Andrew 4304 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rayvin said: What about the pensioners who voted to Leave? Also, haven't the demographics for this been broken down already? They have 60% of 65+ year olds voted leave. 57% of 55-64s did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18324 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rayvin said: What about the pensioners who voted to Leave? Also, haven't the demographics for this been broken down already? Yes, it's all out there. It was OAPs and their triple locked Tory pensions what won it, innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 58 minutes ago, Rayvin said: What about the pensioners who voted to Leave? Also, haven't the demographics for this been broken down already? yes, 100% of cunts voted to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36207 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Labour have released their new code of conduct on antisemitism: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9038 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Without wanting to deny any of the national responsibility for the cause but is 80 years since more or less showed fleeing Jews the cold shoulder .., https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Évian_Conference we came a long way since then internationally since then but I fear the last couple of years and the handling of immigration and refugee crisises morally threw us back to the 1930s tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 27144 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 How much of those claiming asylum from Africa are at genuine risk of persecution? And how long does it take to process their claims? It’s an area in which I’m fairly ignorant but I do believe it should be an EU wide problem rather than Italy’s alone. Internationally, I think Germany’s moral standing increased massively because of their handling of the Syrian refugee crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: How much of those claiming asylum from Africa are at genuine risk of persecution? And how long does it take to process their claims? It’s an area in which I’m fairly ignorant but I do believe it should be an EU wide problem rather than Italy’s alone. Internationally, I think Germany’s moral standing increased massively because of their handling of the Syrian refugee crisis. Not with their own people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9038 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 47 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Not with their own people. We do have our own bunch of xenophobic taxi drivers unfortunately. as much as the system does get exploited by a lot of migrants every person fleeing for legit reasons is worth the moral high ground. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 44 minutes ago, Isegrim said: We do have our own bunch of xenophobic taxi drivers unfortunately. as much as the system does get exploited by a lot of migrants every person fleeing for legit reasons is worth the moral high ground. I’m just going off recent elections. Must have a lot of taxi drivers over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9038 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: I’m just going off recent elections. Must have a lot of taxi drivers over there. Taxi drivers racist twats, whatever you want to call them. recent elections actually proved that decent people are still forming the majority. But recent polls did indeed show a majority being unhappy with current politics regarding immigrants. The amount of people it knowing what they are talking about - or voting for- is a shocking as in other countries shifting to the far right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 53 minutes ago, Isegrim said: Taxi drivers racist twats, whatever you want to call them. recent elections actually proved that decent people are still forming the majority. But recent polls did indeed show a majority being unhappy with current politics regarding immigrants. The amount of people it knowing what they are talking about - or voting for- is a shocking as in other countries shifting to the far right People not wanting unlimited immigration does not make them racist. Labelling them all as far right is just plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 27144 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Sounds like the sort of thing a racist would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 *sighs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36207 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 KKKhristmas Tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: People not wanting unlimited immigration does not make them racist. Labelling them all as far right is just plain stupid. This is a fair point and something we liberals seem to have lost our way on. We're not doing enough to stand up to the increasing intolerance on our side. The problem with the majority of the right (and probably the left tbf) will be that they are emotionally blind to the nuances of the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 27144 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, adios said: This is a fair point and something we liberals seem to have lost our way on. We're not doing enough to stand up to the increasing intolerance on our side. The problem with the majority of the right (and probably the left tbf) will be that they are emotionally blind to the nuances of the debate. Of course they are, there’s no difference in EU and non-EU immigrants. Economic migrants and asylum seekers. We just need to control our borders. Even though we already do much more than nearly anyone else in the EU and rely on immigration to keep our economy growing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 So anyone who voted Leave on immigration grounds is a dyed-in-the-wool racist and not merely misinformed, angry or ignorant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18324 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, adios said: So anyone who voted Leave on immigration grounds is a dyed-in-the-wool racist and not merely misinformed, angry or ignorant? Tbf CT doesn't come across as angry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9038 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 38 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: People not wanting unlimited immigration does not make them racist. Labelling them all as far right is just plain stupid. I did say "shifting to the far right". There is an increasing number of people not distinguishing between the different variantions of immigration and its causes. It is rather becoming "four legs good, two legs bad" for a lot. So it is not all of them, but a worrying number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 27144 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, adios said: So anyone who voted Leave on immigration grounds is a dyed-in-the-wool racist and not merely misinformed, angry or ignorant? Aren’t all racists misinformed, angry and ignorant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Tubbs is going to be very, very confused by that reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, ewerk said: Aren’t all racists misinformed, angry and ignorant? But are all misinformed, angry or ignorant people racists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 27144 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I didn’t say that. I was agreeing with you above by pointing out some of the nuances in immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Oh. Fuck you, I wanted to have an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 27144 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I sensed that. Go with God with peace in your heart, my son. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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