Gemmill 63116 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) No worse for them than listening to Jonathan Gullis. Edited September 5 by Gemmill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 16161 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 12 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Boris planning his comeback presumably... It wasn't to disrupt PMQs it was to drown out the cries of the ghosts of children molested in the commons down the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12368 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) Dorries joining Reform. Imagine Rees-Mogg and Johnson are hot on her tails then. Edited September 5 by Craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8347 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 If they go then Farage really has destroyed the Tories. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39193 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12368 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 She's quit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8347 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Yep, feels like the only direction it was moving in. Maybe she'd have gotten away with it if she wasn't responsible for housing but as it is... hard to argue with where we've ended up on it. It doesn't really make any difference anyway tbh, she's not exactly someone who was going to change the destiny of the party over the coming few years. None of them are. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42142 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 The usual suspects will now drone on about what a disaster it because they’ll actually be gutted this hasn’t been drawn out for another few weeks. Feel for her. She seems decent enough. I think she’ll be back well before the next election too. Agree with Rayvin in the sense none of this seems to really matter very much 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12368 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 I think the key element was she only looked into it in the wake of 'intense public scrutiny'. It's because of this that's she'd rightly been considered to have breached the ministerial code which has to result in resignation. Badenoch can fuck right off though - already released a pre-recorded video attacking Starmer's weakness in not dealing with the matter until the report was received. Whilst I think he is indeed weak, she's conveniently overlooking the whole "we will wait for Sue Gray's report..." mantra under a government in her party's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12368 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, Alex said: The usual suspects will now drone on about what a disaster it because they’ll actually be gutted this hasn’t been drawn out for another few weeks. Feel for her. She seems decent enough. I think she’ll be back well before the next election too. Agree with Rayvin in the sense none of this seems to really matter very much Political point-scoring for point-scoring sake. If Badenoch had anything about her, she wouldn't need to be as reliant on stuff like this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22469 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Labour can't put taxes up across the board then make excuses when one of the cabinet dodges 40k, intentionally or not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Craig 12368 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, PaddockLad said: Labour can't put taxes up across the board then make excuses when one of the cabinet dodges 40k, intentionally or not I don't think they have though. There's a difference between making excuses and explaining how you've arrived at a situation. Her mistake is that she only acted in the face of intense public scrutiny - presumably suggests that if no-one had said anything, she'd have carried on regardless. She referred herself, the report has deduced she's broken the code, she's resigned. 'making excuses' would be trying to remain in post after the report. Tories will be fuming that she's done the right thing in the face of her mistake - hence why Badenoch is now going for Starmer for weak leadership. Disagree he's done anything wrong there BTW - the process exists to independently mediate and prevent emotive action. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22469 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, Craig said: I don't think they have though. There's a difference between making excuses and explaining how you've arrived at a situation. Her mistake is that she only acted in the face of intense public scrutiny - presumably suggests that if no-one had said anything, she'd have carried on regardless. She referred herself, the report has deduced she's broken the code, she's resigned. 'making excuses' would be trying to remain in post after the report. Tories will be fuming that she's done the right thing in the face of her mistake - hence why Badenoch is now going for Starmer for weak leadership. Disagree he's done anything wrong there BTW - the process exists to independently mediate and prevent emotive action. Yeah there was enquiry into Pritti Patel's behavior towards her colleagues and Johnson's advisor on ethics advised she was a workplace bully. Johnson just ignored the report and his advisor resigned because of it. The Tories think we can't remember shit like that. There was that carry on about Rayner's Stockport home too. I think the Tories friends in the press have been gunning for her since day one. Not sure if most MPs have skeletons like this but they seemed to smell blood about Rayner very early... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12368 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: I think the Tories friends in the press have been gunning for her since day one. Not sure if most MPs have skeletons like this but they seemed to smell blood about Rayner very early... Aye, because they see her as a threat. Farage is the same - they fear Rayner because he's a risk to them getting what they want. He's about to speak - and brought his speech forward, no doubt will try to eviscerate her. Agree with Alex - she WILL be back at some point, potentially even as Starmer's successor. Edited September 5 by Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63116 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 It was a mistake and a shame it's cost her her minister's job. She'll be alreet though, I mean she could afford an £800k second property on a minister's salary.... 🧐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12368 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 So Farage's angle of attack on Labour is to weaponise Corbyn & Sultana to create division. Says a lot about what inroads into the Labour vote he believes he can encourage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12368 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 And now he's suggesting a cabinet made up of unelected ministers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 13463 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Luckily Farage always pays his fair share of tax https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8347 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 28 minutes ago, Craig said: So Farage's angle of attack on Labour is to weaponise Corbyn & Sultana to create division. Says a lot about what inroads into the Labour vote he believes he can encourage. What does this mean sorry, who does he think he'll take from Labour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12368 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 12 minutes ago, Rayvin said: What does this mean sorry, who does he think he'll take from Labour? That's the point, he doesn't. He's referencing Corbyn's new, and so far unnamed party will split the Labour vote down the middle. In other words he's largely accepting that centre-ground, which is crucial to commander if you've any desire to win an GE, is out of reach for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12368 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Openly admitted he brought forward his 'keynote speech' to avoid it clashing with the expected announcement of a cabinet reshuffle later today - such the outright confidence he has in stealing the limelight. Instead of going head-to-head with the government, he elects instead to be bookended by two announcements they've made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27764 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, PaddockLad said: Yeah there was enquiry into Pritti Patel's behavior towards her colleagues and Johnson's advisor on ethics advised she was a workplace bully. Johnson just ignored the report and his advisor resigned because of it. The Tories think we can't remember shit like that. There was that carry on about Rayner's Stockport home too. I think the Tories friends in the press have been gunning for her since day one. Not sure if most MPs have skeletons like this but they seemed to smell blood about Rayner very early... That's what I don't get. After the Stockport stuff, you'd imagine you'd be hypervigilant of these financial issues. I want her gone for being at best grossly naive, at worst duplicitous combined with incompetence. Anyway, she's found to break code, she's gone. Badenoch just looks increasingly vindictive and pathetic. She's like the school tell tale grass, not a good look. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27764 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: It was a mistake and a shame it's cost her her minister's job. She'll be alreet though, I mean she could afford an £800k second property on a minister's salary.... 🧐 There was some silly old boot yesterday from her constituency who claimed she was pissed off as she was was poor but still had to pay inheritance tax on her mums estate. You what? You're not poor if you have to pay inheritance tax you mare. Everything is relative I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63116 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 I'd be delighted to have the opportunity to pay tax on an inheritance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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