NJS

The "Blair for president" argument used to be used with Thatcher - its the argument of an absolute fucking cretin. Can anyone argue with someone like Mary Robinson who was Irish president? Can anyone name the president of Germany who I understand is the dignified head of state we could have without the inbred soap opera? (cue the cretins mentioning Hitler).

Spot on. If it was just a wedding then they could have that in Windsor chapel. Instead its a celebration of fuedalism and oppression. I'd also mention the religious angle - they aren't just taught their position is a birthright they are taught (and it is the official dogma of the religion which no doubt people on here were happy to identify themselves in the census) that they are literally appointed by the grace of God. If you don't find any of that offensive then like I said you have no pride in yourself on any level.

I assumed they paid him said bonus in return for what they saw as the PR worth of the request.

Gaddafi may be available soon, if you fancy an alternative. There are worse people there today who were invited with no problem. Saddam ? Whoever represented Saudi, Bahrain, Yemen, Zimbabwe, a few other African countries and Indonesia would be a good start.

All NE's that don't start with 3 are fine One thing I didn't mention, if it is £5 billion, and I knew it wasn't 10's of millions as NJS said, put this in to perspective. The cut backs in our country, where the effects haven't fully hit home yet, and will cost tens of thousands of jobs, are only saving 6 billion. One billion more than we've sacrificed for this on this scandalous day. It's actually obscene. All of this bollocks about how much the money the Royal Family bring in to the country via tourism, as Ketsbaia said on twitter, how the fuck do you calculate that? I thought I may have read a figure of £2bn somewhere but couldn't be bothered to search which is why I put 10s of millions. Being honest I think these things can be exaggerated as describing "lost sales" doesn't mention you could just go and buy whatever it was tomorrow. I suppose businesses that rely on other businesses being open like restaurants etc would be hit hardest. Having said that I know where I work the obvious purpose is to trade to make money every day so any lost chance represents a miss. The tourism one is a hard one as its obvious to me that people would still come here if it was abolished today. The standard argument is that the palace of Versailles is the biggest tourist attraction in Europe despite the French doing the right thing 230 years ago. Having said that I wonder how many thick yanks wouldn't bother if they didn't think they could actually sit down to tea with the Queen.

Gaddafi may be available soon, if you fancy an alternative. There are worse people there today who were invited with no problem.

I don't really give a shit about the economics - its the principle of position by birth that's abhorrent and anyone who doesn't realise that cannot have any pride.

I'm not happy about it - just realistic as I know there's nothing that can change it - certainly nothing you've suggested anyway.

I've tried. I'll leave this to someone else, your hatred really burns you. No doubt some meaningless babble about "increasing revenues" you picked up from elsewhere that you can't explain because you don't understand it. don't you understand what increased revenues and being 14th in the rich list means ? It's pointless this, you are brainwashed by Mike and Dekka just like those tits on skunkers. If the turnover was 100m and you increased revenues 10% (a huge deal for a business that size) would 10m buy you an assault on 4th? If you take the cost of an assault as a very conservative 100m how feasible would it be for a club to double its revenue? Dis being 14th on a list mean we could spend 100m?

It's going to generate 107m for the economy. not a bad return on 25m. in fact. it's about the best return on tax money one could ask for. An extra public holiday costs the economy 10s of millions - I'd be astounded if the overall balance was positive.

I've tried. I'll leave this to someone else, your hatred really burns you. No doubt some meaningless babble about "increasing revenues" you picked up from elsewhere that you can't explain because you don't understand it.

what the fuck are you babbling about. Your posts are filled with irrational hatred and no common sense, they are almost as nonsensical as the idealistic political rubbish you spout. What has the Halls selling the club got to do with Mike Ashley dragging it downwards from "punching above its weight"? That became Mike Ashleys direction and his problem from the moment he bought it, and surely that means you should be more appreciative of the Halls ? Oh, of course, you resent anybody making money don't you. Ashley thought he was buying a viable business - the debt meant he wasn't which is what they knew and why they wanted to sell. I'm pretty sure Ashley's intention was to make a success of the purchase but he's now had to spend probably all the money he was willing to to get to here. That money has been increased by his own incompetence but to suggest he set out 4 years ago to run the club down is fucking even too stupid for you. Again you're happy for them to make that money at severe cost to the club we all support - says it all.

In reply to your edit, you've stated we can't compete with Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City - the realistic level now is the 6/7/8 division - if that's Everton, Bolton and maybe SAFC then yes, that's our level now. Again how can we change that in a way that doesn't involve fantasy?

So no answer as to why you think we should be competing on a consistent basis with the clubs I named? No answer as to why the Halls cut and ran?

Funny thing was as I said in reply to that Scouser, his first team at Liverpool when Beardsley and Barnes were at their best was a fantastic football team - I think it was only after he'd gone to Blackburn that he became a football murderer. His rejection of Beardsley was his biggest mistake in my view.

Teams with higher all time averages than NUFC: Man Utd, Liverpool, Tottenham, Arsenal and Chelsea. Teams who have won more trophies than NUFC: Man Utd, Liverpool, Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton and Villa Do you think 5 or 6 years of Sky based turnover figures when some clubs who would get bigger crowds if they weren't limited by their grounds somehow overwrites 130 years of Football history? What basis do you have for thinking we should be competing with those clubs? Some opinion that Liverpool's crowds are shite when they drop so somehow that makes us bigger? The ironic thing is you spout off about Sky era fans but its you who embodies the cliched Geordie who thinks we're a big club who win things. Under Shepherd we did nearly get relegated, did finish 13th a couple of times and 11th a couple of times - we followed what was a microcosm for the clubs whole history - overall failure with brief moments of glory - its the delusion that you think we now have the "right" to expect success as the norm that is truly laughable. The seeds of the decline we see now were sown by the Halls and Shepherd - the fact that you can't see that economic times were changing and have changed when the men involved did themselves and got out before the real shit hit the fan just shows you up for their sap.

Your view of Carroll's transfer was that we shouldn't have sold him to Liverpool because you see them as a team we should be competing against - surely the same applied to the sale of Hamman? The board/PLC thing is a load of shit - its obvious all major decisions such as managers and transfers were taken by Shepherd with reference to Douglas Hall - if you think Shepherd was contacting non-entities who only exist because for accounting reasons before sacking/appointing managers or deciding on who to sell players than you're even blinder than I thought. The club is going in exactly the same direction it was when Ashley bought it - even the Halls didn't believe your "re-grouping" nonsense and sold out to a scumbag as quickly as they could. Any answer on the Liverpool position thing? any answer on the champions league and european qualifications thing ? Easy - we used a great time for the club with a great pair of managers to punch above our weight for a few years. That CANNOT happen in the present economic climate without Man City like money which isn't going to happen so unless he sells or wakes up and decides to spend his money we might be extremely lucky and scrape a 7th in the the next few years and make it - exactly as would have happened under Shepherds latter tenure. Any clarification needed?

Your view of Carroll's transfer was that we shouldn't have sold him to Liverpool because you see them as a team we should be competing against - surely the same applied to the sale of Hamman? The board/PLC thing is a load of shit - its obvious all major decisions such as managers and transfers were taken by Shepherd with reference to Douglas Hall - if you think Shepherd was contacting non-entities who only exist because for accounting reasons before sacking/appointing managers or deciding on who to sell players than you're even blinder than I thought. The club is going in exactly the same direction it was when Ashley bought it - even the Halls didn't believe your "re-grouping" nonsense and sold out to a scumbag as quickly as they could. Any answer on the Liverpool position thing?

You rarely post on skunkers now because your relentless pro Shepherd/anti Ashley posts were so boring that everyone on there put you on ignore. Are you trying to achieve the same here? I never posted much on skunkers to start with. The relentless crap spouted on about "trophy signings" [hope you are happy with the quality of our current strikers instead] and how embarrassing it was to be one of the top clubs in the country, and how anybody but Fred would do better, bored the fuck out of me. I hope all the pricks who wanted all of that are happy. And I didn't mention Shepherd when you mentioned Hamman. I made a comment about Liverpool buying our best players and giving us their shite in exchange ? Do you not agree with that ? Did I mention Shepherd, it was nothing to do with Shepherd you halfwit. Why don't you do a bit of research into why Hamman was sold, in case you're so stupid and clueless you don't know ? Then when you have done that, examine your comment that Shepherd sold him when he never owned the club. Then when you have done that, look at the league positions we achieved and the champions League qualifications achieved after Hamman was sold before asking such a fucking stupid question.. Sadly, there are plenty of arseholes like you still around, on all the message boards including skunkers, and in real life. Make a sensible and correct statement if you want to debate anything with me, or don't bother. Hamman was sold because he took the huff with Gullit - though of course according to you we shouldn't have sold him to a so called rival when there isn't a player on the planet who wouldn't see Liverpool as a step up from Newcastle at any time in the past, now or in the future.. So why does Shepherd still refer to all the decisions like appointing managers and signing Owen etc in the first person? He was responsible for day to day decisions and even if he did get Hall junior involved that's no "excuse". Why don't you answer a question from Skunkers - why do you refer to Liverpool as a team we shouldn't be below when we only finished above them once in ten years when Shepherd was chairman?

I'm a bit surprised Stevie - I would have had you down for a royalist to go with your other patriotism stuff. They face a dilemma on the republic imo - if they want to keep it going another century they should try and fiddle skipping to the cretinous groom today - I honestly think the fig-eared cunt being king could be their downfall (hopefully). Today is a wonderful opportunity to vastly purge the gene pool by mining and/or machine gunning the crowds and a couple of bombs among the VIP area would do the world a power of good as well.

Said before his two-footed tackle on Dumas at Highbury which of course he only got a yellow for was the dirtiest tackle I've ever seen. Also deserves inclusion for getting Robert sent off with his deliberate quick free-kick - genuine attempt my fucking arse. On thread if you want to use the complimentary form of of the word from our point of view and the other form for the rest of the world then Shearer would be captain.

I think he'll act like a twat - too thick to do otherwise.

See I'd say aye great goal, but not as good as the Arsenal goal and no where near the to 20 goals I've seen in the flesh. In my case quite a few scored by Beardsley. Though McGhee's versus Bradford come instantly to mind as a goal that pissed all over last nights.

I thought my ongoing/never-ending quest for a new job had hit a new milestone today. I was out and about earlier and got a call from an agent about a role at Goldman Sachs. First time I've heard their name mentioned and I'd just assumed they did their recruitment directly via the Illuminati (or more likely by family/friends referral only). Anyway on getting home and reading the spec it turns out its a good fit for my skills apart from of course the key technology/system plastered in bold at the top and mentioned in the first sentence (Informatica) which I don't have - another Agent fail. Was looking forward to descending to the next circle of hell (or maybe even 2 levels at once).

Ye should be on Britain's Got Talent yee like. Anyone who wears them can get them in in 10 seconds. I've had mine since I was 17, best invention ever, still considering lazer treatment though. As soon as I had them in the first time, I thought; this is fucking great-I'm getting my eyes lasered. I'm getting a bit better at putting them in, I spent ages last week trying to pop one in though and the bastard kept sticking to my finger, then I think it went in inside-out. Tantrums ensued. I had lenses for a couple of years before I got lasered (and between ops) and remember once being that pissed I spent the train ride home (35 mins) trying to get a lens out that had actually popped out on the first attempt. bit of a sore eye the next day and I was also glad it was my left eye which I had disposables for - my right needed a "proper" one due to astigmatism.