Renton

I don't get the weather argument. If you're after good weather, this is pretty much guaranteed in Europe and it'll probably be cheaper too.

This would bother me I think. Can get all the barren landscape stuff up the Northumberland coast. It's not in the same league as Northumberland for scenery. Never been but loads of people love Cornwall. From photos it doesn't match the western isles of Scotland though imo, not even close.

Aye, there is a strange hiearchy on the hills. Something like free climbers > aided climbers > scramblers > walkers > tourists. I find walkers fully kitted with gators and poles quite irritating, sometimes with a never-used ice axe, tutting because someone has dared to go on the hills wearing jeans and trainers. Seemingly unaware that on some hills it is them that look ridiculously out of place.

He's a random posted by you. Saturday in the lake was glorious - perfect conditions - but the groove was still too slippy for me. The rocks at the side were dry but badly exposed. Also about halfway up there was a ledge with loads of proper rockclimbers. I nearly tripped over one of their ropes. That would have been an ironic way to go. Thought the daft twat looked familiar. Did the rock jockeys speak to you, or were they too cool ? Faint look of disdain as in 'wtf do you think you are doing here'. Or I could have imagined that, I had brown pants on by that time.

He's a random posted by you. Saturday in the lake was glorious - perfect conditions - but the groove was still too slippy for me. The rocks at the side were dry but badly exposed. Also about halfway up there was a ledge with loads of proper rockclimbers. I nearly tripped over one of their ropes. That would have been an ironic way to go.

Try Trailfinders Jonny. This will give you the option of splitting your time between Havana and somewhere with a beach, but take the hassle out of sorting accomodation and transport etc. Cuba is amazing value at the moment, iirc my holiday there was cheaper than going to France or Scotland! I'm going to Mexico in November which is amazing value at the moment too - hurricanes and pig flu have put people off. I'm doing that as a standard package.

Jack's Rake is fantastic. It is! The green line shows the route: I was back in Grasmere at the weekend and gave Jack's Rake a go. It was much harder than I had been led to believe! I tried to stick to the inside groove (on the right) but it was too wet to get a decent grip. This meant the only option was to swing out to the left, I almost puked when I made the mistake of looking down onto the floor of the tarn some 100 metres below me. Scarey to think that one slip and it might be all over. My hands are now covered in lacerations and my knees are bruised to hell. This is about my limit for now. The Aonach Eagach will have to wait until I have the time to develop some rock climbing skills. Did you not have safety ropes? Fuck that. How did you get down? I don't own a rope or know how to use one. You don't go down -that would be harder - you keep going up until you get to the top.

Jack's Rake is fantastic. It is! The green line shows the route: I was back in Grasmere at the weekend and gave Jack's Rake a go. It was much harder than I had been led to believe! I tried to stick to the inside groove (on the right) but it was too wet to get a decent grip. This meant the only option was to swing out to the left, I almost puked when I made the mistake of looking down onto the floor of the tarn some 100 metres below me. Scarey to think that one slip and it might be all over. My hands are now covered in lacerations and my knees are bruised to hell. This is about my limit for now. The Aonach Eagach will have to wait until I have the time to develop some rock climbing skills.

It's another Charlotte. Pronounced about the same in both languages. Cheers everyone. Nice one Adam, tres diplomatic as well.

oh god hes on the slippery slope, chasing losing bets. FFS, I went for it and now have Greece. Algeria, Honduras, and now cunting Greece. However, as people at my work obviously are not into footy and/or are members of the temperance movement, there are still three left. The organizer won't tell me what they are, but perhaps I can still recoup something here. I've been played here like. Japan. Unbelieveable. So I have now have the mighty Algeria, Honduras, Greece, and Japan on my sweepstakes. Oh, and Denmark here. Cunters.

oh god hes on the slippery slope, chasing losing bets. FFS, I went for it and now have Greece. Algeria, Honduras, and now cunting Greece. However, as people at my work obviously are not into footy and/or are members of the temperance movement, there are still three left. The organizer won't tell me what they are, but perhaps I can still recoup something here.

Not really, it's a global company. The fact Obama has started calling it British Petroleum instead of BP (its preferred term for aorund two decades) is significant.

Why though? Union flag isnt representitive of this world cup. Would the Scottish Parliment have the St George Cross on it seeing as they are not in the WC? Don't see the issue myself. There is no English parliament though, it's not the correct comparison. There's the problem- where should England show support of this kind? Perhaps I should've put this on Stevies Sensitive People thread. It's only a flag ffs. If Scotland, Wales or Norn Ireland were there, I'd have no problem at all with their respective flags being flown over No.10. Like I said, I'm not arsed. But stuck out of car windows seems a popular option.

Why though? Union flag isnt representitive of this world cup. Would the Scottish Parliment have the St George Cross on it seeing as they are not in the WC? Don't see the issue myself. There is no English parliament though, it's not the correct comparison.

Not that I'm arsed but I guess Downing Street is the home of the prime minister and chancellor who represent the whole of the UK, not just England. So, in the bizarre circumstance that Scotland qualified and England didn't, would you want to see a St Andrew's cross flying over Downing street? I imagine a lot would. Thinkits a bit naff and he's obviously just being popularist in any case. Im no cameron fan but do you not think its in the realms of possiblity that, being english, he wants to support england in the WC Well again, if Brown, being Scottish, had flown the Scottish flag, would that be OK with you?

Not that I'm arsed but I guess Downing Street is the home of the prime minister and chancellor who represent the whole of the UK, not just England. So, in the bizarre circumstance that Scotland qualified and England didn't, would you want to see a St Andrew's cross flying over Downing street? I imagine a lot would. Thinkits a bit naff and he's obviously just being popularist in any case.

I assume you're taking the piss?????????? :icon_lol: If you're not you need to go the whole hog, buy yourself a Rangers top wear it for 20 days without wash or shave a sit at the bottom of Pink Lane outside the Subway, and you've ticked all the boxes. They may mock but like me I guess the mockers havent actually tasted it. I know its been around a while but it certainly has a very nice "draught" tatse compared to normal tins. However I had failed to notice the 9% alcohol on the side and woke up with a very sore head today so will be limiting future home drinking. I challenge anyone to try a tin before posting more mockery. You liked it because the alcohol content would have given you a that warm euphoric feeling - that's why bamps drink it. But to compare it to a real Belgian beer is simply ludicrous. Have you ever tasted a proper Belgian beer? I liked it because it tasted like a freshly poured draught and not like the usual tinny tasting flat stuff that comes out of tins. I would bet very good money that you havent even tried it. Not since I was a student, no. Can't believe I'm having this conversation. So thats another no It's a yes, actually Are you really this dense, or is it a hangover? No its a no, dressed up as a yes, but still a no. It's not like, it's a yes. I can fully remember the taste and consistency of special brew and the taste of real Belgian beer. Still can't believe this conversation.

Which one would you like me to say Alex so you can have a good old sneer down your very long snobby trout Leffe gets the most hits on Google.

Just make sure you do it in person. I wouldn't apologise like. I'd pretend it never happened. The holocaust? Just gets worst tbh.

I assume you're taking the piss?????????? If you're not you need to go the whole hog, buy yourself a Rangers top wear it for 20 days without wash or shave a sit at the bottom of Pink Lane outside the Subway, and you've ticked all the boxes. They may mock but like me I guess the mockers havent actually tasted it. I know its been around a while but it certainly has a very nice "draught" tatse compared to normal tins. However I had failed to notice the 9% alcohol on the side and woke up with a very sore head today so will be limiting future home drinking. I challenge anyone to try a tin before posting more mockery. You liked it because the alcohol content would have given you a that warm euphoric feeling - that's why bamps drink it. But to compare it to a real Belgian beer is simply ludicrous. Have you ever tasted a proper Belgian beer? I liked it because it tasted like a freshly poured draught and not like the usual tinny tasting flat stuff that comes out of tins. I would bet very good money that you havent even tried it. Not since I was a student, no. Can't believe I'm having this conversation.

Stella has gone down hill too, probably because they've reduced it's ABV. On the plus side, Peroni is becoming common - surprisngly good on draft imo.

That was kind of the joke, or am I being double whooshed by you again?

I assume you're taking the piss?????????? If you're not you need to go the whole hog, buy yourself a Rangers top wear it for 20 days without wash or shave a sit at the bottom of Pink Lane outside the Subway, and you've ticked all the boxes. They may mock but like me I guess the mockers havent actually tasted it. I know its been around a while but it certainly has a very nice "draught" tatse compared to normal tins. However I had failed to notice the 9% alcohol on the side and woke up with a very sore head today so will be limiting future home drinking. I challenge anyone to try a tin before posting more mockery. You liked it because the alcohol content would have given you a that warm euphoric feeling - that's why bamps drink it. But to compare it to a real Belgian beer is simply ludicrous. Have you ever tasted a proper Belgian beer?

As my company is learning the hard way at the moment, off the cuff comments sound a bit more serious when they're being read out in court and reported on the front page of the Irish News. People are misconstrued all the time on here, even with the benefit of safety winks.

Well once you've built "rapport" you expect banter. You said she was new. Which is why the story just doesn't ring true. Nobody says stuff like that except with people they know well enough to know they're very unlikely to take offence. I reckon its all an act on here with you Stevie tbh. Not saying that's a bad thing like, you're entertaining enough usually. I work from home most of the time, and in London at two/three week intervals, as I only came back from London 12 days ago after a stint, I only met her 4 weeks ago, but she's been with the company 8 weeks. Got on really well with her, she took the piss out of me and me her, general banter, but she's got emotional about this comment. Whether it rings true to a paracetomol mixer like you is inconsequential to me, a waste of finger cells for you. Really? You're coming across as a bit over sensitive.