Renton

Meenzer but he's too damn nice to argue with.

I can see the logic in it, especially as it is being introduced after Christmas so may get people to spend more before the increase. But, at the end of the day, it is a regressive tax so is inherently wrong imo.

Just make sure you use it as directed and be prepared to give it a couple of weeks to take effect. Like I say, I used to really struggle with hayfever and many other allergies, and this has basically cured it. Antihistamines have a neglible effect in comparison. Can't believe I left it this long to try it. Might be worth getting a prescription froom your GP cost wise as well.

Aye it's a brilliant move, 'don't worry guys, we're not increasing NI contributions, but we are going to increase the price of most of what you buy by 2.1%', cheers Gideon. 2.1% rise says it all really. Sorry, have you got a more accurate figure? Think about what I said. 20 - 17.5 = 2.1 Oh dear, let me explain it to you in terms you might understand. If you buy £100 of sweets exc. VAT at 17.5% you pay £117.50 Now, if you buy £100 of sweets exc. VAT under the Tories you pay £120 Now, be a good lad and tell me by how much has the price of your sweeties increased? 2.5% ...and how much did you say? Leave the lad alone. He's been paying 70% of his income on taxes under Labour after all.

Aye it's a brilliant move, 'don't worry guys, we're not increasing NI contributions, but we are going to increase the price of most of what you buy by 2.1%', cheers Gideon. 2.1% rise says it all really. Sorry, have you got a more accurate figure? Think about what I said. 20 - 17.5 = 2.1 Oh dear.

Fantastic. I was worried this plus the rise in VAT was going to make my 3 litres of White Lighning a day unaffordable. It'll be especially grreat for when I lose my job.

At the moment we have a triple a rating with credit agencies but if anything else bad happens that may change. Otr it may not. Dont confuse me with a Tory I detest the tories more than most but that has a lot to do with being from a mining family. Labour do have to take a huge share of the blame for where we are in relation to cuts and dont think they would not swing the axe too. I didn't think you were a Tory - and as I consider that a grave insult please accept an apology. The credit rating is pretty much what I was referring to - the way the UK's debt is structured compared with other countries is favourable so using a threat to that rating is particularly wrong imo. I'm also not completely exonerating Labour from blame - they have embraced international financial capitalism so have to accept consequences of that approach even if the effects are global. I also accept that the nonchalant approach to the deficit pre-crisis was a bit daft and some cuts were probably inevitible at some stage - savage cuts right now are still wrong imo for the reasons laid out in this thread. 13 years man 13 years Most of those 13 years we'd never had it so good, especially in the North East. Strangely enough the 18 years previous to this were SHIT.

Ooooh, that would put pounds on me. I think I'd stick to a plain Caesar salad with mineral water.

He delivered it like a true statesman. What a wonderful man he is.

Said it on the other thread, but if you are patient and follow the instructions, you need never have hayfever again if you use Beconase. Don't even think about using antihistamines as they are nowhere near as good.

And you reckon that most of those who answered one way or the other fully understood the issues? Do they ever. Then why post it? Becuase its a current mori opinion poll!!! Thats like saying "why have an election".... Not really. Mori polls during the election indicate who the likely winner is going to be. This is just a collection of worthless opinions, which you have used to 'back up' your own worthless view.

I've suffered hayfever for years, and tried an intranasal steroid this year. Give it a try. After two weeks your nose and eye symptoms will be gone. I think you can buy this over the counter so ask a pharmacist about it. No side effects either.

And you reckon that most of those who answered one way or the other fully understood the issues? Do they ever. Then why post it?

Depressing stuff Mr Pud. The problem for me, and many others I suspect, is the lack of opportunity in the North East both in the public sector, but especially in the the private sector. If I wanted to get a suitable job in the latter I'd have to move to some god forsaken hole like Wellwyn Garden city, but even jobs there are in short supply during a recession. The North East will be fucked over by the tories yet again, of this can there really be any doubt?

I've 'upgraded' easily enough but can't say I'm happy. My synched photos now look shit - they've gone all pixellated and blurry. I've googled it and it is a real problem. Apart from that there's nothing in this upgrade I really want or need. No doubt this will be patched in time but its pretty shit really, don't Apple bother to beta test their stuff?

Goes to show its all down to personal taste. Personally I like Pumas and think Adidas are usually OK. Where's Alex anyway? He has a strong opinion on trainers iirc.

Dunno why but I like the idea of having a transit.... Ive always wanted a transit too With an ample supply of duct tape and chloroform?

Most 'Britons' are idiots like you though.

well, if the USA win, then we have to win too. Edit. In fact, if either the USA or Algeria win, then we have to win. Or its the plane home boys. I think England have to win or get a high-scoring draw regardless of what the others do.

It's not really my concern but I fail to see how you can improve quality of care without having objective targets. The NHS is certain to decline under this government. Of more interest to me from a personal point of view is what happens to NICE. Rumours are afoot big changes are coming, none of which will be good imo. Fair enough I was mainly asking from an insiders point of view as to how the targets culture over the last few years had gone down. Thought it may have been the sort of stuff you discussed with the nurses and doctors in the canteen over lunch. Naah, I'm quite detached from the clinical realities of the NHS really. I'm more involved with clinical effectivenss of interventions, and more recently cost effectiveness. Seriously though, I'm not being partisan here when I say this government doesn't seem to have a clue what its doing regarding healthcare. For instance, before the election, Cameron promised a chest of money for the provision of cancer treatments. This just sounds like popularist bullshit to me. Early days still, we'll see soon enough. If your not been partisan then you'll agree their decisions have being reduced somewhat by the state of the countries finances. Have you also noted that Asda is to start selling all Cancer drugs at cost. Just chatting about this at lunch. The clinicians are all agreed that the targets are being removed as a prelude to reducing the quality of service. Makes perfect sense if you think about it. Btw CT, Cameron had promised the NHS would not be affected by his cuts. Looks like that was a lie then. Charlie and the Docs on Casualty hate the targets. I suppose you enjoy waiting in casualty for more than 4 hours, or having your elective coronary bypass operation postponed indefinitely? Nope, but I would rather Charlie and his mates finish off stitching your stab wound up rather than leaving you too wait because Kevins ingrowing toenail that he rediculously attended casualty with has been waiting 3 hours and 55 minutes. Why can't Charlie do both? Actually, Charlie can fuck right off, he's the nost annoying character in the history of television.

what if we come 5th ?

It's not really my concern but I fail to see how you can improve quality of care without having objective targets. The NHS is certain to decline under this government. Of more interest to me from a personal point of view is what happens to NICE. Rumours are afoot big changes are coming, none of which will be good imo. Fair enough I was mainly asking from an insiders point of view as to how the targets culture over the last few years had gone down. Thought it may have been the sort of stuff you discussed with the nurses and doctors in the canteen over lunch. Naah, I'm quite detached from the clinical realities of the NHS really. I'm more involved with clinical effectivenss of interventions, and more recently cost effectiveness. Seriously though, I'm not being partisan here when I say this government doesn't seem to have a clue what its doing regarding healthcare. For instance, before the election, Cameron promised a chest of money for the provision of cancer treatments. This just sounds like popularist bullshit to me. Early days still, we'll see soon enough. If your not been partisan then you'll agree their decisions have being reduced somewhat by the state of the countries finances. Have you also noted that Asda is to start selling all Cancer drugs at cost. Just chatting about this at lunch. The clinicians are all agreed that the targets are being removed as a prelude to reducing the quality of service. Makes perfect sense if you think about it. Btw CT, Cameron had promised the NHS would not be affected by his cuts. Looks like that was a lie then. Charlie and the Docs on Casualty hate the targets. I suppose you enjoy waiting in casualty for more than 4 hours, or having your elective coronary bypass operation postponed indefinitely?

May as well lose and get it over with.

It's not really my concern but I fail to see how you can improve quality of care without having objective targets. The NHS is certain to decline under this government. Of more interest to me from a personal point of view is what happens to NICE. Rumours are afoot big changes are coming, none of which will be good imo. Fair enough I was mainly asking from an insiders point of view as to how the targets culture over the last few years had gone down. Thought it may have been the sort of stuff you discussed with the nurses and doctors in the canteen over lunch. Naah, I'm quite detached from the clinical realities of the NHS really. I'm more involved with clinical effectivenss of interventions, and more recently cost effectiveness. Seriously though, I'm not being partisan here when I say this government doesn't seem to have a clue what its doing regarding healthcare. For instance, before the election, Cameron promised a chest of money for the provision of cancer treatments. This just sounds like popularist bullshit to me. Early days still, we'll see soon enough. If your not been partisan then you'll agree their decisions have being reduced somewhat by the state of the countries finances. Have you also noted that Asda is to start selling all Cancer drugs at cost. Just chatting about this at lunch. The clinicians are all agreed that the targets are being removed as a prelude to reducing the quality of service. Makes perfect sense if you think about it. Btw CT, Cameron had promised the NHS would not be affected by his cuts. Looks like that was a lie then.

It's not really my concern but I fail to see how you can improve quality of care without having objective targets. The NHS is certain to decline under this government. Of more interest to me from a personal point of view is what happens to NICE. Rumours are afoot big changes are coming, none of which will be good imo. Fair enough I was mainly asking from an insiders point of view as to how the targets culture over the last few years had gone down. Thought it may have been the sort of stuff you discussed with the nurses and doctors in the canteen over lunch. Naah, I'm quite detached from the clinical realities of the NHS really. I'm more involved with clinical effectivenss of interventions, and more recently cost effectiveness. Seriously though, I'm not being partisan here when I say this government doesn't seem to have a clue what its doing regarding healthcare. For instance, before the election, Cameron promised a chest of money for the provision of cancer treatments. This just sounds like popularist bullshit to me. Early days still, we'll see soon enough.