Andrew

going off that 90 mins we're likely to see the first penalty shootout of this WC in half an hour or so

M'man, you do know that girl in your picture is 17 ? who is it?

Thing with Schwarzer is it's easier for his mistakes to go unnoticed at Fulham whereas the likes of Almunia and Fabianski have every error highlighted and scrutinized, I don't think he's much of an upgrade for Arsenal basically and he's nearly 38 too. ...and Fulham will replace a 38 year old with an older man! you saying that got me thinking, average age of first choice PL goalkeepers Arsenal 33 Aston Villa 39 Birmingham 27 Blackburn 30 Blackpool 29 Bolton 35 Chelsea 28 Everton 31 Fulham 37 Liverpool 27 Man city 34 Man utd 39 Newcastle 35 Stoke 34 Sunderland 27 Tottenham 29 West Brom 24 West Ham 30 Wigan 29 Wolves 38 thats all the teams and the age of their No 1 keepers, the average age is nearly 32 and thats brought down a bit by scott carson cause WBA came up and Portsmouth with David james went down

if its world class to go to a tournament and not score in 3 games against some dross (and then the Jormans) then I guess he is world class If you're basing this on goals rather than the ability then Messi has had something like 23 shots in this world cup so far and scored ZERO. He must be crap as well. but rooneys general play was god awful too, his touch was heavy he was paceless and he almost never provided threat to the opposition goal either as provider or scorer you can't seriously be defending his performances in this WC as those of a world class player

Thing with Schwarzer is it's easier for his mistakes to go unnoticed at Fulham whereas the likes of Almunia and Fabianski have every error highlighted and scrutinized, I don't think he's much of an upgrade for Arsenal basically and he's nearly 38 too. Agreed, Fabianski really is shit though

I think Hodgson would go down well, hes the best candidate imo if capello does go, I usually think the criticism of england managers is harsh or over the top but hes made some big big big mistakes this time round and has refused to learn lessons about selection or tactics, just plowed on regardless

yes they can, http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/index.html

brazil starting to look like potential world champions here what a lovely finish

Just noticed in that Ad break that all the england associations have gone, carlign ad he just forgets the water again, nike hocus pocus ad is about robinho now etc

2-0 to the brazilians, not offside, good play by all 3 of the brazil forwards for that goal, cracking by fabiano

"brazil take the lead with a british goal"? WHAT THE FUCK fuck off ITV

Done

Salcido was excellent, Alexis Sanchez playing for Chile tonight, just loves having the ball and looks good on it. Messi of course, despite his lack of goals he (unlike rooney) is showing that the rest of his game is good enough at this level Whos rooney?? That fat kid who plays for wembley FC? Not even worth talking about that bunch of spice boys. Even when messi is having an "off" game hes still making things happen even if it isnt for him, I swear that ball is on string at times, Gutierrez must of lent him some its something of a cliche to say the balls glued to his feet now but watch him with it, it seems to be, it moves without him touching it staying right next to his feet, never more than 6-7 inches from him whenever he has it

Salcido was excellent, Alexis Sanchez playing for Chile tonight, just loves having the ball and looks good on it. Messi of course, despite his lack of goals he (unlike rooney) is showing that the rest of his game is good enough at this level

"premier league, best to watch blah blah" its this kind of thinking that leads to us having such a collection of shitstains as a national team, the PL isnt the best to watch, give me la liga anyday frankly

Worthy of its own thread I felt, looking forward to this very much!

eh?

Out of interest who is he? Also add the likes of Phil Jones from Blackburn to that, he looked absolutely top drawer for a young centre half in the games he played in the season just gone. That Shelvey lad liverpool signed from CHarlton could be good too. was going to mention him, mate of mine, blackburn fan, rates him really highly 7 games for blackburn last season and 2 MOM performances in there, definitely one to watch

"it alright lad you've just been fucking awful in all of the games but you know what? you're brilliant anyway" can see that working just great

I quite enjoyed that

Gerard looked a lot better last year when he was still a Liverpool player I know, I just felt like being pedantic, youre spot on btw

Agreed, it will stil be the excuse though, turning point and all that. well with the 6+5 or whatever the numbers are that is being phased in over the next howevermany seasons should help at least I thought FIFA scrapped that? oh yeh they did, its the squad of 25 now though isnt it, with gradually greater % of english players?

Capellos fault

Agreed, it will stil be the excuse though, turning point and all that. well with the 6+5 or whatever the numbers are that is being phased in over the next howevermany seasons should help at least