Renton

Bizarre. He's doing a fantastic job, you would think they could turn a blind eye.

???? Don't know what you mean but I am certain he would be an improvement over Souness. Not my first chioce adnittedly.

Hmmm, interesting......

Sounds like this could've been my old mate (see earlier post), he jumped off the tyne bridge at rush hour one Friday a few weeks back and landed outside the Akenside. 48083[/snapback] Haven't seen your earlier post, but that fits everything exactly. Poor sod, glad he didn't land on anyone though.

I think J69 is saying he is basically an unsympathetic type of person, which is fine, but I question whether he is in the right job. I honestly think it needs a special type of person to be good at A&E - people who give the time of day to patients with both physical and mental needs. I may be completely wrong, its only the internet after all, but this is my take on it. Your last comment was pretty naive I think. 48006[/snapback] Il think you will find my views are shared by the majority of casualty nurses around the country. last week i accompianied a doctor to tell a 17 year old lad he would never walk again after a car crash, the look on his face is one il never forget. the month before i had to put a 10year old girl missing a leg in a body bag after another car crash. I also recently had to tell a mother that we couldnt revive her cot death baby. I was also there last year when a woman lost her second child in a couple of years after he drowned at the leisure centre. These are people with problems, people who need my help and sympathy. Do you still question whether im in the right job? id like to see you give it a go. im not an unsympathetic type of person, it just fucks me off when people seek sympathy by getting pissed up and then taking a handful of pills cos they lost their job or got dumped etc etc. do something about it, dont rely on others to do it for you. 48043[/snapback] I have done that kind of work before and decided it wasn't for me - I just didn't like patients enough (one of many reasons), so I went into research. I don't know you, you don't know me, so I guess this is pointless. I suspect my main gripe I have with what you're saying is the fact you are generalising to the bit in bold above. Many people feel truly in despair and make genuine cries for help. If you don't help them, they may be successful next time. I can understand how they feel. Also, I'm sure I read somewhere that anybody who seriously contemplates suicide, and if you reach this stage you probably are thinking about it at least, is almost certainly clinically depressed.

Lost purely and simply because Souness panicked and made some crazy substitutions though.

Highly unlikely, and yes it would be unlucky. Tough shit, he's already had his chance as far as I am concerned. If he is an unlucky manager, then let's get a lucky one in....

Fair enough.

I think J69 is saying he is basically an unsympathetic type of person, which is fine, but I question whether he is in the right job. I honestly think it needs a special type of person to be good at A&E - people who give the time of day to patients with both physical and mental needs. I may be completely wrong, its only the internet after all, but this is my take on it. Your last comment was pretty naive I think.

Changing the subject slightly, my colleague was walking on the quayside by the bottom of Dean street a few weeks back when someone jumped from the Tyne bridge, and was strawberry jammed in front of her eyes. Luckily she is a doctor and can deal with this type of thing. It's a curious fact that men tend to choose more violent, and therefore more successful, means of suicide than women. No doubt some people could use this for some misogynistic argument about women just wanting attention mind.....

It doesn't mean they don't need help. In fact it means they do. And btw, plenty of people with severe mental health problems attempt suicide. Just because they don't succeed doesn't mean they are not suicidal, and if it did, so what? Just ignore them until they do succeed?

I've worked in A&E before, I still had time to be compassionate for the suicidally depressed. It was the pissed up/drugged up nutters I hated, and I'm sure 99% of A&E staff would agree with me here. Btw you're not a doctor, are you? This seemed implied by your post, that's all.

Best thread ever!

If that's true I really can't see us winning. 47961[/snapback] So, would you settle for a draw? 47962[/snapback] Depends on Souness's fate, but I don't want to open that particular can of worm again!

If that's true I really can't see us winning.

No. A draw would be a victory for them.

Huh? 4794 8[/snapback] Stadium of Light, in reference to your last comment. Nevermind, nearly the weekend!

I think you thought I was saying something which I wasn't. Or something. To be honest, if we don't finish in the top four, Souness should be banned from every football ground for the rest of his life. 47941[/snapback] Agreed. Apart from the SOL.

Rather have Ameobi personally.

How!? You can't compare the target for McCarthy with the target for Souness. A chairman (fairly) expects results from his investment. McCarthy has one target based on one figure, Souness has another based on his. I'd understand your argument if you were using Curbishley as an example, but McCarthy's no Brian Clough is he? Souness is just doing plain badly that's all. 47934[/snapback] When did targets come into it? You said "Souness is doing absolutely cack, but to compare him to McCarthy isn't very relevant IMO". Why not compare them? If Souness does worse with ten times the money, then it makes it an even stronger case that he is a shit manager, which it would appear you agree with. We're only arguing because we're bored anyway I suggest. At the end of the day, Souness must win on Sunday. Full stop.

i don't understand the "guilt" bit ? 47741[/snapback] Because he's more than likely lusting at the same time, which is a sin. 47925[/snapback] How is it possible not to lust though. Should we poke our eyes out?

Are you deliberately trying to look stupid? If Sunderland finish above us then McCarthy will have done incredibly well. Less resources for a better result = great management. I've said that Souness is doing badly, with the resources he's had it's embarrassing. I'd STILL like to see his first team play (as I'm sure he would ) I'm not excusing him, he's doing shite. 47923[/snapback] Well you sound like you're contradicting yourself to me, but then that's nothing new.

Well on the way to being an alky. It'll be thunderbird, white lightning and buckfast all too soon. 47770[/snapback] I didn't know you could still get MD 20/20. 47922[/snapback] That's why I was surprised. Not that I'd be interested now, but I wonder where he gets it from? Have you noticed that Lambrini is now almost the universal drink of charvers and piss heads in Newcastle?

The point is: Newcastle: £40m : High expectations : More pressure Sunderland: £5.99 : Low expectations : Less pressure It's got nothing to with my opinion of either manager's talent (or lack of), more that all the elements cancel themselves out. Curbishley has less money, less pressure, less expectation. Mourinho has more money, more pressure, more expectation. Souness is doing absolutely cack, but to compare him to McCarthy isn't very relevant IMO. That's all. 47912[/snapback] So, hypothetically, if Sunderland finished above us in the league, that wouldn't be relevant then? That wouldn't say something about each of the managers' abilities? FFS, more excuses, that's all I hear. This latest one being the expectation/pressure is too much. Tell you what then. Lets sell all our players and let him build a team with less than £10 M, and not put any pressure on him, except to tell him to keep us in the CL. Then we'll get better, yes? Or do you think Souness would start whinging "But I've got no money...."?