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same argument as I have with any manager, everybody's hands are tied by ashley and changing anyone but that is going to make fuck all difference.

Yeah and that great memo was a really good comeback.

Hate to go against the grain, but I reckon this mob mentality is doing us no favours. Ashleys getting off scot free here, and yes pardew is shit, but seriously who the fuck thinks were going to get anyone who can work with this. We're fucked either way and Ashley has had his scapegoat handed to him.. People on this forum even saying that Colo's been shit forever and awful for the dressing room, now that's just fucked... he was brilliant for us before all this bollocks. We can have alex fucking ferguson and he'll do fuck all with a club that clearly is in it for the revenue and barrow boy cheap buying high selling. Ashley must be laughing all the way to the bank with sackpardew.cok, yey! Another 2 years he can have to systematically leech the club while the new manager is "given time". Its getting that bad for me, that I wonder if we would have been better if we werent't "saved" and fat freddy did drive us to bankruptcy.

All this talk of Pulis or Moyes makes me cringe. So hopelessly optimistic ...

Yep you got it trophy, horrible innit. But I think we all know the reasons that Pardew is a poor manager, but who do you think would take the job? Out of the bookies list above I dônt believe any of them would take the job, let alone do any better. My view is the better a coach does at NUFC the more likely he is to lose the players that perform. Ashley really is playing the club like a sports warehouse, and probably gets a hard on at the sums of money hes gambling with, buy at 5 mil, sell at 10+.

Too true mate.

I voted no. I believe we cannot attract anyone better and the best long term interests of the club are for Ashley to sell, which he'll only do if either the club makes a loss or his SD investors lose confidence in his brand. I've felt this way ever since hughton was sacked. Pardews track record is not one that shows any evidence he will get us out of the championship, in fact one that we may end up in league one. Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy about thinking that but a big financial disaster seems the only way out for our abused and exploited club. I'll play along though, I reckon we'd only get someone like Michael Appleton, but after his Portsmouth experiences he's well prepared for Ashley regularly chopping and weakening his squad.

I reckon you're off your head if you think Pardew is getting shipped out, and even more so if you think we'll get anyone even anywhere near his poor standard as a replacement. And why the Beardsley hate?? Unbelievable to me ....

The bloke is shite... lol. ok then fella, whatever you say. Talk about extreme to extreme

You don't say...

didn't bite ey.... well its a damn sight better than threads about it being too early to judge Rivere etc...

I'll join this as I like a good HMRC conv with you ewark. I thought that footballers aren't contractors in the līmited company way anymore, HMRC and the FA put a stop to that back in 2012. Or am I mistaken? Also I was for many years a contractor paid into a LTD, and I was an employee , not of the end client but of the LTD. Tax, sick pay etc were all the LTD's responsibility, but ultimately (unless there was a MOO agreement in) the end client WAS tied to the contract terms of employment (cough, enagagement) so you could litigate for the full amount of pay if engagement terms were changed midway though. Bottom line for me is that Hatem is being harshly treated and if hes an employee as I believe all footballers now have to be, he could press for constructive dismissal, but if he is working through his own company then he can only really push for severance with his entire term paid up, bu is ūnlikely to win anything if the club can say he has acted unprofessionally. My 2 cents

whs, though I think cabella has potential, need 20 games or so to judge

Villa fans making themselves look like a set of twats

I must be watching a different game, and yeah andrew, i meant a midfielder would be better in the box than him right now, fuck me williamsons made more space for himself in the box. Hes weak as fuck and constantly static behind defenders.

Anita vs riviera for sub candidate, how the fuck does anita lose that. Wtf is he doing in that vid above?

Well, rivieres just useless :/ hope its just the new league cos he's possibly the shittest striker I've seen in a while at nufc at the moment. Rofl at cabella to williamson in the box, great pass but williamson's volley attempt, he's daydreaming if he thinks he's scoring that, man.

Jaanmat (?) has put in a good account of himself at least.

A little harsh, fuck the premier league, fingers in eyes are never normal. Flat performance from the team though, gouffran must have ran twice as much as most players so far (towards his own goal) and yup riviere looks woeful

stay as it makes fuck all difference whos manager with mike just after free advertising and his money back. To those saying we are the same as lots of other clubs, I dont remember anyone elses having lawsuits and publically recorded scandal than what was shown in the keegan trial. Anyone who would willingly work under that isn't worth having, thus we have pards for the foreseeable.

Heh, interesting he said it before his testimonial rather than afterwards , I thought.

I'd be happy with 3.

I disagree, given hes using it as a platform for SD and hes egotisitical, he will if the media rightly mocks him.

Lol, still with the defense of all this. I get to say I told you so to those giving me grief earlier in this thread. "i fully expect at least 2 transfers" being my personal fave. Now if only next window these peeps remember the previous ones and stop with the hopeless optimism. Ah well, as nufc.com says, if we dont get injuries we might stay up at least.

until he goes daaaahn