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To be fair he didn't really have much choice in the matter as if he hadn't then we could've went into administration and it's likely that SJH would have done the same had he been in charge.

Some shit from some bird:

Aye, he'd do a job at raising morale at the very least.

Not really, unless you reckon he single-handedly decided the bonuses.

As alex and ewerk like to say - answer the question. Yeah, they love to say that. Not a symptom of your slippery bastard evasion techniques of course. Fop has answered all questions, Gemmill has not. What's your job Fop? What's Gemmill's? Answering a question with a question?

As alex and ewerk like to say - answer the question. Yeah, they love to say that. Not a symptom of your slippery bastard evasion techniques of course. Fop has answered all questions, Gemmill has not. What's your job Fop?

I'm bored now, clearly I lack the stamina of others.

I never said they were justifiable, I was disagreeing with you having a go at a struggling bank changing it's business practices.

Where do you think the bonus is coming from? Or more importantly that the bonus was needed to get the staff to do what they have done (even though the Government haven't liked much of it - publicly at least)? Not answering the question. If it cost less than the £90m in bonuses (+ the higher bonuses on top) and the negative effect to the economy, benefits and socially then yes. But either way there's no justification for the bonuses. Or are you saying there is a justification for the bonuses, if so what is that justification? £90m? Where are you getting that from? Most are estimating £8.8m.

Where do you think the bonus is coming from? Or more importantly that the bonus was needed to get the staff to do what they have done (even though the Government haven't liked much of it - publicly at least)? Not answering the question.

What business practices would those be, Fop? Since being nationalised that is. Fopsilence Fopnotnoticegemmill. (easy to do). If you work there, Gemmill, you should know regarding running down the business with like thought for anything other than paying the borrowed amount, regarding lending, mortgages and repossessions. So it's bonuses for misery and compounding the current lending/housing issues. Never mind the whole taxpayers money for the bank bonus philosophy that got everyone into the current mess issue. So are you saying the NR should have continued running the business as before and so have had the tax payer to continue bailing them out? No, but then that's not the same thing at all. They've had their wrist slapped for the repossession issue by the Government (well above the banking average), and for some of the tactics they've used to unload mortgages - which helped in the sense of paying off NR debt (hence this bonus), but not in the sense of the economy or people's welfare. Which wouldn't be so bad, but the people suffering are the owners of NR (and are paying said bonuses). Really if the usual suspects what to argue with Fop, then you should pick an issue where you have some firm ground under you. You've got a fucking cheek. So, yes or no, would you prefer it that we were still bailing out NR?

Aye it's been said on here before, doesn't really explain why he's only made 4 appearances though even with our injury problems.

Fuck me, 'See you behind the bike shed after training and we'll settle this once and for all'.

I recall Wise's salary as being quoted at £1 million when he started. A bit of googling has revealed that the papers were claiming he's on £1.5m, treble his salary at Leeds.

What business practices would those be, Fop? Since being nationalised that is. Fopsilence Fopnotnoticegemmill. (easy to do). If you work there, Gemmill, you should know regarding running down the business with like thought for anything other than paying the borrowed amount, regarding lending, mortgages and repossessions. So it's bonuses for misery and compounding the current lending/housing issues. Never mind the whole taxpayers money for the bank bonus philosophy that got everyone into the current mess issue. So are you saying the NR should have continued running the business as before and so have had the tax payer to continue bailing them out?

It would be interesting to know exactly what Wise & Co. are picking up for their efforts.

Weren't Viduka and Barton signed under Shepherd anyway? Not that it excuses the wages handed to subsequent signings.

To be fair the profit on disposal of players is also a paper profit so the loss will actually be more than 2.5m

Erm, isn't that article referring to even earlier accounts than the ones in the OP? The lad who posted the stuff I copied from N-O is an accountant and appears to know his stuff - far more than me, or some guy from The Journal I imagine. It appears to me (from a totally uneducated eye, I admit) that Ashley has put into NUFC almost a quarter of a BILLION pounds of his own money. Does he really deserve the vitriol he gets? I know, so why not throw in another £20m to kick start the team which could then potentially lead to increase TV money, gate receipts and prize money?

The fucking spacker has had to take his oath again due to fucking it up first time round.

Here's hoping that Man U hump them in the final.

This coming from someone who I assume is a Blackburn fan.

You reckon the club's accounts are full of shit then?

For fucks sake, another day out in Wembley for Spurs.