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I'll come out and say I am absolutely certain it was a plane, the same plane that was hijacked by fanatical islamic terrorists, the same plane that was tracked on radar and disappeared over the pentagon, the same plane terrified passengers made phone calls from to their loved ones, the same plane that was witnessed by dozens of eye witnesses flying low and hitting the pentagon, and the same plane whose fragments can clearly be seen in the penthouse. No hedging from me there, shame about the conspiracists. I understand what you're saying and can see the thinking behind it. But my question still stands. In the pictures of the crash site where are all the bits of planes? On the bit in bold. I believe that was the plane that crashed in pennsylvania. To my knowledge and I could be wrong there has been no communication released from this plane.

I don't know I don't like making assumptions. but a 757 is huge where are all the bits?

Not necessarily not all missiles leave debris. There are some compound missiles which completely burn up. What's a compound missile? A missile made not of metal but a carbon compound. Laser guided can enter throu a window or ventilation shaft. Can carry a lot of explosive. Or a thermite charge. What is it propelled by? Rocket motors have large metal parts. Cruise missiles have turbine blades. Laser guidance implies non carbon elements that would survive a crash. Why would it need a thermite charge? A large amount of explosive leaves a chemical trace, and a fireball different to the one seen on the video stills in this thread. Not all missiles ar propelled by rockets. Laser guided doesnt always mean an on board laser. And can you give proof to the different effect to the one seen on the video? As with Parky earlier, I think the onus is on you to provide the proof for the crackpot theories here. What crackpot theories would these be. I have not espoused any. i have just said I don't trust the official version and given reasons why. Must have misunderstood you then, I thought you were suggesting missiles may have been fired at the Pentagon. Glad you aren't tbh Can you read? Or are you in the Leazesmag school of misquoting here? What I said was there is very little evidence of a huge plane hitting this building. Which there isnt in the terms of wreckage and engines. I am also saying that it is entirely plausible that a missile could have caused the damage. Which it is. The American government doesn't have a good history of doing the right thing by it's people. For example having a war on terror at home while keeping major players in the cocaine trade in power in central / southern america. Or saying they fight for democracy whilst being very happy to deal with the most un democratic governments in the world. Or prolonging wars to the profit of big business.

I cant be arsed to read the bigotted drivel from Leazes arse and toondoggydoody. But has anyone mentioned the fatone said Bellamy would never play for us again? Also how he tried to cause trouble between Shearer and the bellend and then had to climb down. And of course they are going to say that it doesn't matter about Bellamy's personality if he plays. they are both odious shits themselves. Cue Lm and TD "You don't know what you're talking about, only supported us since 1992 blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda I talk out me arse you know drivel"

Not necessarily not all missiles leave debris. There are some compound missiles which completely burn up. What's a compound missile? A missile made not of metal but a carbon compound. Laser guided can enter throu a window or ventilation shaft. Can carry a lot of explosive. Or a thermite charge. What is it propelled by? Rocket motors have large metal parts. Cruise missiles have turbine blades. Laser guidance implies non carbon elements that would survive a crash. Why would it need a thermite charge? A large amount of explosive leaves a chemical trace, and a fireball different to the one seen on the video stills in this thread. Not all missiles ar propelled by rockets. Laser guided doesnt always mean an on board laser. And can you give proof to the different effect to the one seen on the video? As with Parky earlier, I think the onus is on you to provide the proof for the crackpot theories here. What crackpot theories would these be. I have not espoused any. i have just said I don't trust the official version and given reasons why.

Not necessarily not all missiles leave debris. There are some compound missiles which completely burn up. What's a compound missile? A missile made not of metal but a carbon compound. Laser guided can enter throu a window or ventilation shaft. Can carry a lot of explosive. Or a thermite charge. What is it propelled by? Rocket motors have large metal parts. Cruise missiles have turbine blades. Laser guidance implies non carbon elements that would survive a crash. Why would it need a thermite charge? A large amount of explosive leaves a chemical trace, and a fireball different to the one seen on the video stills in this thread. Not all missiles ar propelled by rockets. Laser guided doesnt always mean an on board laser. And can you give proof to the different effect to the one seen on the video?

Are you saying that Lockerbie wasn't instigated by Gaddafi? No where did I say that can you raise it in bold or point it out in a different colour?

Not necessarily not all missiles leave debris. There are some compound missiles which completely burn up. What's a compound missile? A missile made not of metal but a carbon compound. Laser guided can enter throu a window or ventilation shaft. Can carry a lot of explosive. Or a thermite charge.

How does America get away with the "promoting Democracy" line they didn't promote democracy in central / south America.

Can I just confirm that I personally don't believe that the world trade centres were rigged. I do think there is something dodgy about the attack on the pentagon building due to the lack of large pieces of large plane lying around. Also (I may be wrong here) it is the only flight they have not released the black box recording on. I do think that the govt new an attack was iminent but perhaps didnt realise the targets would be so populous. I think they may have thought they were just going to blow up the planes. For this look at the lockerbie bombing where they used an attack on a plane as an excuse to bomb someone else. I don't think they organised the whole thing but feel they may have done more to stop it.

I hate weekends when we aren't playing.

Yeh good point. I know the Office was written by both of them, but I wonder how much Merchant actually put in to it. Barely gets any credit for the best program of all time. () Plus, the Oggmonster is a fucking class character! I'm really glad he won the Comedy award ahead of Gervais for his character in Extras. Him and Barry are fucking hilarious together Aye, I love that scene where they sing Mustang Sally, "just having a little sing song!" Could I ask why you have a swastika in your details? Have you just spotted that btw? Yes I normally don't pay alot of attention to that stuff.

I hope I meet you one day.

Estee Lauder or Versace.

Probably not but I am at work and waiting to be made redundant so am doing bog all and was bored.

Yeh good point. I know the Office was written by both of them, but I wonder how much Merchant actually put in to it. Barely gets any credit for the best program of all time. () Plus, the Oggmonster is a fucking class character! I'm really glad he won the Comedy award ahead of Gervais for his character in Extras. Him and Barry are fucking hilarious together Aye, I love that scene where they sing Mustang Sally, "just having a little sing song!" Could I ask why you have a swastika in your details?

Perhaps because a similar event has never happened? Passenger jets rarely hit buildings, even less so at that trajectory. The Pentagon is possibly unique in its design and construction. Yes but they crash often and always leave a lot of wreckage and bags strewn all over the place. Which crash are you comparing it to then? This is a good site. Note the gouged earth. http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles...anecrashes.html I see this has gone un-answered by the "experts" on here. SSH already did. Anyway, you've got a cheek with "experts", you've backed up absolute nothing you've said in this thread. No doubt you could tell us, but you'd have to kill us. No he didnt he just asked why gouged earth would be important. And that would be because a plane that flies into a relatively short building would either gouge the earth going into it or clip it and go over the top.

Not necessarily not all missiles leave debris. There are some compound missiles which completely burn up.

...........Who are you? Pot... kettle..... Sharrap! ....I'm a busy fella Ohhh... get you. What's the next compliation going to be and for what occasion? Is that one of those made up american words meaning to agree to do something.

As I said, shame our previous worthy directors - who were just as good as their successors - didn't appoint him when he was in his prime. He obviously just didn't fall into their laps as a stroke of luck. Noelie will perhaps cast his experienced and knowledgeable eye in at this point and englighten us .. What prime he has always been a shit manager. With Liverpool he took the best team in the world and ruined it. In Scotland there was only one team in the league at the time and he spent millions.

Cant safely say it looks nothing like Young Kenny like. Look up Justin Moorhouse on images but I agree nowt like him

I made pancakes for Mrs gloves and made a selection of fillings. All sweet like.

Perhaps because a similar event has never happened? Passenger jets rarely hit buildings, even less so at that trajectory. The Pentagon is possibly unique in its design and construction. Yes but they crash often and always leave a lot of wreckage and bags strewn all over the place. Which crash are you comparing it to then? This is a good site. Note the gouged earth. http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles...anecrashes.html

Perhaps because a similar event has never happened? Passenger jets rarely hit buildings, even less so at that trajectory. The Pentagon is possibly unique in its design and construction. Yes but they crash often and always leave a lot of wreckage and bags strewn all over the place.

The one conspiracy theory about the whole thing is the Pentagon hit. Never seen a plane leave such a neat whole and no wreckage before.