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A taxi would work out cheaper.

Rock/paper/scissors tournament: match abandoned.

Language, Noelie.

The contents of Tiote's nuts?

:icon_lol: @ this thread. Tears rolling down here.

it's an extract from a book written by 2 people who have studied football and business, and the effect on business in football. You should read a bit more and educate yourself It's for those who insist that football clubs that go into debt go bust, because they do not in by far the vast majority of cases. I'm not "presenting an argument" by the way, I'm been saying "for all these years" that football is all about winning on the pitch [without dispute] and in the case of a club like NUFC a team that is winning on the pitch the sky is the limit.If others disagree, some of whom have only been going to games or watching NUFC for a few minutes, that is their problem. I know what it says like, but it's a terrible arguing point all the same, backed up by some equally terrible illustrations. Football has gone from being an unnaturally stable business (due to illegal, protectionist employment practices) to an unstable one (due to the advent of normal employment practices converging with insane amounts of money) in it's very recent history. Quite what the fuck the great depression and the second world war have to teach us about today's football finances is beyond my powers of deduction. You can 'educate' me if you want to explain though. For me it actually defeats the point that it's trying to make. As to the point about winning on the pitch, well obviously I agree with that, but some of us are trying to take a more forensic approach to how that's managed. Why can't you participate in that discussion? It's more valid than dealing in cliches and rehearsing old debates. Seriously.

It'd have been class if he'd then went into the bogs to wash his hands like. Neil's not an animal after all.

Fucking brilliant. Coming out of him like a yellow cable as well no doubt, it's always an extra long one when you've been on the sauce.

Btw Holden and Wacky's stories there are fucking horrible. Holden's particularly given the kid involved. You'd just be devo'd. I know cheating goes on and thats bad enough like but when people string it out for years and just let someone else live a lie it's a disgrace. Dont know how they can consider themselves to be in any way a good person. You can only hope theres better relationships out there for both of those lads and that one day they'll be able to say 'thank fuck for that'. How that works with a three year old child though I've got no idea. Perhaps he should sue her for all the maintenance he's paid and see how funny she thinks it is then.

Was there CCTV or did Chez follow the piss trail back to Neil btw? I cant remember that bit of the story, but I thought I heard mention of CCTV at one time. Possibly Chez's ruse to get a confession like.

No way in god's green earth they're going to sell him though. Am I right in thinking he left Man City for more money? That was I believe the story at the time, more money and happy to sit on the bench. He was a youth at City though (albeit having emerged into their first team). He wouldn't have been one of their top earners I can't imagine. I would imagine his next deal would've been decent though. Aye it would no doubt about that, daft money whether he stayed or went. He wasn't a Manc though (I think he's Brummie) so I assumed he just went to London because he thought it was better than Manchester.

Papa Laz widdled all over Chez's mate's gaff once.

No way in god's green earth they're going to sell him though. Am I right in thinking he left Man City for more money? That was I believe the story at the time, more money and happy to sit on the bench. He was a youth at City though (albeit having emerged into their first team). He wouldn't have been one of their top earners I can't imagine.

Aye, best of both worlds. Dunno how realistic though. Think this is where we might struggle under our self-imposed spending constraints. Theres always a premium on strikers (who are in contract anyway) and other clubs will know we've i) got a horrifically flimsy forward line and ii) perceive that we've got £35 million knocking about. Not that that sort of pressure will result in Ashley spend over the odds, but I think it will see a few potential striker transactions fail at the final hurdle when it becomes clear to the selling club that he actually won't give them the balloon payment they'll be expecting.

"I only want to help you Ro-land!"

Gerd Muller and Platini for me (design wise).

I wish him the nest, but fear the worst.

What the fuck is that article about? Great depression, second world war etc etc. Football had a wage cap til Jimmy Hill ffs. And it had illegal contract clauses (transfer fees) til Bosman. You're not kidding it was different to mainstream business and no wonder it was fucking stable as a result. The point is that since those things (wage cap/abolition of illegal transfer fees), together with TV money, player wages and power have now become so demented that it is now an unstable business. Unless you've got someone bankrolling you. But then if you have got someone bankrolling you, you have to do what they fucking say unfortunately and you're at the mercy of who that individual is. Btw seriously: "For comparison, the economic historian Les Hannah made a list of the top 100 companies in 1912, and researched what had become of them by 1995. Nearly half the companies - 49 - had ceased to exist. Five of these had gone bankrupt, 6 were nationalised, and 37 were taken over by other firms. Even among the businesses that survived, many had gone into new sectors or moved to new locations" So five had gone bankrupt in 80 years? 37 were taken over. Cadbury were 'taken over' this year ffs, but it wasnt because they'd gone bust. Quite the opposite in fact, it's because they were massively massively profitable and hence attractive to a competitor. That article is one of the worst pieces of anything I've ever read. Do you actually evaluate the quality of what's being said in an article Leazes or do you just quote anything that holds itself out as supportive of your viewpoint? Seriously it's utter cobblers. Even all these years later it astonishes me how you present an argument.

Erding is going to cost a bit in booze as well because whenever I hear his name I want a pint. Mind you I could say the same about Ba. Black Sheep? I'll give you that one.

Erding is going to cost a bit in booze as well because whenever I hear his name I want a pint. Mind you I could say the same about Ba.

Fuck me gently! this place....

Incidentally, for completeness, I thought Ashley was going to be a 'piss-his-own-money-up-the-wall merchant' too. And he was to start with.

Man City were bought by Shinwatra a month before Ashley bought NUFC as well. Aye, and that was another crazy takeover by any standards. Plenty of money chucked about under that administration (absolutely detached from City's own revenues) before he had his assets seized.

Why is it a criticism of people that they didn't predict Man City's Arab owners btw? I dont get that. Nobody was clairvoyant to predict that about City specifically, but it wasn't beyond comprehension that clubs would be bought up and be bankrolled. There was a time not so very long ago when you'd hear takeover rumours every other week and they were usually of the piss-money-up-the-wall variety that had the potential to skewe the entire status quo in an instant. It just turned out to be City (and Blackburn etc) but it could have been any one of a number of clubs. Portsmouth fans will tell you that It was just symptomatic of how daft football was getting, so yes in the general sense it was eminently predictable.

One for the predictions thread when someone gets a chance. Under this current owner of course but yup put that in there! Yeah, I assumed you meant the last bit. Defo one for the thread, seeing as that's what its there for.