Dr Gloom 19826 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Interesting article on how he's bullshitted his whole life on how much he's worth http://mobile.nytimes.com/2005/10/23/business/yourmoney/whats-he-really-worth.html?_r=0&referer= good read, thanks for sharing. president-elect/professional bullshit artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30433 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 The perfect man for the post-fact era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Fucking manchild. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/donald-trump-murdoch-ailes-nbc-816131 What was the last thing you apologized for? It was too many years ago to remember. I have one of the great memories of all time, but it was too long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26394 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.viNELvwPE#.dbPeadw1e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4223 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Might like to wee on people, seems more important than the video/audio of him admitting to sexual assault. Is mad at buzzfeed for their "witch-hunt", seems to have forgotten about the birther movement he supported. Lacks ability to comprehend irony. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Holy fuck If this is true though, the intelligence services have done him a solid here. Russia can't blackmail him for that stuff now. Unless they have videos I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4223 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Buzzfeed are getting a lot of flak for posting the document, despite the fact it was posted with the clear marker of being unsubstantiated and containing obvious errors. Think they're absolutely in the right personally, they've got a document that was at that time making its way around the highest ranked intelligence offices in the country, CNN had reported on it but not shown content, it's absolutely in the public interest to see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Buzzfeed are getting a lot of flak for posting the document, despite the fact it was posted with the clear marker of being unsubstantiated and containing obvious errors. Think they're absolutely in the right personally, they've got a document that was at that time making its way around the highest ranked intelligence offices in the country, CNN had reported on it but not shown content, it's absolutely in the public interest to see this. I'd agree, it'd be hard to argue that it isn't in the public interest to know what another state has on the leader of your country. While it may be embarrassing for Trump, the risk of him being blackmailed is substantial. Edited January 11, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14055 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 http://popbitch.com/home/2017/01/11/between-the-spreadsheets-ii-the-golden-opportunity/ Thorough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 golden trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30433 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 i'd be surprised if that's even the worst of his perversions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30433 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 You thinking about champagne enemas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Apart from being bizarre, it's not actually that big a deal though. It's not like he killed someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 i'm sure that looks perfectly acceptable behaviour compared to the depraved shit he gets up to behind closed doors. the next four years aren't going to be short of this sort of story are they? he hasn't even been sworn in yet. still, if we can have a pig head fucking pm, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 i'm sure that looks perfectly acceptable behaviour compared to the depraved shit he gets up to behind closed doors. the next four years aren't going to be short of this sort of story are they? he hasn't even been sworn in yet. still, if we can have a pig head fucking pm, why not? I'm still not 100% sure he's going to be sworn in, you know... this all has the look of a possible attempt to derail it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 Apart from being bizarre, it's not actually that big a deal though. It's not like he killed someone. The big deal is the publishing of "unsubstantiated, unverified allegations" as news. The preponderance of fake news at shit holes like buzz feed or Huffington post or whatever shouldn't be as alarming as it is. People who confuse those unethical traffic generators with actual news should be few and far between and were already too idiotic to worry about. But the New York Times and Washington Poist are doing the same thing. Organisations that had some basic standards aren't wasting any time looking for any evidence to support their claims that Trump is a Russian Manchurian Candidate, or that the left wing media has been infiltrated by Russian propagandists. They just whack it out there and quote anonymous sources. The Guardian recently made up complete falsehoods about Assange as well. It's leading people to distrust ANY media whatsoever. It elevates this unverified tattle from BuzzFeed to the same level as the verified and 100% auhentic Clinton emails. It's deligitimising the fourth (and fifth) estates who no longer have any power to provide a fact check service for what people see in their Facebook Feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26394 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Apart from being bizarre, it's not actually that big a deal though. It's not like he killed someone. The Russian leader having a video of the next President of the USA watching prostitutes piss on each other isn't a big deal to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26394 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 The big deal is the publishing of "unsubstantiated, unverified allegations" as news. The preponderance of fake news at shit holes like buzz feed or Huffington post or whatever shouldn't be as alarming as it is. People who confuse those unethical traffic generators with actual news should be few and far between and were already too idiotic to worry about. But the New York Times and Washington Poist are doing the same thing. Organisations that had some basic standards aren't wasting any time looking for any evidence to support their claims that Trump is a Russian Manchurian Candidate, or that the left wing media has been infiltrated by Russian propagandists. They just whack it out there and quote anonymous sources. It's leading people to distrust ANY media whatsoever. It elevates this unverified tattle from BuzzFeed to the same level as the verified and 100% auhentic Clinton emails. It's deligitimising the fourth (and fifth) estates who no longer have any power to provide a fact check service for what people see in their Facebook Feed. So we're all in agreement that leaking stolen, unverified, unchecked documents to the public is bad? Glad we're back on the same page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 So we're all in agreement that leaking stolen, unverified, unchecked documents to the public is bad? Glad we're back on the same page. You sound like you're saying I've ever defended someone for doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 The big deal is the publishing of "unsubstantiated, unverified allegations" as news. The preponderance of fake news at shit holes like buzz feed or Huffington post or whatever shouldn't be as alarming as it is. People who confuse those unethical traffic generators with actual news should be few and far between and were already too idiotic to worry about. But the New York Times and Washington Poist are doing the same thing. Organisations that had some basic standards aren't wasting any time looking for any evidence to support their claims that Trump is a Russian Manchurian Candidate, or that the left wing media has been infiltrated by Russian propagandists. They just whack it out there and quote anonymous sources. The Guardian recently made up complete falsehoods about Assange as well. It's leading people to distrust ANY media whatsoever. It elevates this unverified tattle from BuzzFeed to the same level as the verified and 100% auhentic Clinton emails. It's deligitimising the fourth (and fifth) estates who no longer have any power to provide a fact check service for what people see in their Facebook Feed. Good insight. Hadn't picked up on the 'fake news' aspect of this. Is there some suggestion that it may not be legit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 The Russian leader having a video of the next President of the USA watching prostitutes piss on each other isn't a big deal to you? The content of the video is neither here nor there to me, it has no impact on Trump's abilities (or lack thereof), it's just a sexual preference. A weird one, but who the fuck cares. The issue is the possibility of it being used for blackmail - but now that it's been 'outed' I think we're back in relative safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 Good insight. Hadn't picked up on the 'fake news' aspect of this. Is there some suggestion that it may not be legit? There's been no evidence provided to support the claims whatsoever. The intelligence agencies are at loggerheads over their support/opposition to Trump and anonymous sources from both are popping up all over with unsubstantiated claims to deligitimise the other. Comey says "we might have incriminating emails on Clinton" on the eve of the election... they didn't. Now an anonymous source says Russia might have incriminating stuff on Trump... no reason to believe they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Am I allowed to blame the MSM for this or what? I'm losing pace with everything here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) tbf to buzzfeed, they clearly stated at the top of the piece that the claims were unverified and there were some factual inaccuracies contained within the document, but felt they should publish it in the public interest with those caveats. Edited January 11, 2017 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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