strawb 3720 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Oh good, it’s like starting all over with CT again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Alex said: Give me a chance to get into my iron corset next time you plan on making my sides split I can weld if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, strawb said: Oh good, it’s like starting all over with CT again This one seems far smarter than CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, strawb said: Oh good, it’s like starting all over with CT again What is CT? Excuse my ignorance, I joined today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: What is CT? Excuse my ignorance, I joined today. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: Anarcho-capitalism is zero government I'm of small/limited government It must be pretty fucking small if 'regulation' is a dirty word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: What is CT? A question for the ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) Tbh i hope this guy stays. Should improve debate considerably. It can get a bit echo chamber esque i here. Edited April 18, 2018 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, adios said: It must be pretty fucking small if 'regulation' is a dirty word. I got my politics from my grandfather, he was a treasurer for his local council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30758 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: I can weld if that helps. You’ve done it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30758 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, adios said: This one seems far smarter than CT. He does but the lack anything approaching an argument is familiar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alex said: You’ve done it again! Not even my mother appreciates my jokes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Alex said: He does but the lack anything approaching an argument is familiar I can have an argument all I like but winning an argument is another thing entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4003 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 £ back to pre Brexit levels inflation falling record employment record unemployment Boss of Goldman Sacs says he was wrong etc etc etc Happy days even before the cracking deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30758 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Subtlety You’re doing it wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 So this is CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3276 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 3 hours ago, SpaceCadet said: EU members must adhere to the ECHR and the red tape that comes with it. I am much more comfortable having elected officials doing what they're elected to do than having unelected ideological bureaucrats do it for us. The Council of Europe who created the ECHR is populated by elected officials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3276 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Christmas Tree said: £ back to pre Brexit levels inflation falling record employment record unemployment Boss of Goldman Sacs says he was wrong etc etc etc Happy days even before the cracking deal. We are pre brexit post Brexit is after we leave. Nhs in crisis due to lack of staff. No idea what the deal is yet so we still don’t know what’s going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18030 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 4 hours ago, SpaceCadet said: Nothing because as of March 2019 the ECHR should be none of our business. We're not leaving the ECHR in March 2019 or any other time soon. Mixing up the ECJ and ECHR is a pretty embarrassing mistake if you want to discuss Brexit. Sounds like you should put your prejudices aside, do some basic research, and tell us some specific laws you don't like about the ECHR or the ECJ. I've not encountered a Brexiter yet that can articulate one yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, Renton said: We're not leaving the ECHR in March 2019 or any other time soon. Mixing up the ECJ and ECHR is a pretty embarrassing mistake if you want to discuss Brexit. Sounds like you should put your prejudices aside, do some basic research, and tell us some specific laws you don't like about the ECHR or the ECJ. I've not encountered a Brexiter yet that can articulate one yet. Which prejudices do you have I have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18030 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: Which prejudices do you have I have? Well, you seem to be against the ECHR without knowing what it is. That can only arise because of an inherent bias or prejudice I'd imagine. But anyway, can you name a specific aspect of the treaty or court that you disagree with, likewise the ECJ? I just want to understand what your issue is and how Brexit will solve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26787 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 He’s basically using the same old tired, freedom/Unelected bureaucrats/blue passports argument and trying to dress it up as an educated ideology. Unfortunately there’s nothing of substance behind his arguments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Parky gimmick account tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) Rules and regulations and the ECJ are not my biggest gripe, my issue is with centralised power. I said this from the beginning. I would be happy for the Scottish, Welsh and N. Irish parliament to have more influence within the union on decisions that effect them for the same reason. Edited April 18, 2018 by SpaceCadet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18030 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: Rules and regulations and the ECJ are not my biggest gripe, my issue is with centralised power. I said this from the beginning. I would be happy for the Scottish, Welsh and N. Irish parliament to have more influence within the union on decisions that effect them for the same reason. So, you cant think of a single example of a law or treaty that disbenefits you then? Would you agree that it is an inarguable fact we live in globalised world, like it or not? And in such a world, we need laws and treaties that span nation states? Well in fact that's all the ECJ is. WTO is another much less democratic example. Using your logic of localism, why stop at sovereignty at UK level or English level? Perhaps the NE should be independent. Why not Newcastle? Why not Tynemouth? What about my street, house, or even me? Sounds silly right? Actually, the world has always advanced by uniting, the EU is the latest example. Being in a mutually beneficial union makes us powerful. You can be proud to be Northumbrian, English, British, AND European all at the same time, they're not mutually exclusive concepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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