The ChatGPT Thread

[Renton 27775]

4 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

Well bully for you and your saved time, meanwhile it's destroying the planet and killing folks:

 

 

So I was demonstrating a positive application of AI for balance. Rayvin has done this too, it's not all necessarily negative. In this instance AI has helped me understand some concepts I otherwise would probably have not bothered with. I've learnt something which might become important for me.

 

Am not sure what the point of your post is. Loneliness is horrible, AI is not the solution to this clearly, whatever that cunt Zuckerberg says.

[Toonpack 15583]

11 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

So I was demonstrating a positive application of AI for balance. Rayvin has done this too, it's not all necessarily negative. In this instance AI has helped me understand some concepts I otherwise would probably have not bothered with. I've learnt something which might become important for me.

 

Am not sure what the point of your post is. Loneliness is horrible, AI is not the solution to this clearly, whatever that cunt Zuckerberg says.

 

Outside of commercial application, it is worthless and dangerous, it needs regulating but it won't be, it's basically underpinning the US economy solely on smoke and mirrors, when/if that crashes we all suffer.

[Renton 27775]

2 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

Outside of commercial application, it is worthless and dangerous, it needs regulating but it won't be, it's basically underpinning the US economy solely on smoke and mirrors, when/if that crashes we all suffer.

 

Its clearly not worthless though, Ive literally just given you an example of how it has personally benefited my own learning. Outside of the usual suspects for everyday applications, ChatGPT, copilot etc, it has immense potential.  I'm assessing several applications of AI used in medical diagnostics where it can out perform very experienced operators in fractions of the time. In pharmacology, it will lead to a huge revolution where drug discovery will be increased by magnitudes and lives will be saved.

The possibilities are endless, the risks are great. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater 

[Toonpack 15583]

3 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Its clearly not worthless though, Ive literally just given you an example of how it has personally benefited my own learning. Outside of the usual suspects for everyday applications, ChatGPT, copilot etc, it has immense potential.  I'm assessing several applications of AI used in medical diagnostics where it can out perform very experienced operators in fractions of the time. In pharmacology, it will lead to a huge revolution where drug discovery will be increased by magnitudes and lives will be saved.

The possibilities are endless, the risks are great. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater 

 

I would suggest your "application" and those you describe are commercial applications, as in, related to your work/industry (and therefore not worthless, which is what I said) and are not private/public applications. 

 

Lives will be saved and people will live longer so the next generations can be burdened with even more old people bet you can't wait ?

[Renton 27775]

9 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

I would suggest your "application" and those you describe are commercial applications, as in, related to your work/industry (and therefore not worthless, which is what I said) and are not private/public applications. 

 

Lives will be saved and people will live longer so the next generations can be burdened with even more old people bet you can't wait ?

 

Am the one obsessed by the generational divide am I?   I'm a lot closer to being retired than I am to a graduate myself man. I just recognise generational unfairness when I see it  and speak as I think. I want everyone to live as long and prosperous lives as possible whatever the age they are. But I don't want young families to struggle whilst a large proportion of pensioners have capital wealth locked up they are not taxed on, and recieve non means tested benefits and triple locked state pensions.

 

Everything is commercial in a capitalist society, I don't get your point here. You said you wanted all AI binned. This is neither possible nor desirable imo. It needs regulating, but that highlights deeper problems with democracy.

 

 

[Craig 12372]

It's not worthless, it has value. The mistake most people make is assuming it can be relied on in complete isolation. That's where it becomes dangerous.

It's a means of enhancing existing practices, not replacing them.

[Andrew 7467]

Question for the AI users, as I maintain the opinion that this is a bubble that will burst.

Do you pay for it as you use it?

[Rayvin 8361]

33 minutes ago, Andrew said:

Question for the AI users, as I maintain the opinion that this is a bubble that will burst.

Do you pay for it as you use it?

 

Yeah I pay the $20 a month for chatgpt.

 

I believe the bubble will burst from an economic perspective, it's a house of cards. I don't think it'll burst from a functionality perspective though unless it simply becomes too unaffordable for them to maintain without all this hype and the economics of it are impossible.

[Christmas Tree 6693]

Yes

[Gemmill 63171]

I got a year of gemini free with my phone. I show it who's boss by just using it to set timers and alarms. 

[Renton 27775]

Its on my phone, probably as part of a deal, I'm not paying when it expires. I assumed it was standard on most work PCs? 

The application outside of work is currently minimal.

 

Got me thinking mind, how much would you pay for the internet if it wasn't free? Got to be worth hundreds of not thousands pa. Thankfully nobody has been able to fully commercialise it. Suspect AI will be similar.

[Andrew 7467]

16 minutes ago, Renton said:

Its on my phone, probably as part of a deal, I'm not paying when it expires. I assumed it was standard on most work PCs? 

The application outside of work is currently minimal.

 

Got me thinking mind, how much would you pay for the internet if it wasn't free? Got to be worth hundreds of not thousands pa. Thankfully nobody has been able to fully commercialise it. Suspect AI will be similar.

Its free...?

[Renton 27775]

11 minutes ago, Andrew said:

Its free...?

 

Virtually, compared with its true value anyway. 

I mean, I remember the days when telephone calls were charged. Talking to someone like you in NZ would cost a fortune. I once spent £30 phoning my gf in America, maybe 15 min call. Now it's free on any number of video calling systems, nobody has managed to monetise it.

[strawb 5423]

I pay nearly £50 a month for my internet like 

[Renton 27775]

14 minutes ago, strawb said:

I pay nearly £50 a month for my internet like 

 

Must have a very fast connection for that price, mind still less than £2 a day for unlimited use. I mean you're paying a small fee for the infrastructure needed but 90% of the content is free. The true value of the internet is not realised imo.

[strawb 5423]

35 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Must have a very fast connection for that price, mind still less than £2 a day for unlimited use. I mean you're paying a small fee for the infrastructure needed but 90% of the content is free. The true value of the internet is not realised imo.

Yeah true, but 90% of the content is selling you a service or a product. And is anything free if there is adverts all over it?

 

The dot com bubble burst years ago, and it seems to me that AI will go the same way unless it starts making money.

[Christmas Tree 6693]

The dot com bubble was mainly stock market related and while it caused job losses and a reset, once it stabilised, the internet continued its march and changed the world.

AI will 100% keep marching on.

[Toonpack 15583]

2 hours ago, strawb said:

Yeah true, but 90% of the content is selling you a service or a product. And is anything free if there is adverts all over it?

 

The dot com bubble burst years ago, and it seems to me that AI will go the same way unless it starts making money.

 

It has cost billions to get where it is, and continues to do so, so it's one hell of a long road to even get within a sniff of profitability, it's nigh on the verge of impossibility IMO.

[Toonpack 15583]

20 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

The dot com bubble was mainly stock market related and while it caused job losses and a reset, once it stabilised, the internet continued its march and changed the world.

AI will 100% keep marching on.

 

The stock markets are massively over valued all but entirely down to AI stock, when the bubble bursts it'll be one unholy mess.

 

There's little difference between dot com over valuation which caused the crash and AI over valuation. The internet was simply the platform for dot com companies but it wasn't a dot com company itself. The fact companies using the platform went pop was irrelevant to the platform itself.

[Renton 27775]

12 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

The stock markets are massively over valued all but entirely down to AI stock, when the bubble bursts it'll be one unholy mess.

 

There's little difference between dot com over valuation which caused the crash and AI over valuation. The internet was simply the platform for dot com companies but it wasn't a dot com company itself. The fact companies using the platform went pop was irrelevant to the platform itself.

 

Agreed AI looks like a huge bubble, especially when you look at someone of the cash flows happening which are circular. The market value of nVidia is insane. And unlike the dot.com crash, these companies have to invest massively in infrastructure and energy. I also can't see where the profit is, especially if it does cause unemployment and wage depreciation so no fucker can afford it. 

[Gemmill 63171]

Bitcoin is dropping like a stone with this AI bubble stuff. That's why CT is hoping and praying for AI to rally and go marching on.

 

[Christmas Tree 6693]

37 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Bitcoin is dropping like a stone with this AI bubble stuff. That's why CT is hoping and praying for AI to rally and go marching on.

 

 

  I haven’t looked at Crypto once since July when the panic set in about having to do a FOTB speech. 
 

Still got My 100k funded account to play with and I would really look forward to getting back into after Mug Rush in January, but I’m now hooked on learning quickbooks and have a website to set up. Even though I know full well I will never finish it. 
 

But that’s ADHD for you  

[Toonpack 15583]

“You’ve got to be worth a lot to lose $500 Billion in a few weeks”. 🙄

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/jensen-huang-market-nvidia-quarter-meeting-2025-11?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=insider-nvidiastock-sub-post

[RobinRobin 14502]

[Gemmill 63171]

Another good thing to do with AI is just to get it to remember shit stuff for you. Like numbers. Really degrading lackey shit. 

 

The cheeky cunt tried to tell me I hadn't asked it to remember something just before there, and I had to demand that it looked back into our conversations from last week and it sheepishly returned with the correct information. 

 

This is how you treat this thing.