Renton

What a stupid poll. We can't even sign anyone until Christmas, and maybe not even then.

I'm sure Renton will find something to moan about though! 43453[/snapback] The only thing I'll moan about is speculative threads not even remotely based on reality, and the strange belief we can spend indefinitely. How are we going to fund this?

Same with women. 43444[/snapback]

Happy birthday! Mind, a word of warning - drinking isn't as much fun once it's legal!

Can't you stick it on your house contents insurance? Mine is - a lot cheaper than £60 a year.

Ahh, 'Nam. Be careful there like. Streetmap is also quite useful, has several zoom levels etc.

Funny you should mention those 2 matches. When I sat and watched Benitez making those subs last week, until I couldn't figure out who was left at the back, I was very much reminded of Souness' decisions against Fulham. It was interesting to see a tactically astute manager lose the plot in the same way. 43349[/snapback] An aberration for Benitez, the norm for Souness, unfortunately.

Impossible to tell what you believe Craig, tbh. Fucking hell this is a shit thread.

I'm not sur about online, but I'm sure you can get a decent map from a tourist information desk. Or you could buy an A-Z - may as well if you are going to be here for a while. I've never even heard of anywhere called Fenton, I think you may have made that up!

A bit of an exagerration to say they are pitiful in the EPL. What does that then say about us? 43336[/snapback] When was the last time Chelsea beat us 4-1 at home?? In fact Chelsea haven't beaten us at home at all for 4 years! 43339[/snapback] FFS, before last weekend, when was the last time Chelsea beat Liverpool 4-1 at home? We haven't even played them yet this season! FWIW, when was the last time Liverpool were spanked 4-1 at home by FULHAM? Do you seriously think we are better than Liverpool now, on the basis of one result against Chelsea? Oh, btw Chelsea beat us at home last season in the league cup, and couldn't be arsed to play properly against us on the last day, where we were no great shakes. And don't even talk about our league away result and performance.

A bit of an exagerration to say they are pitiful in the EPL. What does that then say about us?

Spotted this story on the SMB today. I'm not surprised people are getting a bit daily mail about things nowadays, it's hard not to - anecdotally at least soceity seems to be going to the dogs. Racist or not, what a fucking cowardly bunch of cunts, pardon my language. I can only hope some horrible fate awaits them.

You just have.

Not as shite as cricket it has to be said.

You're all a bit shit, aren't you!

Aye, just been on the radio. I was trying to remember where we played on Saturday then I remembered. Need to wait and see I suppose, probably bull shit.

Oh yeah, I'd agree with that, but what I'm saying is that it can also be genetic. People can have a great life, be brought up in excellent circumstances, good education, lots of friends, success etc, but because they have a chemical imbalance they have bouts of depression, brought on by the medical condition rather than the circumstances. Like you say though, most are circumstantial where people reach a point that's difficult to get out of. 43287[/snapback] Well manic depression (bipolar disease) is an example of that, there may be others, but they are relatively rare. You're right about them though - not a lot you can if you're affected other than take the relevant medication.

Now, Im sure thats his plan 42691[/snapback] Bit skinny like. Can be really uncool and ask who she is?

I wouldn't bet on it Gemmill. There are some disturbingly high scores out there. Like AF getting 50 on Simon. 50 ffs !!!! Plus I don't think there are any accounting games.

Ahh, I'll ignore him then. Only a complete moron would believe that.

And don't be trying to steal my Pac man title again or we'll be having words.

No, you make an assessment on how likely they are to drink again, because this is directly related to the chances of their organ donation being put to good use (i.e. the recipient leading a long and healthy life). Clearly whatever assessment tools they used in Best's case didn't work. Its not about morality, its about finding the most suitable person for a transplant who will get the most of it. 43269[/snapback] Well, nowts going to be 100%. I'd say, if a bloke's stayed off the drink for a year, waited that long for a donor and then is lucky enough to match a donor, good luck to them. 43273[/snapback] I agree completely,as long as there were not more deserving recipients, which according to Maggiespaws there weren't, so fine.

No, you make an assessment on how likely they are to drink again, because this is directly related to the chances of their organ donation being put to good use (i.e. the recipient leading a long and healthy life). Clearly whatever assessment tools they used in Best's case didn't work. Its not about morality, its about finding the most suitable person for a transplant who will get the most of it.

I'm clueless about any of this, but I'm pretty sure that's not the case. The most depressing thing about being depressed is the hoplesness, not knowing the cause and the feeling of uselessness in being able to do nothing about it. It's not a case of doing something to cheer yourself up. Happy to be corrected like. WRT the Mirror article above, I only bothered with the first paragraph which was altogether shite. As I understand it George Best got the same ultimatum (stop drinking or die) and he stopped. After a year of sobriety he had a liver transplant. Why should the doctors have refused at that point. Now that he's drinking again I don't think the NHS would give him a transplant. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong. 43226[/snapback] The point I'm trying to make is that most depression is caused by a triggering factor - the breakdown of a relationship, bereavment, unemployment, living with a chronic illness etc. Hence it's reactive. It is actually a person's situation which phyically changes the biochemical function of their brain, once this has happened you are unable to "cheer yourself up". As for Best having quit drinking for a year, so what? His liver was so knackered at that stage he would have very quickly died (and he did relapse even then iirc). Obviously the prognostic tests they did to establich whether he would start drinking again were wrong.

clinical depression is a mental illness,no trigger is needed, 43143[/snapback] That's true, could be a chemical imbalance in the brain. Can be genetic. I read a story about a bloke who was very rich and very successful but suffered from clinical depression. Every so often he'd feel it creeping up and check himself into a clinic for a month or so. I suppose he was lucky that he had the money to deal with it, but it just went to show that his condition was medical rather than circumstantial. 43155[/snapback] Most depression is reactive though. Shit things happen in your life, and they eventually alter the biochemistry of your brain so that eventually you simply can't feel happy and look at life objectively - this is when you may need antidepressants. I've never been that low but I've come close - it is a truly horrible feeling.