Dr Gloom 19872 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) now michael clarke comes out saying we're weaker without peitersen too don't worry though lads, the ecb know more than the opposition captain about who they'll fear playing most. Edited May 19, 2015 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30516 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 He's obviously on the wind up as he said he got on well with KP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19872 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 He's obviously on the wind up as he said he got on well with KP. possibly, but i doubt he's lying and i imagine he is pleased KP isn't in the side. whatever you think of KP, he is one of england's only proven world class, destructive batsmen. yes, he can gift away his wicket cheaply but he's the wicket most opposition bowlers value chalking up most because of how dangerous he is when he gets in. who else can take a game away from the opposition like KP can in the current set up? Buttler maybe but he's far from proven. i suppose root can get into one day mode if there are runs on the board, playing at number 5, but the rest of them are touch players and accumulators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30516 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Said that as a bit of a joke and I do think he's on the wind-up a bit. I also agree he'll be pleased KP isn't going to be playing (especially with the form he's in). KP must be the only common factor in all England's Ashes wins since the 80s, come to think of it. Well, him and Michael Clarke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2431 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Said that as a bit of a joke and I do think he's on the wind-up a bit. I think it's definitely a case of trying to stick the boot in but it's also the absolute truth. As an Aussie who watches a lot of cricket I can honestly say I'm glad KP isn't playing for your lot. Will be interesting to see what happens if Bell continues to struggle to score runs. I wouldn't be surprised if England pick KP for the first test against Australia after getting beaten 2-0 by the Kiwis. All this talk about KP though is at least distracting from England's complete lack of anything approaching a decent bowling lineup. Unless it reverses from over 20 every innings your lot are going to be chasing alot of leather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30516 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I think it's definitely a case of trying to stick the boot in but it's also the absolute truth. As an Aussie who watches a lot of cricket I can honestly say I'm glad KP isn't playing for your lot. Will be interesting to see what happens if Bell continues to struggle to score runs. I wouldn't be surprised if England pick KP for the first test against Australia after getting beaten 2-0 by the Kiwis. All this talk about KP though is at least distracting from England's complete lack of anything approaching a decent bowling lineup. Unless it reverses from over 20 every innings your lot are going to be chasing alot of leather. Well I certainly think there's a canny chance of getting beat off NZ anyway. Doesn't appear to be any chance of KP coming back though with Strauss getting the role at the ECB though. Re: the bowling, Broad looked to be getting back to something like his best in the Windies and Anderson showed he can still do it. I think your bowling line-up is definitely better but English conditions may suit us a bit more. A lack of a quality spinner is an issue because, as Swann recently pointed out, the drainage systems all the test grounds now have means the pitches are so dry and will all turn from about day 3. We missed the boat giving Adil Rashid a try in the Carribean because Cook and Moores were too concerned about picking a side not to lose to try and keep their respective jobs. Which, if nothing else, should act as a reminder that safety first rarely works even in the 5-day game now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2431 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Yeah you're probably right about the ECB/Straus v KP. But you never know. They've taken such a hit to their credibility publicly that they may just pick KP in a desperate effort to garner some positivity. I don't know. I'm just wouldn't be surprised if KP plays Test cricket this summer (your summer). I'll defer to your judgement on England's seamers. I didn't follow the EngvWI series all that closely. Not beating WI is a worry though. On the England spinner. England cannot rely on Treadwell or M. Ali to bowl them to victory in the second innings. Maybe Treadwell can tie down an end but that's about it I reckon. Cook does seem like the conservative type naturally and he has only gotten worse as the side and his own form has deteriorated. I completely agree that, in all forms of cricket nowadays, fortune favours the brave. That's why the likes of McCullum and Clarke are considered quality captains. Cook, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19872 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I think it's definitely a case of trying to stick the boot in but it's also the absolute truth. As an Aussie who watches a lot of cricket I can honestly say I'm glad KP isn't playing for your lot. Will be interesting to see what happens if Bell continues to struggle to score runs. I wouldn't be surprised if England pick KP for the first test against Australia after getting beaten 2-0 by the Kiwis. All this talk about KP though is at least distracting from England's complete lack of anything approaching a decent bowling lineup. Unless it reverses from over 20 every innings your lot are going to be chasing alot of leather. agreed. i don't buy into the current approach of playing two all rounders to deepen the batting line up - jordon or stokes for me, not both. bowlers win games. we need a genuine wicket-taking alternative to jimmy and broad. a hit the deck bowler would be good. moeen ali is no graeme swann either. it's not looking good for the summer with the current ultra-conservative approach to selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19872 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) we won the last home ashes series by preparing spin friendly pitches to suit swann and exploit the aussie's lack of a front-line spinner of any class. i wouldn't want to rely on moeen ali bowling us to victory. i can see a few of the aussie lads going after him early on in the series to try to kill his confidence. Edited May 20, 2015 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2431 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Yeah. They'll definitely try to smash him everywhere. Right on the two all rounders and batting to no. 9 too. Scoring 400 every innings means very little if you can't bowl a side out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9266 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Scoring 400 every innings Even batting to 11, with not bowlers, we can't get 400 these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19872 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 aye, you obviously haven't watched many england test matches lately. we rarely make it past 400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2431 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 It was more a figure of speech. 2/25 Solid start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19872 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Lythe looks ok for his 7, got a good ball. Didn't see the other wicket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 25/3 Fucking hell man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19872 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Three down. Good job there are no trust issues in the dressing room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2431 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 What no. is Trust batting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2431 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 4 down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19872 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 And so the public outcry for KP begins. The ECB could have easily avoided the situation that is about to develop and overshadow the entire summer. Muppets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19872 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 The ECB and Mike Ashley should think about a joint venture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Fucking awful this. I was hoping to spend Monday hungover watching the final day. Might have to do that Saturday now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30516 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 The mackems, I mean Aussies, reveling is this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19872 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 fight back from Stokes with fours in consecutive deliveries. He's playing higher up the order than he should because Moeen Ali was having a net, not expecting to have to take strike so early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2431 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 The mackems, I mean Aussies, reveling is this. I'll have you know I'm a Kiwi when NZ are playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2431 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'm just following the score on cricinfo. What's the pitch like? Is it swinging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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