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The Mitchell Johnson song is class mind.

She was just a session knitter before she hooked up with Lennon.

To those that have met him it seems to be the consensus that he's just monumentally thick. Ie one of those that bombs along at just above the special needs bracket.

If that soup spelled out "Pipe down" it'd be class. Especially if it was scalding hot.

Hasn't aged a bit tbf.

As it stands, i'm the biggest middle class charver going. 'Loves cowies, tack, happy house and Voltaire'. "What can you say about Chez? That he loved cowies, tack, happy house, Mozart and Bach, the Beatles and me"

Well they are led by the media and they're namby pamby do-gooders cow towing to them, people that don't like Oasis and U2, are the same people who bury their head in the sand forget what the Halls and the Shepherds did for us....... Class thread tbf.

It didn't end well btw, if you want a potted version.

Are chavs and charvers really the same thing? They have different connotations to me. I was just under the impression chavs were from down south and charvers were from Newcastle. Whats your definition? I don't really have one, but the southern chavs you see on the likes of that documentary don't really seem like Newcastle charvers, Liverpool scallies, or Glasgow neds. I get the impression chavs can be quite wealthy, for instance buying designer clothes, but have no class. Isn't Julie Burchill a self-confessed chav? Whereas here, being a charver is more than just having a bad fashion sense and mindset, its about being part of an underclass. Could be wrong like. My impression of a Charver is the stereotypical Elswick mob hanging around talking out of their nose, listening to happy house & calling each other a radgie. They'll drink WKD or cans of lager on street corners and get fog on from their mates 20 a day habit of Regal. They'll hate the police though won't really know why and have fun throwing their empty bottles at passing fire vehicles. Their mastiff dog will be called Cowie and their Mothers will be about 13-15 years older than them. They will have gold hanging from every limb having not realised how much they could make weighing it in, they will walk like they have displaced hips and their nasal tone will want to make you put your foot through their face. They have the inability to be alone, much like a pack of dogs. Also like a pack of dogs they will have no issue in shitting on their own doorstep, whatever form that takes. They all sign on but think its shocking that they only get however much they do as it barely covers the cost of their regular "ounce". You could have at least given it some thought before you answered.

Look at his use of language!!! Manc is Kclass. The horribly forensic scrutiny of language that comes with a legal education I'm afraid. Oh to have kept up my English Lit studies instead.

I think I've said a couple of times that I recognise my personal "hypocrisy" - before working in banking, I worked in the IFA industry which I have even more contempt for. I don't really feel too guilty about it - I like having a decent lifestyle too much. Alex is also right - I do hate everybody, but that's not job related - and also I guess in contrast to being a socialist but I'd argue that's more about people as a whole rather than individuals. Fair enough tbh. And as you rightly allude, you've always been completely up front about the 'split personality', it's certainly not like you try and pass yourself off as holier than thou or owt.

Is the fairest but least 'revenue generating' option for the goverrnment. Completely agree with the priniciple though. Redistribution of income relies on a careful balance between thresholds and population sizes around those thresholds. Also, some people might work very hard to end up with 2m quid but if 50% of their effort is taxed at 90%, they might not make the effort. Or their incentive structure changes, which has an impact on the economy, taxes and therefore social spending. yep, and people who make these arguments tend not to understand the dynamic nature of wealth creation and think any talk like this is conspiratorial (not that that doesn't also exist). I'm socialist like, but I have no problem seeing JawD's point of view, particularly given how he generates his money as a business owner. On a 'but for' test, but for him setting up on his own and taking risks with his families income/security, there'd be fewer jobs about as he employs people. But for him (and his family) those jobs wouldn't have happened. I think that's a fundemnetally different mindset to someone who's salaried, doing a job in relative security in an existing organisation that someone else would be doing if they weren't. Ie but for them it would be someone else. And I say that as someone falling into the latter category. I've a lot of respect for someone in JawD's position in other words. At the same time I err more towards Renton's personal views about inheritance (who wouldn't be more proud of kids who were independent as opposed to reliant?), but I have a problem with enforcing that model on everyone. Ewerk's proposal is the best in theory, but Chez is no doubt right about the practical shortcomings. I just don't know if the Toontastic General Chat thinktank can solve this one.

Wonder how that would have worked out? One of us topped the other two then turned the gun on themself? Should be an interesting suicide note like "ROFD"? (rolling on the floor dying)

No, it wasn't a euphemism. Although he could be for all it matters to me. Financial services then. Ie money lending.

Actually it's not a contradiction as such, forgive me, the two just seem markedly out of kilter.

NJS....not being at all funny like but I've always noticed a contradiction between your job and your politics. Isn't your job entirely about the acquisition of wealth in the pure sense? Money lending iirc? I confess it's intrigued me for a while now.

Lynn, are they your mothers cataract glasses?

Won't be overtaken by cars? He's on a bike....sounds like a bt of a frootloop to me.

Dave in a threesome Just not going to happen if he can't be the centre of attention.

Wakes to a full moon. That figures.

Esky? Slab?

Brilliant literal contradiction right at the end which just clearly hasn't occured to Prezza.

We can do these. They're no Aldershot tbf.