Rayvin

I've covered this ground so many times with people who don't understand Labour's finance record that my head actually wants to explode every time we get into it now, but are you aware, that prior to the 2008 financial crash, caused by Tories on this side of the Atlantic and their equivalents on the other side, the deficit was 1) stable and 2) less than the last time a Tory government was in power, as a proportion of GDP. So, in a nutshell, Labour were delivering exactly what you've just said that they should do to get ahead. The point is, the media have perpetuated a lie for which we are all now suffering.

No they won't, because the narrative for austerity is too prevalent a lie. Someone could come along and solve the whole fucking lot, and the right wing press would annihilate them. That is the problem CT, the real answers are being drowned the fuck out.

He's not being put forward or even voted for in order for him to win though. Not by a lot of people. It's an attempt to force Labour back over from the centre-right. He won't win the next election, he'll quit as leader when he fails, but Labour won't be what it is now. This is a necessary process.

But do you not also think cracking down on tax avoidance, which costs us £70billion per year, should be a higher priority than controlling for £4.6billion in welfare fraud? Wouldn't that stand us in better stead going forward? That £70b could be spent on public services, investing in science and technology, putting the UK at the forefront of the information/knowledge arms race. Instead, with respect, we're playing petty politics over things only the Daily Mail gets wound up about.

I agree with this, but as things stand I can't see any political party actually delivering on such a thing. Especially not the Tories. There is no vision for the future of this country, we're just winding it down now, really.

They're not exactly devoid of mess now...

I think it's a foregone conclusion now. NuLabour is dead and given what it's become, not a moment too soon.

I still look back fondly at the fanfare surrounding Rodwell's arrival

See, you guys have taken the perfectly sane and not at all boring as hell debate that Mako and I were having, and you've just ruined it!

You know what, I've re-read the posts here, and you win. Acid detecting sensors to capture all manner of human excrement are certainly more practical than a camera. Not sure they exist like, but they would make sense. 'Course they might also go off if someone brought an orange juice into the car, or their deodorant smelled too strongly...

I considered that, but figured that they'd be more costly in the long run. You'd need them pretty much all over the place to cover the possible eventualities for a car soiling episode, they'd need regular replacing, would play up and require maintenance more often than a protected camera in a box would, etc. They could also be vandalised, whereas the camera could be more easily protected. I put an extraordinary amount of thought into something this trivial. Let me have my moment

You're such an odd person

End of Journey Webcam/Photo - post-exit, photo is taken of internal seating areas and relayed to manned observation post and central office. Visual check carried out on photo and car approved for further collections. If visual check flags potential issues, car is recalled and observed manually. Timestamped photos are taken as evidence and the car is cleaned down. Previous customer is billed for clean up. Car re-released into circulation following clean up.

I thought Obertan was mostly alright, surprisingly.

Good game overall, even if watching the standard final 15 minutes of frantic defending is still a part of the average match day experience.

Absolutely this.

Balls to that.

Thanks!

Think we should probably swap Mitrovic in soon...just to mix it up a bit.

Shame for Anita...

Can you imagine if we got a third? I can't remember the last time we scored 3 goals... EDIT - although we'd probably lose 4-3 if that happened.

Fucking good recovery though!