Renton

That's all you can hear from the ground. SMB!

Absolutely loving this. I so wish I could have got a ticket.

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!

As a cynic I would say he's found his level. Fucking hell - penalty.

Get in!!!!!!!

Could be a blessing in disguise if reports of Roeder getting the job if he wins this game are true. The mackems make a habit of doing us favours. Then again, I might be talking bollocks. FFS, howay the lads, get fucking going in the second half!

Aye. I hate listening to games on the radio - very stressful.

Sounds like you need to upgrade your living room first. 122244[/snapback] He needs a crib with a cinema room like HF. Seriously though, my wide screen CRT takes up a fair bit of space, but worse, it weighs about 60Kg! I got it delivered, set up the stand, then almost broke my back lifting the bastard onto it!

If that happens I will bare my arse in Fenwicks window etc.

Exactly, I think if O'Neill went to Boro I would lose all respect for him as the only thing they can offer him that we can't is an easy life. 122226[/snapback] And i think he strikes you as somebody who likes a challenge, has ambition and wants to test himself. 122227[/snapback] Agreed. Boro is hardly a step up from Celtic, is it? 122235[/snapback] Neither are we tbh. 122237[/snapback] I think we have the potential to be, with EPL money, and a large fan base (although not as big as Celtic's, granted). But the Boro are just a poxy club in a chemical wasteland and always will be.

Exactly, I think if O'Neill went to Boro I would lose all respect for him as the only thing they can offer him that we can't is an easy life. 122226[/snapback] And i think he strikes you as somebody who likes a challenge, has ambition and wants to test himself. 122227[/snapback] Agreed. Boro is hardly a step up from Celtic, is it?

I'll go for 2-0 to us. Despite what they think, the pressure is on them, not us. Certainly, not winning or losing would not be that disastrous for us, although obviously I hope it doesn't happen. However, for them, total and complete humiliation beckons. This will be the last derby game for a decade I reckon. Howay the lads!

Can't you log in from a proxy server or something? Sure one of the techies can help. I occasionally lurk their, gave up posting after an argument with some twat who had the user name Shearer_is_a_wanker. There are some canny posters there like, and overall it's probably about the best footy board going. But fucking hell, after the season they've had you can almost feel sorry for them. Not.

CRTs aren't exactly flat though, are they? So if it's aesthetics you're after, I'd avoid them.

Like it or not, we are going to be compared to our neighbours, and our closest neighbours next year will be Boro. Bragging rights does come into it, as is totally apparent J69 if you have ever been taunted by a mutant because they won the fizzy pop cup. They are rivals, and I do not want them to win anything at all. Ever. Neither do I want them reminding me that we are in the UEFA on the back of their success. Plus, I quite like competitive summer games. We will qualify anyway I reckon.

That's them all over though isn't it? The same lot that demanded to be named in the honours list after last season. They have a major superiority complex. I've lived in shared houses with both Evetonians and Reds and found, on the whole, the Toffees to be much easier to get along with. 121826[/snapback] I have the experienced the reverse situation, many , many times. Even on here as a rule Liverpool supporters come across better than the Everton one, imo. Everton fans are sad, embittered arseholes - Scouse mackem bastards if you will! I like this generalisation game.... 121883[/snapback] I'm only going on personal experience: Toffees; affable, self-depricating Reds; arrogant, boastful, divine-righters I know we give the Evertonians stick on here as being the Scouse Mackems, but the ones I've got to know in person, have been genuine, nice people. 121887[/snapback] If the truth is told, I tend to like all real football fans in person, when you get to know them, including mackems. When they get together in groups, that's when it's different. Sounds like you have either been unlucky ot met some glory hunters tbh.

By George I think you're right... from uefa.com No mention of the winners going back in. Wonder if we'll get a backlash of Liverpool proportions (another example of whinging Scousers). 121818[/snapback] I think thought the holders did get the right to defend it, but maybe I'm wrong (personally, I think they should mind). Oh well, intertoto or nowt then.

Well, this "my disaster is better than yours" game is a bit childish really. Mind, the 9-11 disaster was a bit unreported though, admittedly.

That's them all over though isn't it? The same lot that demanded to be named in the honours list after last season. They have a major superiority complex. I've lived in shared houses with both Evetonians and Reds and found, on the whole, the Toffees to be much easier to get along with. 121826[/snapback] I have the experienced the reverse situation, many , many times. Even on here as a rule Liverpool supporters come across better than the Everton one, imo. Everton fans are sad, embittered arseholes - Scouse mackem bastards if you will! I like this generalisation game....

I don't know, do you? Fact is, it was a premiership game, and they could have easily said no. I didn't see any players complaining about it either. Look, we both agree it was inappropriate and ott. But you seem clearly to have a problem with Liverpool judging by your posts, which admittedly is not uncommon on football forums. What exactly is your dislike of them then? Make a reasoned argument rather than random insults, if you can. Oh, btw, feel free to respond to any of my points on why Hillsborough was probably the most significant event in British football history if you like.

How about St James on the Rock?

Basically, the only way we are going to get automatic qualification for Europe is if Boro win the UEFA cup and finish runners up or winners of the FA cup. Which we don't want, except for J69.

Bear in my mind that I wrote my response before I had read your latest, and look at your posts last night. Maybe you should try and make your point a bit better rather than talking about scousers "drowning in self pity". Btw, presumably it is the Premiership's decision to allow black arm bands so perhaps you redirect your vitriol to them?

Is this why we had arm bands on yesterday? Do we do that for Munich or Bradford? Doesn't bug me particularly, the randomly selected minutes silences are worse, devalues the important ones. 121767[/snapback] Yes, that was the reasons for the arm bands and ftr I think it's ott. I think outside Liverpool the Hillsborough tragedy should only be actively remembered every "significant" anniversary, and then only at FA cup games.So yes, there is a tendency for Liverpudlians to dwell too much on past tragedies, and that poem was, erm, well.... However, I think comparisons with the other tragedies mentioned, especially Munich, are nonsense. They were entirely different matters. The most similar tragedy, Heysel, is remembered in mych the same way. Bradford is also remembered. But the shear scale of Hillsborough, the human incompetence that led to it, the disgusting slurs by the national press afterwards, and also imo the revolting covering cover up by the police afterwards, make it a bit different. Also it isn't that long ago. There is also the fact that it played out right in front of eyes during a match many of us would have been watching that make it feel worse. I have seen still photographs where you can clearly recognise people (therefore seen by relatives and friends) in agony during the last moments of their lives. I'm talking about kids here, as well as adults. Put simply, it is quite a horrible spectacle which we never saw at Ibrox for instance. And as Craig points out, many football fans who suffered crushes in matches before this preventable tragedy are acutely aware it could have happened to them. Alos, and I think this is an important point, don't forget Hillsborough fundamentally changed the game in the UK and further afield, and paved the way for the Sky generation, for better or for worse (better I think). So from a historical perspective, it cannot be underestimated. Whatever people's feelings are on the event and the continuing memorials, it should be remembered that 96 football fans died that day, and it could have happened to anyone. They should be respected, which is why Sima is such a twat.