NJS

What about that shit with the "accidental" return of May's Deal?

I think it's the failure to recognise her legacy that grates - especially for women.

She's over-proud of her role in austerity though which is very relevant to brexit.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/03/04/lib-dem-deputy-leader-jo-swinson-backs-calls-margaret-thatcher/ She posited in feminist terms of course.

I object to all privatisations. When the people in charge of it are as directly involved with the firms appointed like Osborne and Cable it adds an extra edge.

She wrote an article in the sun demanding a national statue to Thatcher.

I was describing her chances in the upcoming GE. I think you know what I think of Johnson.

Cable is a corrupt bastard who made money out of privatising royal mail. Clegg is a tory enabling cunt. Farron was a faith head bigot. Kennedy was a decent bloke.

She's said in no circumstances which means she'll do a Clegg and insist he resigns. She's a cunt.

I think Swinson will reveal what a nasty tory shit she is which could be a factor.

Has anyone asked the LDs or others what they want the other option(s) to be on the ballot and what they'd do if leave won? I still think it would be closer than assumed after another campaign because I cant's see any lessons learned

It's a "best for the country moment" imo - they have to make sure October 31st passes then embrace it 100%.

Fair comment - I think he should have come out for a second ref sooner. Thing is if there is another vote and leave won at least he could continue that unite line - the libs and the rest would be fucked.

I've argued this strongly at work with people who didn't even know about "De Ffeffel". It's like when they humanised the bitch with "Maggie".

The way the two sides have entrenched themselves has led to the leave=right wing racist/remain = traitor rhetoric. I know I come across as the most pro-Corbyn poster on here which is fair despite my doubts about his leadership at times but I'd say he was the only leader to actually try and bring the two sides together. That may be because he's actually a leaver in a mainly remain party but it's also true. Nearly everybody on here would like to see revocation by whatever means but I think there's too much contempt for leavers at times. Some of them deserve it but not all. This was in reply to zerosum BTW.

There's a couple of blokes on the next desk to mine, both leavers, who are absolutely terrified of a Corbyn government. The other day they were whinging about a policy I haven't read about which would count lifetime gifts to kids like weddings and house deposits as part of the iht allowance. Obviously pure evil compared to no deal. They work on a team which has spent just about 2 years preparing for brexit so they know perfectly well how stupid it is but believe eveytthing will be back to normal after six months of a no deal.

Won't happen and I'm not sure it's actually correct morally but it would be funny if Labour just ran on a revoke platform - that would shut Swinson up at least.

As I said when it was suggested, the idea that he'd try and pass all kinds of legislation is just scare tactics as it would be voted down anyway without the extra numbers from other parties. Of course Clarke won't have to sell himself as anti-Corbyn at a subsequent election which is the real reason Swinson won't join.

I love how his letter tries to make it about other issues with this pesky brexit as a distraction.

One win from 4th.

Exactly right. Though I can't help thinking his master stroke was telling them to forget everything he's told them since he arrived and just play like last year.

I still think the season and probably this match will end in tears but that was a bloody good half.

The Pardew hammerings are back as predicted

All summer signings loaned back to their previous clubs in January....

It's like gameplans and tactics actually fucking matter.