Renton

Just looked at the list price and "eek"! Fucking hell, not sure I'll ever be able to afford an electric car (doesn't make sense for us anywya currently as my wife currently gets free petrol, but that won't be forever).

Very sorry to hear about the personal situation there Rayvin, hope it works out for you. I honestly believe movement between countries will be one of the first things to improve after the election. Not full FoM maybe, but something to make your situation more bearable hopefully. It will be more than you'd get under the tories, for sure. I found the timing of Van der Lyen's "offer" odd, but it will still be on the table I reckon after a GE when it will be taken up. Although even a young one like you must be in his 30s now? Anyway, you're doing the right thing I guess, sticlking to your principles. Because as you say, on an individual level it will make no difference and you don't need to compromise yourself. Me, well, I've realised I need to compromise my ideals all the time now. Like I know my job is now to the benefit of Pharma but unfortunately to the detriment of the NHS. I mean, I can try to justify myself by saying I'm championing individual patient groups but in the end, I know this is just a smoke screen and my advocacy for Pharma companies is about transferring UK tax money to share holders. And even at an individual level, this makes real a difference. If I'm honest, there are similar issues with NUFC and PIF. Which is why for my own sanity I shrug my shoulders and do the best I can within the confines of the World I live in. I suspect most of us on here are on a similar boat.

Also the flag colours are fabulous.

Completely understandible. I'm just trying to gauge whether these ideas society is becoming more anti-semitic are true. From my perspective, which is based on fuck all admittedly, I don't think the large majority of society are anti-semitic, and I still think Judaism is perhaps generally perceived more favourably than Islam. To that end, I am wondering if what we are experiencing is an extension of the Judeo-Islam antipathy playing out in the UK, essentially imported, rather than something more fundamental happening in society, as seems to be implied. I also feel most people can seperate the religious and cultural aspects from the political (zionism). Well, people I know anyway.

I didn't read the article tbh, I simply refuse to waste any energy on her. Is it more scary to be a British jew in the UK than a muslim? Honestly do not know, though I would say the latter are usually more identifiable but also more numerous and, would it be fair to say, more segregated? I really hate the fact that these issues in the ME are affecting our society in this way.

There's an irony here in that in cities which are truly united in a football sense, that is, have one representative team, I guess it's just easier for people outside those cities to refer to the city names (Newcastle, Leeds). Whereas in cities where a team has the suffix "united" but aren't really united at all, because there is another team from the same place, it makes more sense to just used the suffix. But it still grates for ManU given they were formed years after the like of Sheffield or us. And, whereas obviously its fine for mancs to use this terminology, it NEVER is on this board. But we'll let this go for LB this time. After all, Rayvin would have been banned many times over if we adopted a more hardline approach [\mutter].

IYou mean a march supporting Israel which would likely have quite a few islamophobes in it? I agree, same issue, same likely outcome. Advised to stay away. I guess it raise more fundamental issues like do the police need to wait for a crime to happen (and possibly a violent crime) before forcibly intervening? I don't know the answer but I reject the premise the police were being anitsemitic in this case.

Is the principle really that much different from a full kit wanker Rangers fan turning up for a drink in the Hoops bar in Glasgow, or me in my famous NUFC third party merch patronising the Blandford? Yeah, you should have the freedom to do this but the police should probably deter you from doing it. For me the exception would be based purely on race. If a black person was at risk of being lynched for instance, then that protest should be dispersed. Maybe the argument is the same here, and pro-palestinian marches should also be disperesed, but I'm not as convinced on fre3edom of speech grounds.

Agreed. And the thing is, the worse the hit for the tories, the more Labour can do because their will be fuck all the tory headbangers can do about it with a handfull of MPs and a dying voter base. And movement towards the EU will become more popular with each passing year. Is this position politically fair? No its not, its a conserquence of our shit political system. But we are where we are, time for the left leaning parties to benefit for a change. Rejoining the EU is very important to me but of greater concern for me is reform of the electoral system itself.

Not sure it would be suicide but it would likely reduce their majority. And for what? At this stage, all I care about is conservative annihilation. Total annihilation. We can work out what todo afterwards depending on where the peices fall.

👇 Correct.

Fair enough. Can I just ask a purely pragmatic question? If Labour were pro rejoining, and won at the GE, do you think we could simply rejoin? Im sure you know I am as pro-EU as they come - if you look back into deep history on here you'll see I was positive about the EU long before UKIP even existed. I had the EU flag as part of my profile. But I recognise its gone for 10, more likely 20 or 30 more years. The EU will not countenance us rejoining until the eurosceptic movement is utterly vanquished. May well not happen in my lifetime. But closer alignment with the EU is definitely going to happen under Labour, the process of reconciliation will begin the day after the GE. Apart from anything else, it's the lowest hanging economic fruit available. But it's not a manifesto issue for this GE for any party, including reform and the LDs. So basing your vote on it makes little sense to me. Being pragmatic again, Labour is simply your best option and on this issue you have no representation.

Eh? Luncheon surely good chap.

Casemiro.

Aye, this. I never wanted VAR, bad refereeing decisions and inconsistency are part of the game. Now we still have these, and you feel you can't celebrate a goal any more. Instead you celebrate some decision made opaquely by an unseen official. Fucking bollocks. Momentum will now be with the manc cunts.

VAR man. FFS.

Ha ha ha ha haaaah!!!

And again. Fucking hell.

Coventry should have won it there.

Fwiends.

Hoy man, MF literally asked me what car it was. I needed to hoy in it was the black edition for my anecdote to work you absolute spenk.

Talking of which, I see that aupaalavas is being a bit obsessive again. I shouldn't knock it as it's for a good cause. As well as a virtual cycle race over the Bay of Biscay, he's wanting to get sponsored for the world's longest url.

Fuck off 0.9 litre mondeo man.

Brilliant! Aye, other than the location and age, you've described my life to a tee.

Looks like Ralph forgot to tighten a screw on the coolant line. I've got a replacement hire car which is electric. I love it and now wish I'd gone for an electric. I'm fucking tapped like. Audis are not a reliable brand, and the thing I most value is reliability. So I buy another fucking Audi.