Politics

[Renton 17841]

Amp excerptThis brief snippet from the Guardian about the tory conference hits the nail on the head in one sentence.

 

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Rafael Behr describes the conference as “a festival of complaint about the condition of Britain undisturbed by contrition for having presided over its decline”.

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The spectacle that has unfolded in Manchester this week is not just the endgame of a tired government. It is the late stages of moral and intellectual putrefaction. It is a once great party, hollowed out by a parasitical protest movement, collapsing into a parody of itself.

Except nothing about it is funny for as long as the Conservatives are still in office and able to dictate the terms of national debate. There is something corrosive of democracy in the obligation to take seriously a party that has given up on serious government. And there is something disturbing about a regime that is too ridiculous to trust with power yet is too powerful to be written off with ridicule.

 

 

Edited October 4, 2023 by Renton

[Alex 30492]

The mortgage thing is still going to massively impact in their support as Renton alludes to. They’re so out of touch they’re brushed it aside. But tens of thousands of fixed rate deals run out every week, resulting in more and more people being several hundred pounds a month out of pocket. None of the culture war shite is going to scratch the surface compared to that. 

[Rayvin 4964]

I agree they're fucked tbh.

 

Which I'm glad about given my intentions for this election. A 'have my cake and eat it' moment as far as voting outcomes go - I get to be a naive, principled twat without it costing anyone anything  

[Renton 17841]

 

I have commissioned a toontastic Word Cloud of my own as it happens, here it is:

 

CUNTSBest PM of my lifetime

 

[Renton 17841]

This speech is an absolute master class in double speak. It really is quite incredible, it makes the mackem message board look sane. 

HS2 officially cancelled north of Birmingham, £36 billion quid to be spent on potholes. 

Edited October 4, 2023 by Renton

[NJS 3986]

44 years of Thatcherism hasn't quite worked so the cure is... Thatcherism. 

[ewerk 26513]

They’re banning smoking for future generations. I can definitely see this working and certainly not creating a massive black market.

[Renton 17841]

Progresssive age ban on smoking (stolen NZ policy I believe). That sounds a bit nanny state WOKE. 

Edit: he's just claimed by doing this he has cut cancer deaths by a quarter! He's fucking tapped. 

Edited October 4, 2023 by Renton

[Rayvin 4964]

I support the principle behind it but it does sound unworkable.

[Monkeys Fist 38872]

Braverman already looks like a bulldog chewing wasps- if she becomes the next leader after Sunak fucks off to count his wife’s money, she’s going to look like a punched-in ringpiece sitting on the Opposition bench. 
 

 

Bring it on. 

[Renton 17841]

I thought his slur on Sturgeon was particularly disgusting, way to piss off a large number of Scots. If anyone should be in prison it should be Johnson and possibly Sunak too, considering what is currently coming out of Whitty's diaries. Not ONE bit of the speech was about the cost of living crisis, which is quite incredible really. 

 

 

[PaddockLad 14645]

 

[Renton 17841]

Brilliant. 

[Renton 17841]

2 hours ago, Rayvin said:

I support the principle behind it but it does sound unworkable.

 

I think it is emminently workable and is a very good policy. I reject his claim that it will prevent 25% of cancers though, and was surprised because I thought it would wind up the right of his party. It already has. Truss has at least 50 MPs behind her so one of the "key" policies jug ears announced is already a dead duck.

 

 

 

[Gemmill 34693]

 

 

 

All of it. The way she thinks she's dropping profound fucking science. But especially the way she signs off at the end with the fingerpointing.

 

These are fucking weird, weeeeeeird people.

 

 

 

[Rayvin 4964]

What in the fuck is that speech. Where has that even come from, who the fuck are we meant to be fighting?

 

Also she heavily over uses the 'stand up and fight bit' in the middle of that to the point of just being comical.

 

They're just painful, they really are.

[Renton 17841]

3 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

 

All of it. The way she thinks she's dropping profound fucking science. But especially the way she signs off at the end with the fingerpointing.

 

These are fucking weird, weeeeeeird people.

 

 

 

 

Toe curling. And she's supposed to be a normal one. I long for the days May danced into the rooms and her background fell down. These people decide our futures ffs . 

 

 

[ewerk 26513]

13 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

Also she heavily over uses the 'stand up and fight bit' in the middle of that to the point of just being comical.

 

If the TV director had any sort of sense of humour he'd have cut to the disabled section at that point.

[Alex 30492]

Talking about the iron fist of socialism whilst using Orwellian rhetoric  the other irony over the ‘fight’ thing is that Mourdant is one of the ones who claims military service by having a period of time in which she was a naval reservist. And, iirc, for most of the time she was officially classed as a reservist she didn’t actually do any training or serve any time, because she used her political career an an excuse to be granted an exemption. And even before that it was just at a training base. Then when she left she was given an honorary role. Like most of the twats who fetishise that sort of thing, she’d be nowhere to be seen if push came to shove. 

Edited October 4, 2023 by Alex

[Billy Whitehurst 791]

9 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

If the TV director had any sort of sense of humour he'd have cut to the disabled section at that point.

That would be the entire audience.

 

Not all disabilities are visible.

[ewerk 26513]

 

[Renton 17841]

Ouch, this is quite scathing from the greatest PM of our life-times. Meanwhile I see that Street is doing the modern tory thing, being a coward.

 

 

 

[Alex 30492]

10 minutes ago, Renton said:

Ouch, this is quite scathing from the greatest PM of our life-times. Meanwhile I see that Street is doing the modern tory thing, being a coward.

 

 

 

Well it’s in no small part to the Brexit he enabled. Because that’s a fucking huge factor in how we got where we are and how his party was taken over by the lunatic fringe. The very issue he created then ran way from. Not that I disagree with what he’s saying 

[Renton 17841]

Fully agree, the choice of words though was designed to do damage. But I think its another illustration Sunak is fucked because you have "moderates" on the left side of his party (relatively speaking of course)  and extreme right wing nut jobs on the right of him. There can be no unifying candidate in this party, not now, not after the GE, and maybe not ever. A long spell in the wilderness awaits them if Labour hold it together. And yet again, it illustrates why we need PR. Neither main party can represent all its members or voters. 

Edited October 4, 2023 by Renton

[Renton 17841]

And....

 

 

Not to mention the 10 year A1 saga.