Rayvin 4964 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, Renton said: Ahh, you mean a cliff edge Brexit? Too late. I mean like the price of everyone's Christmas dinner going through the roof. The public are too stupid for anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17817 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: I mean like the price of everyone's Christmas dinner going through the roof. The public are too stupid for anything else. That won't happen until after Brexit. Tbh although I'm worried, I'm still relatively sanguine. NI will stop hard Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Whenever you feel yourself setting high expectations for politicians, it’s time to re-watch The Thick of It. Btw, apparently Malcolm Tucker was based largely on Harvey Weinstein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19834 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, Christmas Tree said: Whenever you feel yourself setting high expectations for politicians, it’s time to re-watch The Thick of It. Btw, apparently Malcolm Tucker was based largely on Harvey Weinstein. alistair campbell innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: alistair campbell innit? Thats what I thought but not so according to Capaldi. ”Harvey Weinstein and the team at Miramax were long celebrated for Malcolm-like behaviour, so in fact they were the people I thought about. That was the model I took, rather than Alastair Campbell, as I didn’t know him. Edited November 23, 2017 by Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30442 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I was hoping CT was taking the mick but you can never be sure with that much stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19834 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Apparently the entourage take on weinstein was fairly accurate (minus the sexual harassment). A monumental cunt, basically, and probably not as funny as Malcom Tucker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 hour ago, ewerk said: Yes but people don't generally pay attention to what Corbyn has to say. His post-Budget reaction was his chance to be heard. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/23/jeremy-corbyn-brexit-tories-labour-eu Guardian seem to think he hammered her in PMQs... that the press largely ignore this is kind of my original point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26433 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I had read that but it was always going to be overshadowed by the budget. He knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Well, I guess so - but he does at least seem to be trying to tackle the government's handling of the whole thing now. The thing is, I don't believe he's a quick thinker, so a rapid response is perhaps not likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14059 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 This gets to the nub of the issue when it comes to achieving some kind of critical mass for exiting Brexit - humans just aren't great at admitting when they've been duped. https://thepinprick.com/2017/11/22/how-long-will-it-take-leave-voters-to-accept-they-were-conned-by-the-brexit-spivs/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30442 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I've thought that for while like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I thought this was a pretty good speech and response tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: I thought this was a pretty good speech and response tbh. I struggle to watch him tbh. Far too shouty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I feel the same way about May every time she attempts to be funny tbh. Makes me die inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30442 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I feel the same way about May every time she attempts to be funny tbh. Makes me die inside. I think it has the same effect on her 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Also just noted this: Earnings estimated at below 2008 levels by 2022: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/23/uk-no-earnings-growth-budget-brexit-productivity-ifs This. Is. A. Shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19834 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: I struggle to watch him tbh. Far too shouty i think the points he make about how the numbers of homeless - in particular homeless children - deserves to be shouted about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30442 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Tory in not wanting to listen to uncomfortable truths shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17817 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Also just noted this: Earnings estimated at below 2008 levels by 2022: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/23/uk-no-earnings-growth-budget-brexit-productivity-ifs This. Is. A. Shambles. That report headlined the BBC news website, stuff like this surely has to make people think. The near catastrophic predictions by the OBR yesterday didn't even fully factor in Brexit. It's actually getting quite scary now how the country is falling apart. We've been on a downward trajectory from the day the Tories got in. Slightly tempered by the coalition but now in full on self destruct mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, Renton said: That report headlined the BBC news website, stuff like this surely has to make people think. The near catastrophic predictions by the OBR yesterday didn't even fully factor in Brexit. It's actually getting quite scary now how the country is falling apart. We've been on a downward trajectory from the day the Tories got in. Slightly tempered by the coalition but now in full on self destruct mode. This bit doesn't get brought up enough IMO. The disaster we're now seeing is fully of their making now. Whatever they can blame on previous administrations, they've had well over long enough to demonstrate that their ideas work, and are simply failing. The only area they appear to have done well in is job creation, but we all know that this is a sham created by zero hours contracts and the gig economy anyway. No competence in their party whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i think the points he make about how the numbers of homeless - in particular homeless children - deserves to be shouted about. Subject matter is important but his delivery is a turn off and reduces his audience. He can come across very well when he’s interviewed but struggles terribly in the commons. Personally think he’d harm the government more if he slowed down his delivery and volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30442 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Renton said: That report headlined the BBC news website, stuff like this surely has to make people think. The near catastrophic predictions by the OBR yesterday didn't even fully factor in Brexit. It's actually getting quite scary now how the country is falling apart. We've been on a downward trajectory from the day the Tories got in. Slightly tempered by the coalition but now in full on self destruct mode. I think it's enough to make enough people think. There's a rump of morons / cunts / both who'll remain utterly unmoved and insist they're right and it's all lies etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30442 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Subject matter is important but his delivery is a turn off and reduces his audience. He can come across very well when he’s interviewed but struggles terribly in the commons. Personally think he’d harm the government more if he slowed down his delivery and volume. Do you think he'd harm the government as much as every time May opens her mouth though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17817 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 From Rayvin's link "Earlier this month, the IFS said welfare cuts already in the pipeline affecting households with young families would mean the number of children living in poverty soaring by 1 million to a record 5.2 million over the next five years" What type of Uber cunt would you have to be to support a government that allows policies to result in this? Oh.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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