NJS

I've never voted Labour since he abolished clause 4.

If the unions were running the country why did the winter of discontent happen? surely they just needed to ring up and get 50% rises but no they had to strike Which way do you want it? Thatcher is lauded for standing up to the miners but Callahan is pilloried = do you think she would have given the public sector workers what they wanted?

Farming and Banking - the most subsidised industries in history.

I don't know anyone vaguely left wing including myself who doesnt regard him as a tory cunt.

You should know by now that when you try and use "facts" you lose/ More days were lost to strikes under her. the top rate was 60% - the 98 included investment income which only applied to the mega rich. Like she would have worked with the unions. I asked you yesterday to expain how other countries did it better with less pain - Im guessing I'll not get any answers.

We need some HF graphs - unemployment by the old count reached nearly 5m under Thatcher. And if you're questioning the entire invention of the welfare state then you are even more right wing than her.

It was her who first put so many on incapacity to reduce the total but think about how your argument fits with the bankers Played the patriot card shamelessly while as you say telling everyone to sod everyone except your family.

Most she ever got was 41% /i think - geographically divided as now. Liberals are just as culpable for her reign imo.

Obama is as much an enemy of freedom as she was. And you're kidding yourself if you think hatred is minimal.

Typical Thatcherite - doesnt comprehend empathy for family, friends, community, society. Me, Myself, Now - that should be one of her epithets.

I've always summed it up by saying that the ecstasy of victory is eclipsed by the agony of defeat. I'd have the fuckers in the conference.

Pol Pot changed his country too. She didn't "defeat" me but she used the power of the state to destroy the lives of millions. She was a cunt.

Thing is as soon as you "celebrate" her death you do lose a tad morality wise which I'd accept if it was anyone else.

The reactions are very marmite like which is appropriate given how her abiding feature was divisiveness. Its going to be a sickening few days with all the plaudits.

RIH

Seen the clip of the fucker's jumper? - fucking hell.

It's a stormy mistress though - I was just thinking I was happy Wigan had lost because of the tackle follow-up but seeing Redknapp's saggy face drop even further was great.

Thought the ref was generally shit and channeling Le Tissier booking a player for celebrating a goal which could keep his team up is a pedantic cunt's trick.

Thank the fucking Lord. Couldn't see it coming but you've always got a chance with an instinctive goalscorer in the team.

More teams like Stoke and Norwich involved the better.

Noticing Doncaster on Ssn I wonder if its a trend that quite a few of the shitbag clubs that play a song when they score are in Yorkshire or Lancashire.

Explain how the countries with policies opposite to hers progressed more.

Yes but going to Spain for a fortnight I would say is now a working class standard which would have been unthinkable in the 60s/70s. Increasing living standards has applied across the board - I'd say a middle class travel standard now would be a long haul holiday with quite a few mini-breaks.

It's more a symptom of MPs (of all parties) living by the notion that they are somehow different and the rules don't apply to them that gets me.

I've said before that I think the Catholic church is the most evil inrtitution on Earth and I stand by that - its also the one I have the most knowledge of and the most reason to reject personally which I'm happy to do and I recognise the insanity of the other others but I still think Islam stands out. That's not my view of Muslims - I mostly see them as victims of their culture and regret that most don't have the simple choice of opting out that others have in other parts of the world. The reason I see Islam as more of a threat is geo-political rather than necessarily theological (though as I say I think thats bad as well) and of course the western nations have played a part in that with their actions in the middle east. However the mix of Islam, culture and history does make the mix more toxic than other areas. I think its a shame that South America and Africa are under the thrall of catholicism and/or toxic brands of christianity but in general they are being "corrupted" nicely by western ideals and I think they'll be okay evenetually. The problem with the Islamic world is that though western influence is having an affect, their starting point is much lower.