Holden McGroin

I know what it was in reference to. I just have no idea what your point is. It's pretty obvious I think. For example, the fattest teenager in the UK who had to have an operation recently to save her. She ate 10 mars bars per day apparently. Why not just 1 per day??? Two different things though, surely? Although I doubt the lass feels good about herself and there's more to it than just liking Mars Bars. There may be some similarities between obese people and alcoholics but there are loads of differences between the two conditions. Mars Bars aren't a powerful drug, are they? Not that I would class all alcoholics as the same anyway. Someone who develops a drinking problem after a traumatic event is different to someone like George Best's mother who, iirc, died in her 50s but never touched a drop until later in life (40s maybe). Not saying alcoholics are exempt from any responsibility but I think they do have a condition or a pre-disposition to one which the rest of us don't. I'd argue the average person would find it extremely difficult to become one through choice. I guess there are varying levels of alcoholism though and not all are not triggered by traumatic experiences. I can see some parallels between (eg) excessive eating and drinking. Isn't the main cause of comfort eating down to filling some emotional void in your life - which i'd guess a lot of alcoholics suffer from. Not than im expert on the matter like. Exactly what I was getting at I also said there were some similarities between excessive eating and drinking. Case closed. What? It was tongue in cheek... or are you wooshing me???

I know what it was in reference to. I just have no idea what your point is. It's pretty obvious I think. For example, the fattest teenager in the UK who had to have an operation recently to save her. She ate 10 mars bars per day apparently. Why not just 1 per day??? Two different things though, surely? Although I doubt the lass feels good about herself and there's more to it than just liking Mars Bars. There may be some similarities between obese people and alcoholics but there are loads of differences between the two conditions. Mars Bars aren't a powerful drug, are they? Not that I would class all alcoholics as the same anyway. Someone who develops a drinking problem after a traumatic event is different to someone like George Best's mother who, iirc, died in her 50s but never touched a drop until later in life (40s maybe). Not saying alcoholics are exempt from any responsibility but I think they do have a condition or a pre-disposition to one which the rest of us don't. I'd argue the average person would find it extremely difficult to become one through choice. I guess there are varying levels of alcoholism though and not all are not triggered by traumatic experiences. I can see some parallels between (eg) excessive eating and drinking. Isn't the main cause of comfort eating down to filling some emotional void in your life - which i'd guess a lot of alcoholics suffer from. Not than im expert on the matter like. Exactly what I was getting at I also said there were some similarities between excessive eating and drinking. Case closed.

I know what it was in reference to. I just have no idea what your point is. It's pretty obvious I think. For example, the fattest teenager in the UK who had to have an operation recently to save her. She ate 10 mars bars per day apparently. Why not just 1 per day??? Two different things though, surely? Although I doubt the lass feels good about herself and there's more to it than just liking Mars Bars. There may be some similarities between obese people and alcoholics but there are loads of differences between the two conditions. Mars Bars aren't a powerful drug, are they? Not that I would class all alcoholics as the same anyway. Someone who develops a drinking problem after a traumatic event is different to someone like George Best's mother who, iirc, died in her 50s but never touched a drop until later in life (40s maybe). Not saying alcoholics are exempt from any responsibility but I think they do have a condition or a pre-disposition to one which the rest of us don't. I'd argue the average person would find it extremely difficult to become one through choice. I guess there are varying levels of alcoholism though and not all are not triggered by traumatic experiences. I can see some parallels between (eg) excessive eating and drinking. Isn't the main cause of comfort eating down to filling some emotional void in your life - which i'd guess a lot of alcoholics suffer from. Not than im expert on the matter like.

Ok, so basically you are saying that any bad addiction is an illness? Do Heroin addicts not get any help though ? Genuine question by the way.

I know what it was in reference to. I just have no idea what your point is. It's pretty obvious I think. For example, the fattest teenager in the UK who had to have an operation recently to save her. She ate 10 mars bars per day apparently. Why not just 1 per day???

Pernickety as usual Alexis. Eh? It's obvious it's an addiction. There is no debate about that surely. The debate lies in whether an addiction like this could also be called a disease. Which was exactly my point. I don't see it as an illness. I don't think it's clear cut like. Some people are obviously more pre-disposed to becoming one. I think it's condition, if you like. To say an addiction to something is an addiction isn't really saying anything though, is it? I implied it was an addiction rather than an illness. Perhaps my wording should have been clearer. So to sum up, I'm putting it purely under the addiction umbrella! Unless of course we are classing every type of addiction as a disease in which case I'm fucked because as I'm hooked on Nestle Cookie Crisp cereal.... You're saying it's not a disease, I get it It's not a conventional disease. You have to wonder why some people can't just have a drink and then stop. There must be something genetic or whatever. Mind, there's various degrees of alcoholism and loads of people in this country who won't even consider themselves to have a problem would be classed as having one in other countries. Why cant someone just have 1 mars bar then stop? On a topical note, I was in Sainsburys this morning after the gym getting some fruit, yoghurt etc and some bum in 90s lotto (probably) tracksuit started having a go at me under his breath about buying healthy food while ready to purchase 3 bottles of Sainsburys Basics Gin.

Pernickety as usual Alexis. Eh? It's obvious it's an addiction. There is no debate about that surely. The debate lies in whether an addiction like this could also be called a disease. Which was exactly my point. I don't see it as an illness. I don't think it's clear cut like. Some people are obviously more pre-disposed to becoming one. I think it's condition, if you like. To say an addiction to something is an addiction isn't really saying anything though, is it? I implied it was an addiction rather than an illness. Perhaps my wording should have been clearer. So to sum up, I'm putting it purely under the addiction umbrella! Unless of course we are classing every type of addiction as a disease in which case I'm fucked because as I'm hooked on Nestle Cookie Crisp cereal....

Pernickety as usual Alexis. Eh? It's obvious it's an addiction. There is no debate about that surely. The debate lies in whether an addiction like this could also be called a disease. Which was exactly my point. I don't see it as an illness.

Like hyperactive kids diagnosed with ADD.

Pernickety as usual Alexis.

I always look at it as an addiction rather than an illness.

Is this what the world is coming to? My dad would have bollocked me if brought out the GameBoy. To be honest, he wouldn't have let me take it in the 1st place. I learnt a lot from watching Newcastle play when I grew up...and the football was shite then as well.

I must be lucky then because I like the majority of my office and the ones I dislike, I dont bother with.

Are we actually certain NUFC were on the brink of financial collapse or was that just another CAshley lie? Freddy for me. At least when he was in charge we used to get a buzz watching the team.

Poor lad is only 20 as well. Bad craic.

Do you not miss the social side of office work though. I think i'd get cabin fever working from home every day.

You planning something for Sports Direct Towers? Arlington Road tonight no doubt

My bro drives a 3 hr roundtrip nearly every day. I could never do that. I have a 5 minute walk to work.

They were together for 7 years so thats one hell of a sacrifice in my opinion. Not ruling it out though. Snakes with tits tbh.

Big Mike: "We'll start you on £10k per week in your first year. Each year it increments. If, after 5 years you've won the Champions league you can have £9k per week. Deal?"

Is that the biggest pair of bollocks ever???

A fat Xabi Alonso basically. Had one of the best touches and ranges of passes around. Never moved out of the centre circle though..

I dont get in this day and age when all the footballers are athletes, look after their diets etc that someone can be this fat. I reckon Rooney will be huge when he retires.

Honestly, he trains everyday, plays a match every week and is STILL that fat. How does that work then?