NJS

The problem with QE was that the money was sucked up by the banks - I'd liked to have seen it invested more directly in the economy, cutting out the middle man - things like extending the car scrappage scheme to all household goods etc.

It's 7th century. 7th. Wouldn't want you to commit a factual error to go along with your ignorance and racism, you've got enough on your plate. Islam wasn't that bad in the early days - certainly pissed on Europe's dark ages in terms of scientific progress etc - I think it was about the 16th century when it started to go a bit wrong. What happened in the 1500s that made it go wrong? The Ottoman Empire was still at its strongest then. No, it was the late 19th century when Islamic civilisation entered a terminal decline ending in the fall of the Ottomans and the rise of Islamism as a political philosophy, then the early 20th century post-WWI period when Western colonial powers set up dictatorships in the former Ottoman territories that endure to this day (see Saudi, Jordan, most of the Gulf states, etc). What I said about the 7th century was referring to his "turn back the clock" comment. Nobody wants to turn back the clock to the 1300s. The radicals say they're going to re-implement the caliphate, shari'a, etc - all of which dates from the 7th century, the time of the Prophet. Wasn't in around the 16th that the Sunni/Shia split happened? - obviously I'm not an expert but had read what may have been a throwaway remark about Islamic centres of learning etc "coming to an end" about then.

It's 7th century. 7th. Wouldn't want you to commit a factual error to go along with your ignorance and racism, you've got enough on your plate. Islam wasn't that bad in the early days - certainly pissed on Europe's dark ages in terms of scientific progress etc - I think it was about the 16th century when it started to go a bit wrong.

I had to have the two teeth either side of my front teeth taken out when I was 13 I think and it stopped me going to the dentists for years - I chipped a tooth as an adult so had to go then but just had 3 or 4 fillings at that time - I've looked after them pretty well since then. My last but one dentist (within the same practice) had a talent for making the anasthetic injection pain free - first time I refused to believe she's done it. She moved on unfortunately.

I think the "why would you want to go there?" can be applied to most places but the failure of Mackems to recognise Newcastle as by far the regional hub is quite amusing. Especially when they start bleating about regeneration.

Unfortunately you need their bias driven power base to be able to get away with his outbursts. I still remember Martin Edwardes saying that Arsenal should give David Elleray one of their championship medals for some perceived "crime" - an unbelievable statement for a club chairman to make.

The club were right imo to raise the issue of Atkinson being shit but I can't help feeling it will also cost us with other refs.

That post from Parky sound like its similar to Barry Moat for us - we can but hope its true and the bloke does stretch himself to buy.

That just makes Pompey look more stupid - if vaguely competent people (business-wise) like Hicks, Ashley and the the Icelandic bloke knew to set up holding companies then so should they.

I had one out about 8 years ago when I had a dentist who was quite a small (and very attractive) Indian lass who had to give up half way through and call her husband (the other practice dentist) in to get the fucker out - even then it was a struggle. I think I've mentioned before that one of the reasons I hate Everton is that I had my first ever root filling on the Saturday before we played them in the cup in 95 and I associate the mind-numbing agony that entailed with them. Since then I think I've had another 3 - 2 were fine - no worse then an extraction but the other was agony as well.

Still liking the Kindle - find myself reading 3 or 4 books at once - maybe it is a little too easy to buy new ones direct from it.

A lot of the criticism (joint thing aside) seems to be that it will disengage the well-off from the welfare state with the view that if people feel "part of the system" it enhances community or something - there may be something to this but I'm not convinced. If this is true I could see this as a deliberate attempt to do just that - to again demonize everyone on benefits so you can't use the "well you're happy to get CB" view.

I spotted the deranged fucker on his bike last week heading into Liverpool St station - first "celeb" I've seen in London for ages.

I have no objection to trying to get people into work and would love it if they could end the "generations of scum" - the problem is I still can't see the neceesary jobs being created in the present climate.

I seem to remember the the Tories introducing internal markets into the NHS in the 90s - a mate of mine (who was/is a Tory) was living with a nurse at the time and described them via her as disastrous. As far as I know you can choose your GP even now (within reason) - I don't see how introducing the notion of a free market can work - you can see "We do stomach staples for fatties unlike the other lot" type of ads in some sad competetion for patients and hence resources. I and others have already said how the actual aim is to open the door to BUPA etc to "manage" surgeries for GPs leading to further selective care.

Its so the press will concentrate on that while the real cuts that hit the real poor start next Monday and will be ignored.

The joint thing is stupid. People in the office discussing this just won't be told that 45k is a huge salary to millions of people - it isn't "middle income" - the median is something like 24k which means millions earn that or less.

I have to admit feeling like an idiot for questioning his performance last week. I also admit to an old "sod reality" reaction when he sort of clashed with De Jong very late on and I was screaming "stamp on his knackers" with no thought to the suspension that would have brought.

Believing the Tories on healthcare is like believing Brian Kidd that De Jong "isn't like that". I also seriously worry about anyone who can watch Cameron and not think he's a twat - its just basic human nature imo.

Next 45 mins would be better

Another corrupt ref

I hope the way Tiote was having a word with De Jong means he's going to sort the cunt.

I'll get my complaint in about Pleat now - save me time later.

I grew up pretty much only eating peas and carrots as an accompanyment to meat - however my Mam certainly did sprouts and broccoli occasionally and I don't remember expressing a preference so I must have done so pre-memory. As an adult I've been able to eat just about everything and found nothing unpallatable so I guess my palate has changed.

Now there's a thing. This board is already divided over the Standing/Sitting arse wiper debate - can we have a show of hands for the pro-sprout crew please? Buttered with bacon… mmmmmm I find all greens questionable in terms of whether the effort of putting them in your mouth and eating them is worth it - I get the benefit argument but it still seems like hassle. I'm not a complete carrnivore - I don't mind tatties in all their form and the odd green - I used to work with a lad who was virtually meat only.