Andrew

Demos oot on steam fellas DLing now

this is the bloke who flipped at me for not immediately remembering who santiago munez was

the irony is im not remotely an Apple fanboy (as im sure the accusation is incoming) I own one apple product which is a 3 year old ipod touch So how exactly have Apple changed your life then? just read the posts, Ive said several times now that its about more than just the obvious direct link to products like the ipod or phone and considerably moreso about how theyve influenced the wider market

quite happy discussing stuff like this tbh, shame craigs buggered off that neverhood thing was really interesting once Id read up on it a bit

No doubt the same bints'll be discussing 'Strictly...' despite the floods in Thailand going on etc. How dare they? That young lass on it has got outstanding chebs mind. Agreed, MAHOOSIVE! whos this?

Yeah thats what's prompted me to try and get an appointment as that web resoucre thing is just far too much info for me to take in! well its as Jan says, Ive actually a printout from businesslink here that suggests a site called www.mentorsme.co.uk for actual personal business mentoring so they might be helpful

I tihnk theyre phasing out the appointments thing in favour of a new web based thing theyre pushing https://online.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/ac...58805&r.s=h thinks its in there somewhere

Dreamworks were 3 years behind Pixar in starting the animated film racket and they started with Ants Shrek didn't arrive until 2001 by which time Pixar had released Toy Story 1 and 2, a Bugs Life and Mosnters inc, they weren't even close to being as pioneering at the time I'd read up on 'The Nevehood' if I were you. Might have been a video game rather than a feature film but it came out around the same time as Toy Story. a game dreamworks published, like crediting EA for making Mass Effect which Bioware make or Activision for "making" MW3 this year rather than infinity ward

the irony is im not remotely an Apple fanboy (as im sure the accusation is incoming) I own one apple product which is a 3 year old ipod touch

when I was 6 years old it pretty much was yeh since its been one of my favourite films for most of my life phrased wrong perhaps, apologies, feels like I'm fighting off everyone here so I'm typing quicker than thinking Dreamworks were 3 years behind Pixar in starting the animated film racket and they started with Ants Shrek didn't arrive until 2001 by which time Pixar had released Toy Story 1 and 2, a Bugs Life and Mosnters inc, they weren't even close to being as pioneering at the time the point that there was more to Jobs work than "phones and MP3s" which led to a response entirely about phones and MP3s

This is the bit I don't really understand. Yes, it's great to have ipods and iphones but to say that he has had a massive impact on your life? The guy was a great innovator but he didn't cure cancer. youre missing the wider influence those devices have had on just about every area of computing and the way music is distributed nowadays and the fact this whole "tablet revolution" wouldnt have happened without the ipad and that steve jobs owned Pixar from 86 to 06 meaning when they made a whole host of the best animated films ever he was in charge if you look at it at pure face value "oh yeh ipods/phones are nice" then yes it might seem odd, but taking a deeper look at the influence those, and many other of his ideas and works, had on modern culture reveals a lot more than just an MP3 player and a phone I had an MP3 player before Apple brought out the ipod, I had music and internet on my phone before Apple brought out the iphone. Yes, Apple may have refined and improved these devices but the greatest success Steve Jobs had was in making these products cool. He succeeded in creating these fan boys that we now see mourning his passing outside Apple stores. Ultimately he was a good innovator and a great business man but I'll hold off on the beatification for now. This tbh. Respect where it is due but you are going a tad OTT Andrew. Perhaps but tbh its acting a cunt to have a go at someone in a thread about someones death because "I don't think they were that great" and my point about Pixar has been conveniently ignored to stick with "MP3 players and phones" which if my post was actually read was exactly my point if you see apple/jobs in terms of MP3 and Phones then obviously his influence won't seem particularly important, I'm suggesting that there was perhaps more too him than the iPod and iPhone and the response I got was all about phones and MP3s

bill gates is 55 man, dont count your chickens

This is the bit I don't really understand. Yes, it's great to have ipods and iphones but to say that he has had a massive impact on your life? Edit: 'his work' The guy was a great innovator but he didn't cure cancer. how would you describe it then? is "work" only applicable to great medical/scientific discoveries or something?

This is the bit I don't really understand. Yes, it's great to have ipods and iphones but to say that he has had a massive impact on your life? The guy was a great innovator but he didn't cure cancer. youre missing the wider influence those devices have had on just about every area of computing and the way music is distributed nowadays and the fact this whole "tablet revolution" wouldnt have happened without the ipad and that steve jobs owned Pixar from 86 to 06 meaning when they made a whole host of the best animated films ever he was in charge if you look at it at pure face value "oh yeh ipods/phones are nice" then yes it might seem odd, but taking a deeper look at the influence those, and many other of his ideas and works, had on modern culture reveals a lot more than just an MP3 player and a phone

no arguments there

Honestly? This, I just don't understand why people get saddened by a situation like this. I am sad for his family that at an age of 56 they lose a father etc. But as for someone who was relatively private and I didn't know, didn't read much about. The world's a better place due to people like him tbh. Admittedly I don't have any deep feelings of grief about it but he was certainly an innovator in a world of corporate clones. Oh I agree, he was an innovator which has helped more then the technogeeks, but feeling of grief about someone you dont know, especially a private one. I honestly think people (not Andrew) who genuinely feel grief stricken (or worse, pretend to) over things like this, need to have a word with themselves. I'm hardly sat here bawling my eyes out wyki, don't see why you've such a problem with people saying they're saddened by the death of someone who has influenced their life. you mentioned influencing moer than technogeeks ( ) but thats precisely what I am and there is no question that Jobs work has had a massive impact on my life so yes, I am saddened to hear of his death, have you got a problem with that?

One of the modern worlds giants, without him apple wouldn't exist so no iphones/pods/pads/macs and of course there is Pixar really quite saddened by this RIP

ive not found any probs with keepers so far, not played with anyone except toon and my UT either though so I'll have to branch out at some point thing that bothers me is the menus and slowness of the game in general (outside of matches)

the fuck is teeyotay sheeek?

Such a mong lol I was going to respond, didnt in the end, not worth the effort

imaginged that being said in your avatar and it made me laugh, simple things

been held up with discussions between MS and the Beeb apparently, MS wanted it to be for gold memebers only but obviously the BBC can't broadcast as part of a paid for service only, glad its coming now though

To be fair, I think all pundits have that fear of upsetting managers. Either because they're mates, or they're afraid of losing interviews and the like. The sooner the BBC realise the better talking heads are those that aren't afraid to say their piece, the better. G.Neville seems a decent pundit so far and hasn't been shy in putting his views across. I watch MoTD almost out of tradition these days. It's nowhere near the best football round-up/highlight program on tv. Goals on Sunday is much better, more natural banter, better guest opinions and a better review of the Saturday's fixtures. I don't understand why the MoTD producers don't make the whole thing less staid. Bring some journalists in, have ex pros, have bloggers even. They had a few bloggers on Booted on Radio 5 and they wiped the floor with "Chappers" (the ersatz chairman) in terms of passion, knowledge and insight. I fear I may have gone off on a tangent... youre right though

No, was severe concussion. bif softie, where did all the broken neck claims come from? was that his mam over reacting and showing him up? he was treated on the pitch for half an hour by the physio and paramedics

its been a long time coming, will be nice to have though certainly