Rob W 0 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 (edited) In the last 10 years you've needed 79 - 92 points for automatic promotion In 8 seasons you'd have needed 86 or more That's a hell of an ask for this lot Edited June 6, 2009 by Rob W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I'd be more concerned about how many points you need to stay up given the present situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I honestly think the best we'll get is the playoffs, the likes of West Brom, Boro, Sheffield United, Reading etc have squads much more up to the task. I think as long as we keep a few and sign one or two we'll make the top 6 but no better than playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9034 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I don't think it'd necessarily be the best thing for us to bounce straight back. I think it'd be a false position... we need to build strong foundations and a couple of seasons in the championship will allow us to build a squad of hungry, young players who're willing to play for each other instead of just a pay packet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko 0 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dont think we will go up to be honest and if we do it certainly wont be automatic. I think even if a new owner is brought in quickly It's going to take a long time to adapt and sort out the squad. Look at QPR, the board came in with a massive ammount of money and it's still taken them a time, They didn't even make playoffs last year did they. Mid table for us next season imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted June 7, 2009 Author Share Posted June 7, 2009 I think that's fair - by the time a new owner gets in, sorts out the situation etc the transfer window will be closed as well and we'll be stuck with ecurrent dross for at least half the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I think that's fair - by the time a new owner gets in, sorts out the situation etc the transfer window will be closed as well and we'll be stuck with ecurrent dross for at least half the season Hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I'm trying to stay positive. Let's see how it pans out, eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbert Colon 0 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Its all about momentum - if we can get 75% of the league worried about playing againt us we will be ok but start badly and it could be an uphill battle to turn it round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 (edited) If we can have a new owner an the manager situation sorted by the end of the month then i feel we can do well. The alternative isn't nice to think about. Edited June 7, 2009 by 2bias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko 0 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Its all about momentum - if we can get 75% of the league worried about playing againt us we will be ok but start badly and it could be an uphill battle to turn it round The whole league will see it as a cup final and will undoubtedly raise their game. I honestly don't think any club will "fear" us next season. They've nothing to lose either way! If they lose they bring out "newcastle are the superior club and they were always expected to win" if they win it will be on of their greatest victories that season. Especially for the likes of Scunthorpe, Doncaster and Blackpool! They'll release DVD's of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbert Colon 0 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Its all about momentum - if we can get 75% of the league worried about playing againt us we will be ok but start badly and it could be an uphill battle to turn it round The whole league will see it as a cup final and will undoubtedly raise their game. I honestly don't think any club will "fear" us next season. They've nothing to lose either way! If they lose they bring out "newcastle are the superior club and they were always expected to win" if they win it will be on of their greatest victories that season. Especially for the likes of Scunthorpe, Doncaster and Blackpool! They'll release DVD's of it! I do agree with the whole fa cup final mind set but just taking the keegan promotion as experience the start did it and after that teams literally melted at sjp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 A good start is essential, the trouble is the way things are going we'll only have about a month to buy/sell players, if we're lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted June 8, 2009 Author Share Posted June 8, 2009 To me the critical thing is to try and make sure we win ALL our home games but then we need some strikers.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9034 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 To me the critical thing is to try and make sure we win ALL our home games but then we need some strikers an owner and a manager............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17857 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Its all about momentum - if we can get 75% of the league worried about playing againt us we will be ok but start badly and it could be an uphill battle to turn it round The whole league will see it as a cup final and will undoubtedly raise their game. I honestly don't think any club will "fear" us next season. They've nothing to lose either way! If they lose they bring out "newcastle are the superior club and they were always expected to win" if they win it will be on of their greatest victories that season. Especially for the likes of Scunthorpe, Doncaster and Blackpool! They'll release DVD's of it! I do agree with the whole fa cup final mind set but just taking the keegan promotion as experience the start did it and after that teams literally melted at sjp Is there any suggestion, at all, that's going to happen again? I think we need to be aiming for 65+ points to cushion the points deduction administration is going to take at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentAxeman 82 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Its all about momentum - if we can get 75% of the league worried about playing againt us we will be ok but start badly and it could be an uphill battle to turn it round The whole league will see it as a cup final and will undoubtedly raise their game. I honestly don't think any club will "fear" us next season. They've nothing to lose either way! If they lose they bring out "newcastle are the superior club and they were always expected to win" if they win it will be on of their greatest victories that season. Especially for the likes of Scunthorpe, Doncaster and Blackpool! They'll release DVD's of it! I do agree with the whole fa cup final mind set but just taking the keegan promotion as experience the start did it and after that teams literally melted at sjp Is there any suggestion, at all, that's going to happen again? I think we need to be aiming for 65+ points to cushion the points deduction administration is going to take at this rate. aye, it looks more and more like its going to happen! Fuckin Ashley!!! Boycout the Club!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbert Colon 0 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Its all about momentum - if we can get 75% of the league worried about playing againt us we will be ok but start badly and it could be an uphill battle to turn it round The whole league will see it as a cup final and will undoubtedly raise their game. I honestly don't think any club will "fear" us next season. They've nothing to lose either way! If they lose they bring out "newcastle are the superior club and they were always expected to win" if they win it will be on of their greatest victories that season. Especially for the likes of Scunthorpe, Doncaster and Blackpool! They'll release DVD's of it! I do agree with the whole fa cup final mind set but just taking the keegan promotion as experience the start did it and after that teams literally melted at sjp Is there any suggestion, at all, that's going to happen again? I think we need to be aiming for 65+ points to cushion the points deduction administration is going to take at this rate. Nope but I was being delusional and thought a quick sale and management set up was in the offing - thats that fucked then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13883 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 The general impression on Championship forums is that we will do well to finish in the top half. Some clubs are almost designed around the ability to bounce back from relegation and we aren't one of them, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 The general impression on Championship forums is that we will do well to finish in the top half. Some clubs are almost designed around the ability to bounce back from relegation and we aren't one of them, Can't help but agree with that assessment as things stand. It'd be different if a new manager could geton and sort out the squad but that doesn't look like happening atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13883 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Well there's a lot of decent teams who know the league who will be better prepared than us. Ashley is pretty much writing off next season with all the delay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 I'm sure he just want someone to pay him ASAP so he can get out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I'd be more concerned about how many points you need to stay up given the present situation. Yes that's more like it. People must be dreamimg talking about automatic promotion!! Get real! Unless things change drastically (which I doubt) We will struggle to beat alot of the teams in this league. Plus everyone will want to beat us, we have no confidence, no fight and no team spirit and poor players. I hope I'm wrong but without alot good luck and much change I'd be happy to just stay up and build from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen 0 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Can't see us bouncing back at the first time of asking unfortunately. You also need roughly 40 points just to stay in the league, even that seems like a lot at this moment in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpossiblyDaft 1 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 40? Typically the number for the Championship is 50, though admittedly there are more matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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