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We would've turned our nose up at him four years ago. 99% of players are possible in my view at an established Premiership Newcastle United. Amir Zaki is a legend in the Arab world, he's at Hull and played for Wigan. What are you talking about man? "Legend in the Arab world"...we're not talking about Sami al-Jaber here, it's Amr Zaki. He can't even get a game for Zamalek. He keeps getting loaned to England because he's not professional enough - or good enough - to hold down a first-team spot even in Egypt ffs. Ever since he scored that massive goal in the CAN his head's been swollen to ridiculous proportions. Nothing can stop his ego now, not being too shit to even play one game in Russia, not his dismal second half of the season at Wigan, not his shite performances in Egypt's qualifying. As for his club, Zamalek don't want to play him, he's just a cash cow for him. They get loan fees in and they get his wages off the books, and maybe someone will even be dumb enough to exercise the option to buy. Just wanted to let you know how ridiculously inaccurate that statement was. Maybe I should expand my advice for you from "stick to football" to "stick to English football." But I guess you've seen him score a couple for Wigan and now you think a) he's actually good and Egyptians think he's God, both of which are far from true.

Can't say I'm bothered.

Last season he looked alright as you say. This season he's been crap and AWOL all the time as well.

Going to break his nose again, the potato-faced buffoon.

your insults do you no favours. As I said, you know nothing about me and aren't going to find out. My views are based on life experience and not by reading a book by an out of touch "intellectual" Have you ever actually met a Muslim? Even one? I'd say my experience of Muslims, Islam and Islamic society trumps yours, Leazes, by virtue of me being one and working, living, playing and just generally associating with probably thousands of them over my lifetime. I didn't need any books, "intellectual" or otherwise, to tell me your ridiculous views on an entire society of people are wrong. So unless you're about to tell me you're actually an Islamic scholar and world traveller (two l's just for you!) whose theories are backed by years of research and proof, I'm holding to the view of "you don't know what you're talking about." Getting back to the OP, the ironic thing is that I don't even support burqas or really anything but the simplest of hijab. The burqa isn't part of Islam - in fact, and many people don't know this, when Muslims make the pilgrimage to Mecca, completing the most significant event in the religion, they are expressly forbidden to have their faces covered. Burqas and other restrictive coverings are born of two things that feed off each other - the remnants of tribal culture and civilisation, and the radicalisation of areas that still hold to those views. The reasoning goes "well, if Muslim women are meant to have their heads covered, and that's sunna (permitted and encouraged), then covering more of them must be even more sunna." Places like those have assigned low value to women for thousands of years, well before the advent of Islam, which changed little. I'm thoroughly against that kind of enslavement of women as most sensible people are. The trouble is that some honestly do choose - whether due to pressures familial or cultural, or a misguided desire to adhere to their religion faithfully - to wear such things, and I don't feel it's the state's right to dictate whether they can or not. And I also feel that if it were, let's say, Hindus or Jews that had to wear facial coverings as part of their religion rather than Muslims, then we wouldn't hear a word against it.

He's gash, they spent 18mil on him, and they have seventy other strikers. But most importantly, he's gash.

I still think - although this could just be me - that that excuse was brewed up to explain why Fat Sam was shunting him out of the club, because he knew it would irritate the fans. I didn't think he wanted to leave and I still don't.

Egypt Reserves already through, Benin desperate for a win, and they're a capable side. I've got 2 on £20 on Liverpool 11/8 2-0 Villa 4/6 6-4 Nigeria 2/5 3-0 pays £110 :) and....£5 on Sevilla 6/4 1-0 up Dundee 10/11 1-0 Southampton 9/5 1-0 Fiorentina 8/11 3-2 Benin 3/1 :angry: pays £463 iirc Well I got one of them up. 7 out of 8 results isn't bad, but it's tinged with regret when you look what I could've won. You just keep betting against Egypt and losing. You should add a new rule, like you always say "back Man U at home": "don't bet against Egypt in the ANC." They've not lost at that tournament in nearly 6 years man.

The NR logo looks off but otherwise canny. Don't much care for the seahorse business on the away shirt, can't be arsed with those image imprints and such on all the newer kits.

So, Leazes's response to my well-reasoned and logical posts was "you're a yank, fuck off." Brilliant Your response to try to prove you aren't just a bitter, uneducated xenophobe with an inexplicable grudge against anyone not English is "well you're not from my country so nothing you say could possibly be accurate." Jog on you old loon Listen to you you sad old man. "Those who support Muslims" "those with Muslim sympathies" etc etc. Haven't you got that not all of us are bombers yet? Or is that what your "vast life experience" has shown you? If so, I wonder what you were doing experiencing terrorist training camps, since that's the only place on Earth you could've "experienced" the nonsense you're spouting. What does that say for your sympathies? Get used to us Leazes, we're here to stay. As for spelling, well, when you live and work here, went to school here, lost points for using the "wrong" spelling of words, you learn to adapt. So I see your "born and bred" comment Stevie and I won't dispute the "bred" part. We are what we are.

Might've known you'd mention something twisted like this. You'll be mentioning food getting shipped to England in the 1840's next. He said that the British army hadn't murdered innocent civilians, I provided an example of where they did. Their own civilians I hasten to add. why are you so anti british It's amazing isn't it. Imagine living here and not supporting great British traditions like the murder of civilians, torture and the erosion of rights. ...oops hang on, I've got it wrong there. What I meant was we're proud to be British when we DON'T do those things and kick off big style when it happens....rather than sweep it under the carpet and pretend only the baddies do it. so when are you plotting the next shopping centre bombing Patel ? Patel is a Hindu name, not a Muslim one, you dullard. Just goes to show how thick you are. You probably think everyone from the subcontinent is a 'paki' and anyone from east of there (that is, anyone with 'slanty eyes') is a 'chinky.' Welcome to the 21st century, Leazes. Maybe if you and those like you actually tried to learn something about the people who make up an ever-rising proportion of your country instead of closing your mind and wishing for them to be sent back, you'd see that Britain may be different now, but no worse for it. I don't actually give a flying fuck if it is a Hindu or a Muslim name. Why are you so knowledgeable, does it have anything to do with your sympathies ? You ought to wake up, the use of the word "paki" [not that I have ever used it on here or in real life anyway] is no different to the use of the word "brit", "limey", "taff", "jock" etc etc.......its people like you who attempt to say that it is because you are, yes, a do gooder left wing pc correct pillock. The population of my country will in the not too distant future hit the 70 million mark, and yes you are quite right when I say this is becoming a dangerous level which is part of the reason I say what i say along with an ever increasing amount of pillocks like you who think they can tell me what I can and can't say in my own country. I wasn't aware it required one to be "knowledgeable" to be able to differentiate between names. I'm sure you can identify, let's say, O'Brien as an Irish name. Does that mean you have Irish sympathies? More specifically, does that mean you have Irish terrorist sympathies? Because that's your obvious insinuation when you talk about "sympathies." Also, I never said anything about "population", I said "proportion." As in, the proportion of British citizens who are of South Asian and in many cases Muslim descent is increasing . So maybe it'd be better to learn about your neighbors and fellow citizens rather than continue your self-imposed ignorance and so blithely refer to them as 'Patel' when it is inaccurate at best and rude at worst (a more UK-centered analogy: referring to an Irish fellow as 'Jock' or a Scot as 'Paddy'.) Maybe if you understood these people - who are British, no matter what you say - you wouldn't have this irrational fear of them. And I think that would be better for everyone. exactly my point. And - as you don't live in Britain [the US?] you are in no position to comment on the current positon in Britain, which in my view you are totally ignorant of, unlike myself because I do have first hand experience of life in Britain. I don't also give a toss if you think it is "rude" [get a life and some backbone] to call someone "paddy" or "jock", and coming from someone who [presumably] lives in the US and is made up of all the 57 varieties of mongrels walking this planet its a bit rich. One thing they ie the yanks, do get right though, is to make immigrants swear allegiance to the US - or do they ? you can correct me on that if you feel I am wrong but "yanks" I have met - and good friends too - tell me that this is correct. By the way, "neighbours" is the correct spelling, not "neighbors" learn to spell English correctly before commenting on the intelligence of others. I think anyone who isn't worried about the social impact if nothing else on a Britain with a rising population that is approaching 70 million has a problem to be honest, it won't affect me now so I don't "fear" it either I think detaining terrorists like the yanks do is perfectly correct and would like us "brits" in Blighty to do the same, in fact I would put the lot of them on Death Row and shoot them all, what a shame you appear to be a "yank do gooder" I didn't realise they existed like they do here, and find it quite sad that you perceive yourself, as a do gooder, being "intelligent" when in fact you are typically a blind naive idiot. So, no answer at all to any of my points, and just a load of bluster and nonsense. Shall I call you Fop mark II? What on earth do swearing allegiance, the "57 varieties of mongrels" - FFS man - and detaining terrorists have to do with what we're talking about? You been hitting the bottle again? The fact that you honestly, truly think that opposing the actions of a government is tantamount to opposing the nation that that government represents is more indicative of intelligence than anything else we have discussed. That sort of nonsense is prevalent among the "yanks" - people who publicly oppose the illegal, corrupt and immoral actions of the US government are branded "unpatriotic", put on watch lists, detained etc. - but I didn't know it had infected England as well. Let's hope you're just one old drunken idiot on your jack-jones spouting this crap and that it isn't prevalent, since as you say, I am stuck over here 'across the pond' and I don't know what the situation in England is as well as you do. You didn't understand my point about "paddy" and "jock" either. Not understanding appears to be one of your only strong suits. I said calling Muslims Patel is the same as calling Scots paddy or calling Irish jock. Doesn't make sense. Is wrong. Like you.

Might've known you'd mention something twisted like this. You'll be mentioning food getting shipped to England in the 1840's next. He said that the British army hadn't murdered innocent civilians, I provided an example of where they did. Their own civilians I hasten to add. why are you so anti british It's amazing isn't it. Imagine living here and not supporting great British traditions like the murder of civilians, torture and the erosion of rights. ...oops hang on, I've got it wrong there. What I meant was we're proud to be British when we DON'T do those things and kick off big style when it happens....rather than sweep it under the carpet and pretend only the baddies do it. so when are you plotting the next shopping centre bombing Patel ? Patel is a Hindu name, not a Muslim one, you dullard. Just goes to show how thick you are. You probably think everyone from the subcontinent is a 'paki' and anyone from east of there (that is, anyone with 'slanty eyes') is a 'chinky.' Welcome to the 21st century, Leazes. Maybe if you and those like you actually tried to learn something about the people who make up an ever-rising proportion of your country instead of closing your mind and wishing for them to be sent back, you'd see that Britain may be different now, but no worse for it. I don't actually give a flying fuck if it is a Hindu or a Muslim name. Why are you so knowledgeable, does it have anything to do with your sympathies ? You ought to wake up, the use of the word "paki" [not that I have ever used it on here or in real life anyway] is no different to the use of the word "brit", "limey", "taff", "jock" etc etc.......its people like you who attempt to say that it is because you are, yes, a do gooder left wing pc correct pillock. The population of my country will in the not too distant future hit the 70 million mark, and yes you are quite right when I say this is becoming a dangerous level which is part of the reason I say what i say along with an ever increasing amount of pillocks like you who think they can tell me what I can and can't say in my own country. I wasn't aware it required one to be "knowledgeable" to be able to differentiate between names. I'm sure you can identify, let's say, O'Brien as an Irish name. Does that mean you have Irish sympathies? More specifically, does that mean you have Irish terrorist sympathies? Because that's your obvious insinuation when you talk about "sympathies." Also, I never said anything about "population", I said "proportion." As in, the proportion of British citizens who are of South Asian and in many cases Muslim descent is increasing. So maybe it'd be better to learn about your neighbors and fellow citizens rather than continue your self-imposed ignorance and so blithely refer to them as 'Patel' when it is inaccurate at best and rude at worst (a more UK-centered analogy: referring to an Irish fellow as 'Jock' or a Scot as 'Paddy'.) Maybe if you understood these people - who are British, no matter what you say - you wouldn't have this irrational fear of them. And I think that would be better for everyone.

Might've known you'd mention something twisted like this. You'll be mentioning food getting shipped to England in the 1840's next. He said that the British army hadn't murdered innocent civilians, I provided an example of where they did. Their own civilians I hasten to add. why are you so anti british It's amazing isn't it. Imagine living here and not supporting great British traditions like the murder of civilians, torture and the erosion of rights. ...oops hang on, I've got it wrong there. What I meant was we're proud to be British when we DON'T do those things and kick off big style when it happens....rather than sweep it under the carpet and pretend only the baddies do it. so when are you plotting the next shopping centre bombing Patel ? Patel is a Hindu name, not a Muslim one, you dullard. Just goes to show how thick you are. You probably think everyone from the subcontinent is a 'paki' and anyone from east of there (that is, anyone with 'slanty eyes') is a 'chinky.' Welcome to the 21st century, Leazes. Maybe if you and those like you actually tried to learn something about the people who make up an ever-rising proportion of your country instead of closing your mind and wishing for them to be sent back, you'd see that Britain may be different now, but no worse for it.

Brian Laws confirmed today. Pretty terrible appointment I'd say...going from the bottom of the Championship to the Premier League is always likely to be a recipe for disaster. I think Burnley fans will rue the day Coyle left for a long time.

What do you think of Westerners who would do the same and say it's in the name of their religion too? I can name you a few if you like. Are you really so fucking stupid you don't understand what you're saying, or are you just being deliberately dense? What you are doing here is criticising people who are making a peaceful protest against something they do not believe is right...by saying that instead, they should do what the real terrorists do and take up arms against Britain. So you are simultaneously calling Islam backwards with your anti-gay anti-women rhetoric and then criticising its adherents for doing something the "modern" and "democratic" way, suggesting they should instead retreat to the stereotype of violence that they are so often tarred with as it is. Congratulations, Sheikh Leazes. You are doing the terrorists' recruiting work for them. Allah akbar. There's no winning with a dopey, doddering old cunt like you evidently and honestly I don't think you even know what you are arguing. Whenever anyone refutes something you say or even proposes an alternative viewpoint, you change your focus and throw up some of your usual bullshit, either about the Halls and Shepherd or about your personal dislike for the poster.

for now You and sima, manc mag doesn't count Aye, Stevie'll be along to support you shortly and the two of you can hit out against the bad bad brownies all on your jack-jones. Two red-blooded Englishmen against the world. Well-adjusted people know that this kind of shit is an infringement on personal rights no matter how you paint it. sadly, you know absolutely nothing of me and my backround when you say this. In my view, well adjusted people view those who preach that we should put up with this bollocks as their "rights" as being foolish pc correct imbeciles. Exactly what 'bollocks' might that be, by the way? The 'bollocks' of being allowed to wear whatever you choose? Should we be banning band t-shirts next, or flat caps?

for now You and sima, manc mag doesn't count Aye, Stevie'll be along to support you shortly and the two of you can hit out against the bad bad brownies all on your jack-jones. Two red-blooded Englishmen against the world. Well-adjusted people know that this kind of shit is an infringement on personal rights no matter how you paint it.

well realistically, who in SSNs audience does give a shit? only two players apart from adebayor play in england and they are people I've never heard of. one for villa one for plymouth Fun fact about Moustapha Salifou, the Togolese Villa player - since he joined Villa in 2007, he's made 4 appearances for Villa and won 40 caps for his country.

Has done nothing since the goal against Watford.

I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Good riddance is right but once again it just shows how incompetent this club is, can't even get a simple sale concluded without some mystery. I'm reminded of the ridiculous Lucas Neill business last January.

Sad but true. I'm sure we'll hear that in not too long. Getting Joey Barton the decent footballer from 3+ years ago would be like signing a new player. Getting Joey Barton the player we've seen in spits and spats since he signed for us more than 2 and a half years ago is not like signing a new player. Christ it's hard to believe that he's been here that long, surely even Owen was available for us more than Barton? I think Happy Face did the numbers, and yeah, Owen had a better rate of appearance for us.

This is what I'm most afraid of. Hopefully we could at least get them to overpay but considering our track record with City, well...

Probably Nolan as well, bottom three PL clubs would gladly take a punt on him at this point I'd think. Maybe even that Bolton return that was discussed earlier in the season. Colo might go as well. Pretty much anyone who was in our first team in the PL.