Kevin Carr's Gloves

I voted for the cunts but I always have done, (Sort of in the family,Nan was a good friend of David Steele) Osborne has made Thatcher look like a benevolent defender of the poorest members of society this afternoon...I hope Clegg and the rest of the bandwagon jumpers can look the grass roots in the face at the next party conference.. What a load of drivel Wheres your vitriol for the fuckers who got us into this mess. Labour fucked up big time, but they improved a lot of things in this country and what they did in comparison with certain bankers was fuckin childs play....no city fuck up= little or no current recession in my book. Then no need for Brown to be blamed for everything from the 10p tax rate to the crucifiction of christ and perhaps we'd still have a government that for the most part (and despite their many and glaring faults) actually wanted to make life better for ordinary people.This lot don't and never will. But they didn't. The Labour government was the worst case of Orwell's animal farm syndrome ever. In the 13 years they were in power the gap between the richest and poorest rose. The amount of children in poverty grew and we decided to back the most right wing government in America in centuries. Added on top of that the absolute fuck up over bank regulation which gets despicable when you see that the head of RBS was whispering in Browns ear plus the corruption in Labour counvcils which I have proof of. The last 13 years saw the most un Labour Labour party in history.

At the moment we have a triple a rating with credit agencies but if anything else bad happens that may change. Otr it may not. Dont confuse me with a Tory I detest the tories more than most but that has a lot to do with being from a mining family. Labour do have to take a huge share of the blame for where we are in relation to cuts and dont think they would not swing the axe too. I didn't think you were a Tory - and as I consider that a grave insult please accept an apology. The credit rating is pretty much what I was referring to - the way the UK's debt is structured compared with other countries is favourable so using a threat to that rating is particularly wrong imo. I'm also not completely exonerating Labour from blame - they have embraced international financial capitalism so have to accept consequences of that approach even if the effects are global. I also accept that the nonchalant approach to the deficit pre-crisis was a bit daft and some cuts were probably inevitible at some stage - savage cuts right now are still wrong imo for the reasons laid out in this thread. Apology accepted.

At the moment we have a triple a rating with credit agencies but if anything else bad happens that may change. Otr it may not. Dont confuse me with a Tory I detest the tories more than most but that has a lot to do with being from a mining family. Labour do have to take a huge share of the blame for where we are in relation to cuts and dont think they would not swing the axe too. http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-stag...arling-thatcher Promises before an election are like the promises made to a nightclub pick up that you will definitely call them the day after.

I cant believe your seriously putting up this sort of rhetoric :) What do you think the defecit is? The difference between money in to the government and money out. If we have a defecit then surely its because we havent got enough to pay our bills. We have money to spend and the deficit is funded by the lowest rates of interest in history. If we grow the economy we can pay it back. The point is, we have access to capital to fund the deficit and have a huge budget to spend. 'There is no money left' is rubbish. The British govt owes 900 billion pounds and some economists estimate that will rise to 1.1 trillion in 2011. Last year the gap between what the govt took in from earnings and what it spent was 170 billion the amount it borrowed. This does not however include the spending done through PFI as that is not official borrowing. To put that into perspective in my council of South Lanarkshire the local government has to pay 30 million a year ofr the next 30 years for the 17 schools which have been built. I would imagin as a medium size council this would be the national average. So we owe a trillion pounds and still have to borrow to make up the shortfall on what we spend. Oh and just to rub salt in the wounds the last round of PFI spending was dogged by the companies not having the cash to stump up for it. So as a result and not wishing to be shown to be a mong Gordon Brown gave permission to the treasury to loan money to the PFI companies so they could loan it back to the government at a mark up rate. So yes we are rich as Croesus. Or should that be Greece?

The truth is our players aren't as good as we think they are. Gerrard has had the propensity to go missing for Liverpool too. When he does play well its generally part of a team which includes none of his ENgland Team Mates. Rooney is brilliant at Man U where he gets good service from other none England playing team mates. Lampard is surrounded by world class players who....... yes you guessed it dont play for England. The truth is they are all made to look brilliant as part of teams which allow them to shine. Put them all together and they turn to shit.

I don't like the England football team, nowt to do with England the place, you appear to be kevin squared tbh Our rivals are Argentina, Germany and Portugal etc! You're a shit little country with no significance what-so-ever. There is no rivalry Smell your breath. Examine your small change. You mong. You tight shameless cunt. I'd be embarrassed being from a country where I'm unable to support my local team through pure embarrassment. FoK. Well super supporter. Where are you from? How many games do you go to? You useless cretin. North East England. 12 home games last season. You? Southern Houston, CA. 32 Major League Baseball games last season. We don't have a local soccer team. You cumstain. You my dear little fuckface are a downright liar. In the Bloody Sunday thread you claim to be from Derry. So which one is it then?

There is so much wrong with that statement. Pray tell me what is so wrong? It was not the fault of any attitude that Britain lost the Empire. Empires collapse plain and simple none last forever due to them being the product of conquest. Sooner or later the conquested nation starts to learn and manages to overthrow the imperial power. Perhaps what you say is true, but not entirely. The likes of India, Australia, New Zealand etc etc did not "overthrow" the imperial power. India for instance was gramted independence. In actual fact Britain adopted a policy of peaceful disengagement from its colonies. Could that be construed as attitude? No its due to the economic problems running a country from that far away when the population wants independance. The cost of maintaining an Empire was far more than the benefits. The policy of peaceful disengagement was due to the prohibitive costs of war and the problems of justifying an empire after the war for freedom.

Am I missing something? Joe Cole is the biggest diver in the Premiership.

There is so much wrong with that statement. Pray tell me what is so wrong? It was not the fault of any attitude that Britain lost the Empire. Empires collapse plain and simple none last forever due to them being the product of conquest. Sooner or later the conquested nation starts to learn and manages to overthrow the imperial power.

Surely the point was though they weren't fucking English. They were also brought in by Richard Coeur de Lion who spoke very little English and spent 3 months of his Life in England. He was however bisexual so must have liked a party.

There is so much wrong with that statement.

I heard there is one on tomorrow in Newcastle anyone going to shout abuse at the cockneys?

I boycotted it ages ago when Taylor wrote the shit about our chanting at Mido. I get the Indy now.

Dead now apparently. RIP I loved his show when I was a kid.

He was not our first Black player so why would we have protested against him anyway?

In general businesses has moved to India so they can use cheap employment, rather than avoid UK taxes, wouldn't you agree? So how would you stem this, by reducing the national wage to that of an average Indian? Please enlighten me. Under the last Labour government taxes have been very competitive with the rest of the Western world, whatever the Daily Mail might tell you. Also, didn't the Conservatives plan to levy non-doms as part of their manifesto? Not that I am necessarily against this, but it leaves your argument in as much tatters as your understanding of your payslip. Your fine with the 9 guys and a business sector goes to the pub, but not the reference to India. Feel free to change it to '10 goes out of business because the state bailed out banks wont lend any money at less than 18% APR' Regarding outsource, the issue has never been solely about cost savings. We are losing businesses because they have no reason to stay. I mentioned increasing the broadband speed to 1GB. This would create a media sector businesses would flock too. Yes it is its all about cost saving. Why else would anyone move a customer service base to a country which does not have English as their first language. If I could I would disassociate myself from any company which had a call centre in India. I also think companies should be taxed for operating in Europe with important services based outside of EUrope.

If they have changed your pricing structure significantly they cant say no. And you know I am always at your service. Thats the thing about being a full grown man we can reaches the places other shorter people cant.

Write to them saying you want to cancel due to changes in your contract which mean a change in your pricing structure. You can call and tell them that is what you are going to do as well.

Well my guess is that we will sell Guti after the World Cup. Possibly even Enrique and Colo if the money is right. Then replace them with loanees, freebees or acadamees. Next season is just going to be the absolute best ever.

I fancy it but it's quite expensive to get to I think despite its proximity. Plus it'll be one of those dodgy SAS airline fokkers no doubt. Didn't Slartibartfast design the Fjords as well? It is also ridiculously expensive while over there as well. My uncle has family in Norway and when his family go he pavcks everyobodies suitcases with food and drink. My cousin said she was complaining the whole holiday because her clothes smelled of lamb.

Indeed... Didn't dare serve a writ on Murdoch last week though, did he? Isn't it true that he refused to take part in a BBC Scotland debate at the weekend? What a cock! No its not.

The current system allows a party to govern without checks by gaining the support of 31% of the country. That just is not right. The only other government in Europe which operates a system as unrepresentative as ours is France. It doesn't matter what kind of system you have as long as decently clever people with the right motives come to the top. Unfortunately I have to hope that would start to happen when total power was no longer on offer to twats.

Its shit.

I am 41 and heading for a stag do at Aviemore the end of this month. While the rest of the lads who are a bit younger than me are talking of monumental drinking sessions followed by lung bursting mountain biking I have told them I am just looking forward to a nice lie in wher my daughter does not get me up at 6 to watch Mickey Muse Clubhouse and Handy Manny. lol.

A white horse walks into a bar and the barman says "here we have a whisky named after you. The horse replies "you have a whisky named Jester"? How do you annoy Lady Gaga? Poke her face.