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I forgot about Alex. His dad is a judge.

Renton currently peering into the thread through his stained glass window creation.

When he turns to the side they're actually in single file.

You're more than likely being sarcy, but NEVER took those two as middle class. The Fish is from near Blyth ffs. It's like being middle class from Gorton. Gemmill grew up in the Far East and had a nanny ffs. I'd class Fish as standard middle class but aggressively aspirational. Meenzer couldn't be working class because he likes cock.

Upper class is establishment shirley? Old money, petty aristocracy, wealth from the land, inheritance, perhaps titled. I'd say middle class was the most varied corpus out of all of the three. Both my grandads were miners and worked down a mine so I've no doubt my roots are working class, but I couldnt honestly go around using the word 'corpus' and call myself working class, so I spose I'm middle class. I reckon jobwise I couldn't sensibly claim to be anything else either even though I can't fucking stand the profession or anyone in it. I console myself in the fact I'm not as middle class as Gemmill, Meenzer or the Fish though. This thread is starting to feel like that John Cleese/Two Ronnies skit on The Frost Report btw.

Needless to say, you had the last laugh.

That one in Goonies is one of the hobbits

Thats what prompted my thinking. I reckon most of the currently are middle class these days - no matter what they think they actually are. Then again, that depends on the definition. Aye good point. You want to start a thread asking what the definition of class is tbh.

via relegation. Inevitable, when Shepherd has littered the club with overpaid SHITE that we couldn't move on because they were too happy here on their astronomical wages, TBH you mean Beye, Bassong, Milner, Given, N'Zogbia, Martins, Owen and Duff...all of whom are still at the club and haven't moved on to clubs who have performed better than us since they left ? Can I ask you again, ref your "14th in the table", do you also think Brian Clough was a shite manager because he left Notts Forest relegated ? An answer would be appreciated this time. I wasn't alive at the time, so am not in a position to comment Completely different comparing a manager to a chairman I'm sure you agree You only need to judge the situation by the facts, was Clough a shit manager because Forest were relegated in his last season ? isn't it you who is insinuating the chairman is the manager Was Clough a shit manager by the time he got relegated? Well yes. He was a raging alcoholic and suffering from the onset of dementia. Baffling you keep asking that tbh. Over the course of his career he was a brilliant manager but the two European cup wins had occured about 15 years prior. Were you expecting him to win another two European Cups if he'd stuck around after the relegation season? The point is he'd run out of ideas and was finished. A point which has parallels that I suppose you just can blissfully ignore when you're thick as fuck.

Heap big agreement with you there, little plum.

Or maybe he just had 1 great season and a WC. Yeah, that's the way I see it tbh. Never a great player by any measure.

I was praying for 700.

When he left the toon for Chelsea it signalled the start of our demise to be honest league wise, but to be fair Chelsea didn't give him the platform he needed neither. Fucking hell.

With you ceremonially walking onto the pitch, arms folded and shaking your head each time, until the 19th game.

This. Seriously will never ever trust the bloke. He wants to make a statement of intent? Accept a reasonable offer for the club, cut your losses and accept failure to win us over. Oh aye and take your fucking SD ads with you too. I used to think Shepherd Offshore and Cameron Hall took the piss but it's nowt compared to this clown's outfit. This. In reality though, and this is testament to the man's character. The man is a reckless gambler who has refused to underwrite his own losses as well. This is a pretty recent story. After England lost to the Croats in the European Cup qualifier he/SD tried weasel out of a contract by refusing to accept delivery [and thus not pay, i think it was Umbro - i can't remember if it was them, or Adidas after they bought out Umbro] of a bulk sized amount of replica shirts. Over 10 000 were to go Lillywhites alone. He simply got in early [before his competition did], ordered a massive quantity in bulk at a bulk/cut-price deal before England actually qualified. Basically it was his intention to saturate the market while savagely undercutting the oppositon. His problem was [and he is a gambler] the fact they he failed to carry out due diligence, re: ordering up before the qualifiers had run their ourse. The gamble blew up in his face, and he was determined to not to bear any financial losses relating to his flawed judgment/gamble in this instance. He refused to take delivery [as mentioned] and Umbro threatened to sue for breach of contract, for which they had an iron clad case. Ashley [shite Direct] reluctantly took delivery, but still had the cheek to demand credit notes for each unit/replica that were to be eventually unsold. The point being when in comes the ramifications of his poor business related decisions [where poor judgement is involved, thanks to a lack of due diligence] and the idea of accepting responsibility & accepting a financial loss [reluctantly taking a blow on the chin like a man of honour] doesn't compute where this man involved. I dunno you'd characterise that as a 'failure to do due diligence' like. That's just a commercial gamble. FWIW I imagine he doesn't ever do due diligence in his acquisitions. He probably can't see the benefit given the cost involved in doing due diligence checks only to be warned against a purchase. It wouldn't appeal to the gambler in him at all and tbf by and large the acquisitions he's made (I suspect without dd or with only the most cursory of checks) have made him an absolute fortune. We are obviously the noteable exception.

Aye. RIP. Best get the thread back on track.

Good supply of opium down the coast is there????? Next two home games are Tottenham and Arsenal we'd need to win both to have a chance. Bolton are in pole position, and the dippers will bounce back once WOY is sacked later today. I've got very little time for this "we could qualify for Europe" after one win and then "we're going to get relegated" after one loss that's happening on here at the moment, but I'd like to think we could beat Spurs at home if we can put a team out. If Everton can manage it then I'm sure as shite we can. Arsenal on the other hand I just don't think we'll see enough of the ball that afternoon.

Gallagher didnt end up much better like.

Craig reckons he's put three stone on since the last exisitng photographs of him btw. Out of his head on test they say.

From when Blondie fires the cannon to when Tuco is opening Arch Stanton's grave, is the best background music in any film ever in human history, has the potential to put hairs on the beck of your neck even after you've seen it 100 times. Wouldn't argue with a word of that. The bit where Tuco's getting weighed in by that big hairy gripper in the POW camp-genius counterpointing of violence and soft music. First time I'd seen that done though I'm sure someone better versed in cine history will tell me it wasn't a first. Aye when they're all singing playing the flute. One of my favourite bits of the film when Tuco kills him the fat bastard. You can't help but love Tuco so many contradictions from him. The bit where they're leaving the monestary where Blondie's been recovering they get on the horse, Tuco says to Blondie "he loves me brother he always says pop by for a nice bowl of soup", and Blondie gives a class smile cos he's just seen them knocking ten colours of shite out of each other Tuco's fucking class.

From when Blondie fires the cannon to when Tuco is opening Arch Stanton's grave, is the best background music in any film ever in human history, has the potential to put hairs on the beck of your neck even after you've seen it 100 times. Wouldn't argue with a word of that. The bit where Tuco's getting weighed in by that big hairy gripper in the POW camp-genius counterpointing of violence and soft music. First time I'd seen that done though I'm sure someone better versed in cine history will tell me it wasn't a first. It wasn't a first You learn something every day tbh.

Not sure Leon was in the Beatles like.

Is he thinking of Pete Best?

From when Blondie fires the cannon to when Tuco is opening Arch Stanton's grave, is the best background music in any film ever in human history, has the potential to put hairs on the beck of your neck even after you've seen it 100 times. Wouldn't argue with a word of that. The bit where Tuco's getting weighed in by that big hairy gripper in the POW camp-genius counterpointing of violence and soft music. First time I'd seen that done though I'm sure someone better versed in cine history will tell me it wasn't a first.

I used to love watching Oliver Twist at me gran's when I was a kid. On the subject of Paul Newman, I really like Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. We had to watch it in A-Level English and I was the only one that liked it. In my top ten and got it for xmas after having had it on VHS for donkeys. The film's hardly good source material if you're studying the book like. Paul Newman actually better looking than Liz Taylor in the lead roles.