The Cricket Thread

[Alex 38156]

Nah (hope I'm wrong like)

 

[Dr Gloom 24485]

even if we can get another 100+ runs on the board tomorrow? 

 

....or is the best we can hope for from perth a draw?

 

i've said it before: this aussie side has some decent bowlers but they're really not that special. will they crumble under substantial scoreboard pressure? 

 

assuming we can get there. it's the first day england have won with the bat all series. england are still well capable of crumbling to 350 from this position

Edited December 14, 2017 by Dr Gloom

[Ken 119]

  On 14/12/2017 at 10:25, Dr Gloom said:

Brilliant knock by Malan. Have we got a series on our hands after all?

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No.

[Ken 119]

  On 14/12/2017 at 11:38, Dr Gloom said:

even if we can get another 100+ runs on the board tomorrow? 

 

....or is the best we can hope for from perth a draw?

 

i've said it before: this aussie side has some decent bowlers but they're really not that special. will they crumble under substantial scoreboard pressure? 

 

assuming we can get there. it's the first day england have won with the bat all series. england are still well capable of crumbling to 350 from this position

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Yes, this is the most likely scenario.

[Dr Gloom 24485]

  On 14/12/2017 at 12:22, Ken said:

No.

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you're probably right, but let's see. we're talking about two very ordinary sides. i still think your lot have a capitulation in them before the series is done. hopefully while it's still alive. 

[Ken 119]

  On 14/12/2017 at 12:27, Dr Gloom said:

 

you're probably right, but let's see. we're talking about two very ordinary sides. i still think your lot have a capitulation in them before the series is done. hopefully while it's still alive. 

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Yeah, but yours is more ordinary, having said that let's not get into a debate about who is more shitter though this time.

 

The pitch is flat and batting friendly, no sideways movement. There are a few cracks which could bake and open up on the fifth day which could be interesting, but you are still a bowler short I reckon.

 

I always feel somewhat let down when the boxing day test is a dead rubber so putting up a fight at the WACA is something which I am finding interesting.

[David Kelly 1434]

Good to see some batsmen (Stoneman and Malan) gut it out under pressure.  I think them two look like they could be decent test players.  Vince not so much.  Stoneman needs to learn how to get out the way of bouncers (not the dog from neighbours) though or he'll never get a century against the Aussies.

[Dr Gloom 24485]

  On 14/12/2017 at 12:35, Ken said:

Yeah, but yours is more ordinary, having said that let's not get into a debate about who is more shitter though this time.

 

The pitch is flat and batting friendly, no sideways movement. There are a few cracks which could bake and open up on the fifth day which could be interesting, but you are still a bowler short I reckon.

 

I always feel somewhat let down when the boxing day test is a dead rubber so putting up a fight at the WACA is something which I am finding interesting.

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Agree to a point. We’re both less shit than the other in home conditions.

 

i think you’re probably right about the pitch flattering our batsmen this test. At least  the newbies have dug in again while the likes of cook and root failed. 

 

But scoreboard pressure does funny things and I reckon you’ve got a collapse in you - even in benign conditions. If we can chalk up 500+ runs, who knows what will happen.

[Alex 38156]

  On 14/12/2017 at 13:38, David Kelly said:

Good to see some batsmen (Stoneman and Malan) gut it out under pressure.  I think them two look like they could be decent test players.  Vince not so much.  Stoneman needs to learn how to get out the way of bouncers (not the dog from neighbours) though or he'll never get a century against the Aussies.

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Would like to see Hameed back in the side at some point and Stoneman at 3, Root at 4, with Malan at 5. Bring Stokes back at 6 and it suddenly looks like a pretty strong batting lineup (so long as Malan and Stoneman continue to look the part).

[Ken 119]

  On 14/12/2017 at 13:50, Dr Gloom said:

 

Agree to a point. We’re both less shit than the other in home conditions.

 

i think you’re probably right about the pitch flattering our batsmen this test. At least  the newbies have dug in again while the likes of cook and root failed. 

 

But scoreboard pressure does funny things and I reckon you’ve got a collapse in you - even in benign conditions. If we can chalk up 500+ runs, who knows what will happen.

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Well, I think we could challenge you in yours, but we'll agree to disagree until another day.

 

I am not attempting to denigrate England's efforts today. The pitch was hard and the ball bounced and went through fast and Stoneman and Malan have stood up to it. I said Stoneman had a bit about him after the first test but Malan's ton today was impressive. He can handle it in Australia, and so too Stoneman if he can stay focused.

 

I don't want to see a whitewash tbh. 3-0 going into the boxing day test is a letdown for all supporters of cricket. So I hope England continue to make a game of it and carry on after a strong first day to make it intersting.

[Alex 38156]

Australia definitely have a better bowling attack (even allowing for conditions). Especially with Wood, Roland-Jones and Finn unavailable (although Wood will probably play in the next two tests). Australia's batsmen would stuggle in English conditions I reckon.

[Ken 119]

  On 14/12/2017 at 14:10, Alex said:

Australia definitely have a better bowling attack (even allowing for conditions). Especially with Wood, Roland-Jones and Finn unavailable (although Wood will probably play in the next two tests). Australia's batsmen would stuggle in English conditions I reckon.

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We're getting closer to a serious challenge in your conditions now.

[Dr Gloom 24485]

  On 14/12/2017 at 14:10, Alex said:

Australia definitely have a better bowling attack (even allowing for conditions). Especially with Wood, Roland-Jones and Finn unavailable (although Wood will probably play in the next two tests). Australia's batsmen would stuggle in English conditions I reckon.

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oooh, i dunno like. an overcast day in trent bridge with the ball hooping around, i reckon our attack could exploit the conditions better.

 

one thing is clear though - their spinner is leagues ahead of ours. 

 

 

 

[Dr Gloom 24485]

  On 14/12/2017 at 14:18, Ken said:

We're getting closer to a serious challenge in your conditions now.

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i doubt it, but let's see what happens in a couple of years, when it'll be getting on for 20 years since you last won an ashes series in england. 

[Alex 38156]

  On 14/12/2017 at 14:18, Ken said:

We're getting closer to a serious challenge in your conditions now.

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Bowling attack maybe. The batsmen will be less experienced in English conditions than last time round (when you were supposed to win easily). The lack of tour matches and players not getting county cricket experience means it'll be tough for any touring Australian side. T20's seen to that for the foreseeable.

[Ken 119]

  On 14/12/2017 at 15:11, Alex said:

Bowling attack maybe. The batsmen will be less experienced in English conditions than last time round (when you were supposed to win easily). The lack of tour matches and players not getting county cricket experience means it'll be tough for any touring Australian side. T20's seen to that for the foreseeable.

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Possibly. We'll see when the time comes.

[Alex 38156]

  On 14/12/2017 at 15:22, Ken said:

Possibly. We'll see when the time comes.

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It's getting a bit daft though, don't you think. It's become the biennial swapping of the urn ceremony instead of a fierce contest

[Ken 119]

  On 14/12/2017 at 15:42, Alex said:

It's getting a bit daft though, don't you think. It's become the biennial swapping of the urn ceremony instead of a fierce contest

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Yes and no tbh. We dominated from 1989 until 2002-03 so that is an argument that the status of play should remain. What you acheived afterwards is a reflection of that as well. Test match cricket is test match cricket. Do you propose something different?

[Alex 38156]

  On 14/12/2017 at 16:16, Ken said:

Yes and no tbh. We dominated from 1989 until 2002-03 so that is an argument that the status of play should remain. What you acheived afterwards is a reflection of that as well. Test match cricket is test match cricket. Do you propose something different?

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Nah, it's inevitable I think.

[Gemmill 53457]

Shite from Ali. 

[Ken 119]

Cracks opening up on the pitch already and it is only day 2. There may be a result in this game after all. Before this started I expected multiple declarations in the game. 

[Ken 119]

  On 15/12/2017 at 03:56, Gemmill said:

Shite from Ali. 

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What are you doing up btw? 

Are you doing an all-nighter?

 

[Gemmill 53457]

  On 15/12/2017 at 04:30, Ken said:

What are you doing up btw? 

Are you doing an all-nighter?

 

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I'm too sexy for my bed, Ken. 

Edited December 15, 2017 by Gemmill

[Dr Gloom 24485]

Shame we haven’t batted them out of the game but I would have taken 400 at the start.

[Alex 38156]

Not enough runs on the board unfortunately