The Fish 8989 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, David Kelly said: I'd rather watch Highlander any time. There's only some of the x men films that come close. Of course there's flaws in it but they don't stop it being far more enjoyable. All about opinions I suppose, but I think the X-Men films are amongst the worst. Certainly not as good as the first Iron Man and Avengers' movies, the 2nd Cap film, the Guardians films, Logan and Deadpool. I like watching Highlander for the nostalgia, but that's about it. Edited November 13, 2017 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 16 hours ago, Renton said: I would much rather watch Highlander on a loop than any of this Marvel or DC shit. Fantastic film, amazing atmosphere and scenery, with a decent bespoke sound track. By no means perfect but pretty sure a remake would fuck it up. I'm struggling to count on one finger how many remakes of classics have anywhere near equalled the original. You can tell Fish loves his CGI. The joyless one wades in again. Spreading his misery like a patient zero Eeyore. I don't like CGI for CGI's sake, fwiw and practical effects still trump most CGI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17775 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, The Fish said: The joyless one wades in again. Spreading his misery like a patient zero Eeyore. I don't like CGI for CGI's sake, fwiw and practical effects still trump most CGI. Just because I have a healthy disdain for adults without kids watching films about superheros wearing their Y fronts over their Lycra tights doesn't make me Eeyore. I've just highly rated three completely different films in the last 24 hours, Highlander being one. You say you don't like CGI for the sake of it, and neither do I. When used sparingly, e.g. in Paddington, it can truly make a film possible that was impossible previously. It should blend into the story and effectively not be noticeable. But can you honestly say that about any of the superhero films? I doubt it. It seems that it's mandatory to feature some ridiculous huge CGI rendered baddy at the end as well as the wanton destruction of some fictitious city based on New York or Chicago. BORING. Edited November 13, 2017 by Renton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 25 minutes ago, Renton said: Just because I have a healthy disdain for adults without kids watching films about superheros wearing their Y fronts over their Lycra tights doesn't make me Eeyore. I've just highly rated three completely different films in the last 24 hours, Highlander being one. You say you don't like CGI for the sake of it, and neither do I. When used sparingly, e.g. in Paddington, it can truly make a film possible that was impossible previously. It should blend into the story and effectively not be noticeable. But can you honestly say that about any of the superhero films? I doubt it. It seems that it's mandatory to feature some ridiculous huge CGI rendered baddy at the end as well as the wanton destruction of some fictitious city based on New York or Chicago. BORING. Sparingly in Paddington? the main fucking character is a CGI bear for goodness sake. The CGI in Logan was subtle and did blend into the story, the CGI in Cap 2 had weight to it and was used sparingly, the CGI in Doctor Strange was everywhere and it was dazzling, but it didn't pull me out of a story which is supposed to be mind-bending and weird. The CGI in the second half of Batman vs Superman was awful, ditto Wonder Woman. Very Michael Bay. But the CGI in Christopher Nolan's trilogy was subtle and probably went by without you noticing. fwiw I agree with you that I switch off when the filmmakers dump the character work from the first half of a film in favour of a Baysplosions and destruction porn. However, I think Marvel films try to avoid that as best they can given the source material. Certainly in the more "grounded" films like Captain America and Ant Man etc. They even made moving away from the big city-wide destruction-porn lunacy a plot point in the second Avengers movie. By the way, nobody wears pants outside lycra anymore, not even Superman. Get with the times grandad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 hours ago, The Fish said: All about opinions I suppose, but I think the X-Men films are amongst the worst. Certainly not as good as the first Iron Man and Avengers' movies, the 2nd Cap film, the Guardians films, Logan and Deadpool. I like watching Highlander for the nostalgia, but that's about it. I watched Highlander again yesterday and whilst being fully aware of the flaws (Lambert while I don't necessarily think he's a bad actor, is really miscast, him receiving 'the prize' is pretty awful) still enjoyed it greatly and not just for the nostalgia. Clancy Brown is excellent as Kurgen, Connery is always great to watch, I actually think the fight scenes are good and benefit from not smashing up entire cities and the soundtrack is excellent. Technically all of the Marvel films you mention are better but they simply aren't as much fun. And fwiw I do actually rate all the ones you mention. I suppose I do get jaded by the shite that the rest of them are (first two of each of the x men series excluded). I can't imagine there'll be many of them I still want to watch in 10 years time let alone 30. Deadpool, Guardians and X Men maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30409 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 26 minutes ago, David Kelly said: I watched Highlander again yesterday and whilst being fully aware of the flaws (Lambert while I don't necessarily think he's a bad actor, is really miscast, him receiving 'the prize' is pretty awful) still enjoyed it greatly and not just for the nostalgia. Clancy Brown is excellent as Kurgen, Connery is always great to watch, I actually think the fight scenes are good and benefit from not smashing up entire cities and the soundtrack is excellent. Technically all of the Marvel films you mention are better but they simply aren't as much fun. And fwiw I do actually rate all the ones you mention. I suppose I do get jaded by the shite that the rest of them are (first two of each of the x men series excluded). I can't imagine there'll be many of them I still want to watch in 10 years time let alone 30. Deadpool, Guardians and X Men maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17775 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, The Fish said: Sparingly in Paddington? the main fucking character is a CGI bear for goodness sake. The CGI in Logan was subtle and did blend into the story, the CGI in Cap 2 had weight to it and was used sparingly, the CGI in Doctor Strange was everywhere and it was dazzling, but it didn't pull me out of a story which is supposed to be mind-bending and weird. The CGI in the second half of Batman vs Superman was awful, ditto Wonder Woman. Very Michael Bay. But the CGI in Christopher Nolan's trilogy was subtle and probably went by without you noticing. fwiw I agree with you that I switch off when the filmmakers dump the character work from the first half of a film in favour of a Baysplosions and destruction porn. However, I think Marvel films try to avoid that as best they can given the source material. Certainly in the more "grounded" films like Captain America and Ant Man etc. They even made moving away from the big city-wide destruction-porn lunacy a plot point in the second Avengers movie. By the way, nobody wears pants outside lycra anymore, not even Superman. Get with the times grandad. Was he? I thought they'd trained a diminutive Peruvian bear for the role. You've kind of made my point. It was necessary for Paddington to be CGI, and they did it flawlessly. Not sure what other bits were CGI but they weren't noticeable. The first lord of the rings film would be another example where they got it right. I doubt CGI will ever be reigned in sufficiently in superhero films because it's kind of the whole premise of them. As a medium, when it's done to that extent, it's tedious imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Frogs playing heroes is a tricky one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30409 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Park Life said: Frogs playing heroes is a tricky one. Alreet, Tommy Robinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19824 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 fish continues to plough a lonely furrow to educate the TT masses in his one-man marvel movie crusade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Alex said: Alreet, Tommy Robinson Name me 3 Frog heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30409 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Park Life said: Name me 3 Frog heroes. Napoleon, Charles De Gaulle, Rene Artois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Alex said: Napoleon, Charles De Gaulle, Rene Artois Napoleon was born in Corsica to Italian parents. His real name is Bounoparte which is the giveaway. You learn something every day innit. Edited November 13, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Colonel Dax in Paths of Glory. Pepe Le Pew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30409 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Park Life said: Napoleon was born in Corsica to Italian parents. His real name is Bounoparte which is the giveaway. You learn something every day innit. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Alex said: *sigh* I know you didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, David Kelly said: Colonel Dax in Paths of Glory. Pepe Le Pew. I'll give Dax as I love the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 That's big of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30409 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Park Life said: I know you didn't know that. Well I didn't but there's another clue which suggests it wasn't a serious list. Also, the edit by yourself made it obvious you'd just been on wikipedia anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17775 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Antoine Lavoisier from my field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Alex said: Well I didn't but there's another clue which suggests it wasn't a serious list. Also, the edit by yourself made it obvious you'd just been on wikipedia anyway. I had to check. In case there was blowback. I could only remember the Genoa treaty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Renton said: Antoine Lavoisier from my field. What did he do? Curie is an easy one. (Although born Polish). Sheeesh... Edited November 13, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17775 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Papillon is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17775 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Park Life said: What did he do? Curie is an easy one. Father of modern chemistry plus got his head guillotined. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Renton said: Father of modern chemistry plus got his head guillotined. Well earned point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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