They wanted it done and dusted in October though, until the 5-1 and Arsenal results made it impossible. So they've had a replacement planned for 6 weeks plus? What's the delay now? According to Stevie..... and hopefully the delay is just flight arrivals into Newcastle. If it's Pardew, I hope the plane skids off the runway at Newcastle again, with more flame licked results.

What does that prove in relation to the current situation? Your a funny one. It was relation to your suggestion that the team were playing for him..... As you are aware by leaving your original quote out I think you are the funny one. And not in the comedic way. You always show up with the same patter tbf

What does that prove in relation to the current situation? Your a funny one. It was relation to your suggestion that the team were playing for him..... As you are aware by leaving your original quote out Eh? I left the quote out to save space. What's your point? The team have clearly been playing for Hughton for a good while now. Explain then Alex? During the promotion winning season they all said how they had decided to play for each other, the group of four. When did that stop and change to playing for Hughton instead of themselves. Yes Im playing devils advocate but fuck me lets not all be so simplistic.

Initially I thought this was a stunt to avoid spending money in January. But, if this was the case, he'd have done it in January. Our next games are Liverpool, Birmingham (away), Man-city and Tottenham, so if the post about forecasting results is true - the timing interesting. None of this suggests it was well planned, but I guess what I'm trying to say it we have to wait to see which manager is brought in and who arrives in January. They wanted it done and dusted in October though, until the 5-1 and Arsenal results made it impossible. What was the point in waiting until October? I agree they wanted CH out but he has done a great job THIS season, so sacking him now just proves how clueless they are. The fat cunt was clearly just waiting for a mini-slump to pull the trigger. If mini-slumps were worthy of sackings then Ferguson and Ancelotti etc etc would be out of jobs right now. So give me your gut reason why he sacked him?