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£5000 staked by 100,000 members. That would get us a decent kitty after paying off Arseface. I'd be up for it. 99,999 to go. Facebook group anyone?

Re. your first question there are dozens of shakey videos and mobile phone footage of 'UFO's' uploaded to youtube every day. Search for UFO and sort by newest. You could spend your whole life analysing them, proabably debunk many but not all. A thought experiment is applied when no actual experimentation is possible. It is theoretical based upon known quantities and proposed outcomes. Others may reach different conclusion to me. Good on them. There is no verification unless something undeniable happens to me (personal verification but likely to mean nothing to the masses who probably already think I'm a wacko anyway) or something occurs to the population at large and broad agreement about it's nature is reached. We can all have theories about what all this shit flying about might be. One person believing they have heard the voice of God does not prove God, nor does billions of people believing in him/her. We need to meet God, have full open discourse, explanation, cross referenceable proof, repeatable results, see a miracle, have it ratified by numerous independent bodies, full debate and probing etc etc... same applies for anything unknown and outside of our current understanding. Currently we seem to have broad agreement that God exists, incidentally. Even if half the US president's staff and a camera crew were taken up into a UFO, met with aliens, were given pictures of the home planet and gifts the like of which we cannot imagine etc etc, it's highly likely we as a population and individuals would discredit it as Hollywood or a stunt or manipulation...I don't see how we will accept this unless we either have an Independence Day type event (not necessarily with the extermination bit) or are drip fed the truth over years and decades until we have slowly carefully been shown what reality is. Would anyone have the prescience to do that though? I ask you this, if our world leaders do happen to know about the existence of extra-terrestrials or are even complicit in their remaining outside of our reality, which of them would ever have the courage to let the genie out the bottle? The fear of the ramifications of potentially, radically altering people's perceptions of our place in the Universe would likely be enormous. But I think little would change, it might take a generation to accept it as a norm, but we'd all still need to work, get along, fuck eachother, drink beer, worry about climate change or General Motors etc. It might just be nice to know we are not alone. Sadly I think when, if, it does happen it will be used as another control technique to supress the masses into compliance to further the power base's agenda. Maybe this partly explains why we don't know about them.

I say next season why not go for 3 or 4 owners. High managerial turnover is so passé, plus it's unlikely we'll ever break 08/09's magnificent effort.

Aw, Gordon, you're a really, really nice person yourself.

I think that fella, pretty obvious that one. I'd imagine everyone knows this by now, however, life has evolved around pitch black deep sea underwater vents with the energy source being hydrogen sulfide and not the sun, bacterial life exists in rocks miles underground, also under enormous pressure. Life not reliant on our 'perfect' set of circumstances. These conditions are so different to our own that it doesn't take a massive leap of faith to say if life is here, there and everywhere on Earth then why not amongst the billions etc etc etc. I believe it is crazy to put us alone in the universe and given that, if there are other expressions of evolution elsewhere, also crazy to think we're the most evolved, biologically or technologically. Of course we currently have no way of knowing, it's a thought experiment and that's all I have. Sightings, video, actor's terrible drawings and other people's stories are less compelling than those thoughts to me. Why would there be a grand plan to keep themselves hidden? It's not Star Trek you know. Theoretically there could be numerous visitors, we might just be another stop on an intergalactic safari. Trying to keep themselves hidden implies they are either godlike or concerned with affecting our development...maybe they are trying to do the latter by being obvious? Maybe some hide, maybe some don't. Maybe they don't give a fuck as they deem us so far beneath them, who knows what the fuck is in their heads...if they are indeed here having a proper gander. It pisses me off that we give so much respect to the many splendoured, horribly diversive and destructive fantasies of religion and yet people who take this subject seriously are still considered wackos by society at large. Sightings and stories from people, who often know they will only attract derision yet still feel compelled to share their experiences, are often dismissed automatically by very intelligent people. Why are people so quick to reject, so reluctant to entertain this as a considerable possibility?

Our technology gone from feck all to wireless portable everything for all in a few thousand years. We've evolved from 'rats' in 65 million years. The universe is circa 13.5 billion years old, allegedly. Could be 6000 years old, of course. It is madness to think we are the only ones, further madness to think we are the most evolved, and we keep breaking through all perceived 'barriers'. When we develop interstellar travel what is going to be the most interesting thing to have a deek at? Life. So why wouldn't others come and check out this particular zoo? That is all.

Hippocratic oath bonnie lad.

Our large support and total lack of trophies is an easy equation for derision. Sells papers, gives the masses an extra option for banal conversation.

£8m?

I think it will be £15m after any sales tbh.

that's below you Stevie.

I think we'll piss it. There I said it.

If only our own Nigerian had such accuracy. He'll probably claim he was on the bus.

cube shaped object drawn by actor over Norf London. http://www.muswellhilljournal24.co.uk/cont...3A41%3A12%3A497 Actor stunned by 'cube UFO' over Muswell Hill nlnews@archant.co.uk 28 May 2009 ACTOR Sam Lathem’s sketch of the object he saw above Muswell Hill MUSWELL Hill's growing reputation as "Roswell Hill" for its mysterious night-sky activity has taken another alien turn with the latest UFO sighting. Actor Sam Lathem was so spooked by the appearance of a large cube-shaped "ship" with orange lights erratically making its way across the sky he sketched an image of the floating object. SAM LATHEM: 'It was about the distance of a football pitch away and the size of a small truck' The 44-year-old, of Ellington Road, said: "What was really peculiar was it was a cube and had orange lights coming from underneath and it was such a close-up view. "It was about the distance of a football pitch away and the size of a small truck. It slowed a bit and then suddenly went off again. "It was really strange because there was no noise and you would have thought at that distance it would have woken up everybody on the street. It doesn't make any sense." He claimed to have spotted the UFO outside his window for about 30 seconds before it shot off towards Alexandra Palace at about 10.30pm last Wednesday. He said it was his first close encounter of something he really could not explain. "Whatever the military are up to or whatever the aliens are doing it was just weird," he said. "I think we're all being a bit silly to live in denial about it. "The weight of evidence is really building up - and especially now I've had this encounter which I felt was so personal." Other shock sightings reported in Muswell Hill in the past include a bright orange ball the size of a helicopter, and a silver two-pronged ship which whizzed across the sky. If you saw the UFO, contact the Journal newsdesk on 020 8342 5777 or e-mail nlnews@archant.co.uk

Get him popping up and down in tin can alley tbh

Considering we have just been relegated I agree, it's been refreshing.

I asked him a week ago if he would fuck off if we were relegated and he gave me his word. CBA to hunt for the post. maybe he has genuinely fucked off?

far too many great chances volleyed mindlessly into orbit. No hope of him staying anyway. Let's hope we can get an auction going for him.

shrivel like a deformed newt under the glare tbfh.

You see I think our sticking with the club shows the opposite of caprice. But here's a nice picture anyways....

Capricious fans..... Caprice.. An impulsive change of mind. An inclination to change one's mind impulsively. A sudden, unpredictable action, change, or series of actions or changes: A hailstorm in July is a caprice of nature. Let's have an honest discussion then. Not you yourself, but toon fans as a whole...do you think they are accurately described by the above? I don't think many on here are but we don't have too many chavs. As a whole, are we capricious? The nation's most too?

Every cunt has an opinion on us yet we are not a big club. The reason we have not won a trophy is because we have not won a trophy. I would say the biggest contribution to that is, by far, boardroom mismanagement. But that's not too controversial or having a pop at some remote northern monkeys now, is it?

I think Andy Carrol will do well in the Championship. That is all.