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Great news lads the son in laws ex wife is home. It looks like she's going to be ok it's really brought it home how bad this is. Hopefully things can get back to some kind of normality in a couple of

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1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said:


One of the Doctors I work with tried to get a test last month. They tried to send her to Galashiels. She pitched up at a Byker walk in centre instead and got one there and then 

Fucking Galashiels again :lol:

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Considering Boris is determined to keep the schools open come hell or high water

 

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/sep/22/covid-19-number-of-schools-in-england-not-fully-open-quadruples

 

The number of schools in England badly affected by Covid-19 cases among students and staff has quadrupled in the space of a week, and the number of pupils absent rose by 50%, according to estimates released by the Department for Education.

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Prof John Edmunds, a member of the UK's Sage scientific advisory group but speaking to BBC Radio 4 in a personal capacity, said "we haven’t learned from our mistake" in delaying action in March and "we’re unfortunately about to repeat it".

The scientist from the London School of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene told the Today programme: "I don’t think the measures have gone anywhere near far enough."

"I suspect we will see very stringent measures coming in place throughout the UK at some point, but it will be too late again," he said.

He said that we will have let the epidemic "double and double and double again" before stricter measures are introduced, which will mean "the worst of both worlds" because it will mean "putting the brakes on the epidemic for a very long time, very hard".

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Miss T's gone in to work today normally nothing phases her. But after Whitty & Valance's projections on Monday & Boris's pathetic response yesterday "a stitch in time saves nine" ffs. I could see her getting anxious as we watched Boris mumble & bumble through last night. She worked all through the Lockdown at school. There was supposed to be a rota but a few teachers didnt turn in last time & she did their days for them. Like I say it didnt bother her last time but I know shes worried this time. 

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14 minutes ago, trooper said:

Prof John Edmunds, a member of the UK's Sage scientific advisory group but speaking to BBC Radio 4 in a personal capacity, said "we haven’t learned from our mistake" in delaying action in March and "we’re unfortunately about to repeat it".

The scientist from the London School of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene told the Today programme: "I don’t think the measures have gone anywhere near far enough."

"I suspect we will see very stringent measures coming in place throughout the UK at some point, but it will be too late again," he said.

He said that we will have let the epidemic "double and double and double again" before stricter measures are introduced, which will mean "the worst of both worlds" because it will mean "putting the brakes on the epidemic for a very long time, very hard".

“Insanity is repeating the same actions and expecting different outcomes”- Fred West, or someone else who isn’t Einstein. 
 

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The at table service only applies to licensed premises because the government’s had to clarify because they hadn’t thought about the one or two coffee shops and McDonald’s out there 

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2 hours ago, trooper said:

Miss T's gone in to work today normally nothing phases her. But after Whitty & Valance's projections on Monday & Boris's pathetic response yesterday "a stitch in time saves nine" ffs. I could see her getting anxious as we watched Boris mumble & bumble through last night. She worked all through the Lockdown at school. There was supposed to be a rota but a few teachers didnt turn in last time & she did their days for them. Like I say it didnt bother her last time but I know shes worried this time. 

 

Aye my lass is the same. Doesn't like going in, says all the staff are worried because it's blatantly not safe - even with all the guidelines they've put in place. 

 

North Fawdon Primary has had to shut cos 7 teachers have caught it. 900 state schools nationwide are not fully open cos they've had outbreaks. Sorry like but the stuff about it being safe to keep schools open is total bullshit. Looks like it might take some teachers and pupils dying for the message to land though. 

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35 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Aye my lass is the same. Doesn't like going in, says all the staff are worried because it's blatantly not safe - even with all the guidelines they've put in place. 

 

North Fawdon Primary has had to shut cos 7 teachers have caught it. 900 state schools nationwide are not fully open cos they've had outbreaks. Sorry like but the stuff about it being safe to keep schools open is total bullshit. Looks like it might take some teachers and pupils dying for the message to land though. 

the under 11s don't spread it around you say? how convenient. 

i think you're probably right, but my god i hope they find a way to keep the schools open this winter. they should be the last things to close. 

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32 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Aye my lass is the same. Doesn't like going in, says all the staff are worried because it's blatantly not safe - even with all the guidelines they've put in place. 

 

North Fawdon Primary has had to shut cos 7 teachers have caught it. 900 state schools nationwide are not fully open cos they've had outbreaks. Sorry like but the stuff about it being safe to keep schools open is total bullshit. Looks like it might take some teachers and pupils dying for the message to land though. 

 

I don't have the answers, but keeping kids off school for a whole year would be pretty catastrophic for their life chances, especially the disadvantaged ones. I think education and healthcare/social care have to continue or we're genuinely fucked as a nation. I don't care too much about all the other sectors, just don't let people die needlessly and don't let kids suffer.

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I don't have the answers, but keeping kids off school for a whole year would be pretty catastrophic for their life chances, especially the disadvantaged ones. I think education and healthcare/social care have to continue or we're genuinely fucked as a nation. I don't care too much about all the other sectors, just don't let people die needlessly and don't let kids suffer.

 

You just repeat the school year for everyone. That's the answer. Which do you think is preferable, muddle through the current year with constant stops and starts and bunches of kids off for 2 weeks at a time self-isolating, entire year groups having to take time away from school, those of exam age particularly disrupted.....or call the whole thing off, protect pupils, teachers and their families that they'll take the virus home to, and repeat the school year for everyone next year. It is totally bogus to claim that kids and teachers can go to school, mix with other kids/teachers, and go home to their families, and we just don't need to worry about spread of the virus from that. 

 

That's how you do it. This current situation is so sub-optimal that you're leaving kids behind anyway but pretending that you aren't. 

 

It's mostly just you parents don't want your kids at home. You had the little cunts. :lol:

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12 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

You just repeat the school year for everyone. That's the answer. Which do you think is preferable, muddle through the current year with constant stops and starts and bunches of kids off for 2 weeks at a time self-isolating, entire year groups having to take time away from school, those of exam age particularly disrupted.....or call the whole thing off, protect pupils, teachers and their families that they'll take the virus home to, and repeat the school year for everyone next year. It is totally bogus to claim that kids and teachers can go to school, mix with other kids/teachers, and go home to their families, and we just don't need to worry about spread of the virus from that. 

 

That's how you do it. This current situation is so sub-optimal that you're leaving kids behind anyway but pretending that you aren't. 

 

It's mostly just you parents don't want your kids at home. You had the little cunts. :lol:

So the answer is that we hold an entire generation back a year? I can't see any flaws in that plan at all...

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I don't think its that easy. Any teacher or parent can tell you most kids lose competencies over the 6 week summer holiday break. To have a years break might put them back 2 years, not 1. And what happens with reception  when you start again, double class sizes? How do you square that circle? The other really important thing is their social skills and wellbeing, kids need to socialise for their mental health imo. Isolating an only child for a year is beyond cruel. And then there's the growing inequality gap and issues with abuse. 

 

I appreciate concern for your wife's health and indirectly yours. But plenty of people are being forced to take risks they didn't sign up for, some of whom are also really poorly paid (care workers). I think yes, we do have to make the best of a bad situation. I'm not aware of a single country in the world that has completely halted education on these time scales. 

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