Renton

It's fairly obvious Truss is just continuing down the Johnson path, albeit less capably and with even more incompetent acolytes. And Rayvin is still crapping hhimself about her winning a landslide GE.

Jesus Christ.

A couple of weeks ago she was saying there will be no direct state intervention to help with energy bills. She is not a woman of conviction, she is not a lady not for turning.

Did she say that or was it Starmer?

But freezing bills won't be that popular, because they won't see the counterfactual. Inflation will still be insane and very noticeable though.

Is she doing anything for businesses? That's perhaps the real challenge. She has already stated she will wait until 2024 before she has to call a GE (although that means fuck all), but what will the effect of putting the energy bill on the tab be in 2 years? Also, it's been reported that her plans might exacerbate, not help, inflation. Citibank alreay predicting 22% inflation which is a fucking HUGE drop in our standard of living as things stand. The public will feel the effect of that even if they are not freezing to death. The cap is also being set at quite a high rate so I'm not sure the public will even be that grateful.

I'm honestly not sure any of us expected a GE prior to 2024? Maybe we did, can't really remember, but if we did I'm confused about the mechanism of it. Truss being gone by February is a pure guess on my behalf, not really a prediction. I think her going would neessitate a GE this time though so it's definitely possible the government will drag on in zombie mode before their ultimate oblivion. I'm not actually happy about this as each day they are in power we are more fucked. I would also not rule out her causing a major diplomatic incident.

It really has though, imo at least. This tory party cannot and will not unite. Truss will not be as popular to the general public, especially the red wall. She has none of his "charisma". Given the tories have had a mandate for 5 years in government, and nothing can change that, how could they have collapsed any more, in your opinion?

Yep, also don't forget the apalling opposition with Corbyn and Swinson at the helm of their respective parties. Both now also remedied.

After GE 2019 the tories gained a huge majority (Brexit, Corbyn) with a 5 year mandate, of course they are still in power. But Johnson has already gone. The tories are massively behind in the polls, with the new leader making the polling even worse. Her cabinet is frankly just a joke, nobody can take them seriously. Economically we are heading for oblivion which will impact heavily on nearly all the electorate, so I can't see a scenario that polling will imminently improve, especially with her ruling out windfall taxes. I mean what the fuck more do you want to have happened in this time frame? It's like Newcastle are 5-0 up with 10 minutes to go and you are complaining they haven't won the game yet.

She ruled out windfall taxes in almost her first repsonse. Honestly man, that was a major mistake. She's lost already.

Aye, the term "Useful idiot" comes to mind, but she's probably not clever enough to be an idiot. Maybe she did answer more honestly than Johnson would have, showed her hand a bit more. But when your holding a 2 and a 7, you're best not showing it at all. Johnson knew this.

How does she believe what she is saying? She was a lib dem, now is an a right wing loon. Just 6 years ago she supported remain. She has already changed her policies since the hustings last month. She has no fucking idealogy at all, is thick as fuck, and is the worst oral performer I have ever heard. I am 100% convinced she will not last a year. (Mind, I said similar about Johnson and he lasted longer than I thought he would, but he still went).

So point 1 I think you have to distinguish between energy producers (Shell, BP etc) and suppliers (Eon, Octopus etc). As far as I am aware, the latter are making no money at all currently because of the cap. Ofgem only regulate the latter. Which is why so many went out of business last year. Of course some companies are both and these are making huge net profits. That's as I understand it, happy to be corrected. Point 2, the investment argument is pure bullshit, ignore it like any other tory lie.

I think this is the wrongest thing you have ever said!

I'll go first. February 2023. Bookmark this.

Really? Not my take at all.

She's fucking awful like. I doubt she will last much past christmas.

She speaks so slowllllly I can't actually follow her (listening on the radio). Is her strategy to send us to sleep? I'm not hearing much cheering for her?

On the record now on public record as being against a windfall tax. She's fucked already.

Soubry is spot on there. In all this, have we forgotten that fucking Jacob Rees Mogg has been appointed as minister for business, energy and industrial strategy? I mean you have to laugh or you'll cry. Caroline Lucas take:

Maybe, its just what I heard on the radio. It was probably referring to the first Cameron cabinet (2010 intake), think Wallace might have become a minister later? Regardless, the attrition rate in the government, including the top job, is ridiculous. Good job we didn't get an even more unstable government under Miliband.

It's repeating the same mistake that Johnson made. No way will Truss survive unchallenged for 2 years, the party is imploding.

Apparently Truss is now the sole surviving minister from Cameron's days, which is quite incredible.

Me too. Yeah, I can see the Daily Mail et al. bringing up the bullying line or accusing Starmer of Mysogny, be interesting if he changes his style because of this. I'm not sure he has to, tbh. Also nae fucker except us self haters listens to or reports this shit anyway.