The Fish

If we're talking about who we'd like shot of, I'd love to see Pulis and Allardyce both go down in the most predictably boring relegation ever.

I've proven that liquid will surround a ball, curving with it. You ignored it. No, enter Newton et al, with years of hypothesis, rigorous experimentation and testing of that hypothesis, and proof or rejection of that hypothesis. Followed by decades of other brilliant minds poking at the hypothesis from every engle, looking for and sometimes finding inaccuracies or errors. Well, their thoughts, their videos, their instruments and every thing else. Unfortunately that doesn't satisfy Wolfy, because.... Well no reason other than his arrogance. It does, and people have been there to measure the cold, the atmospheric conditions, and so on. Yet nobody, in the history of humanity has ever come close to the edge of your proposed dome, have they? Nobody, even when people believed we lived upon a flat earth. But you said the sun goes up and down, now you're saying it orbits this dome? Within the dome? That would mean, at specific times the sun is lower than the roof of this dome, so people could fly over it, right? Right, and the globe has been proven, your theories have no proof. None whatsoever, not anecdotal, empirical, mathematical...ecumenical...

Aye, all it takes is a key player getting injured/losing form, the board getting twitchy and firing the manager or just the rest of the league cottoning onto how to beat you.

If I were him I'd fuck off to China before I'm entirely found out.

well, no proof that you'll accept, but proof that has been scrutinised, challenged, picked apart and put back together for centuries by the greatest minds. Obviously you know better than Newton, Archimedes, Galileo and so on Then of course there are the brave men and women who have ventured into space and seen with their own eyes the globe, and of course the brave men and women who've flown at the reaches of our atmosphere who can see the curvature of the planet too... but they're all in on it, right? I'm not listing them all. You are connected to the internet, google it fucker. Why is that an issue? If you believe it, do it. You needn't reach the edge, just prove there is a measurable change in temperature and density that isn't explained by the current model. No I don't. I see a sun passing from east to west, over my head. If the sun was central it would rise and fall on the same horizon. It doesn't. That's explained by the current model, and you've shown nothing that proves it's denpressure.

I think unless the two other teams get significant investment, they'll be favourites for the drop. Even then, their finances aren't going to be enough to dramatically improve squads who finished beneath us in the Championship. Who'll be the other struggling teams next season? Watford, Swansea, Burnley?

No you can't as they have proof, both physical and mathematical Literally thousands of videos on youtube showing experiments you can do in your own home to prove it. Why don't you accept what has been proven and scrutinised for centuries, ahead of theories you're literally making up? Hang on, how close to this denser ice can one get? And were I to venture in that direction I would be able to measure the drop in temperature, the increasing density of the earth it stands upon? Right? No, I see it arc across the sky, I see it's path change depending on the time of year and so on. Prove we're being squeezed by it.

Think whoever comes up with us and Brighton will be odds-on for the drop.

Too many people still nervous about those markets because of Carr's missteps. I think Carr's big black book, + Benitez being in charge means we won't be buying Cabellas or Rivieres, it'll be players fit for purpose.

No, not at all. I'm saying disprove the consensus, or prove your theory. There are reams of proof, centuries of experimentation and records supporting the status quo. And that proof, those experiments and those recored are scrutinised and challenged by enquiring minds. You don't even have the theory fully worked out in your own mind. You believe the earth is a dome, travel to the edge and prove it. You believe the sum goes up and down, prove it. You believe we're being pushed down by denpressure, prove it.

Bet he doesn't even record his ideas in a code incase they discover him.

This is not the day he tried to live

Nah, at least Wolfy keeps his nonsense to one thread and isn't a massive racist (I hope).

For me it's infuriating when someone's claiming to know more than me, when they patently don't. e.g. I tend to steer clear of the Politics thread because the frequent contributors are more up to speed, more informed and have more fully formed opinions on the subject matter. This bellend is trying to tell me that Satellites don't exist, tried to tell Rikko that his career as an engineer for Nuclear Subs is a web of lies, and trying to tell Parky he's wrong about conspiracy theories. Then he weasels off with "I't just my opinion", "oh you don't understand because you're indoctrinated and not open minded like me", "oh I can't prove anything, but the proof you have is unacceptable to me as well" There'll be a tipping point where I can't fucking stand it and just stop replying, but until then...

Right there is your biggest problem. Rayvin has succinctly and considerately argued against your position, he's taken time to explain it in a way so as to be clear and concrete. Your response? "Nah it's a dupe".

Prove it

Point of order, the globe model absolutely doesn't stop exploration beyond the planet, but you've repeatedly claimed that your ice dome is impossible to leave (and that it's impossible to get to the centre as well). You keep claiming your idea is common sense, but you're having to make up entirely new paradigms to crowbar into your theories. Cellular collection of worlds, denpressure, a central sun that rises and falls within the dome (which, just thinking about it would mean it's possible to fly over (behind) the sun, right?)... And when pressed further you say "I don't know" and when asked to prove it you say your "proof won't be accepted because we've all been brainwashed" into believing the proven consensus. Would you accept that kind of poorly laid out argument in competition with your own?

So if you accept that, why do you reject exactly the same scenario occurring on a bigger scale? A helicopter "leaping" vertically inside a pressurised container (the atmosphere) from the earth and returning to where it took off from?

Ah, now see, when you use actual grammatically sound sentences your silliness seems less silly. So you accept that passenger jumping vertically within the confines of the plane will land where they took off from?

How condescending is this? You literally wrote a sentence that doesn't make grammatical sense, let alone scientific sense. "A plane with a pressurised tube going against an atmosphere with the plane itself creating the friction on itself." Why does a plane have a tube with it? How is the plane creating the friction on itself?

This is senseless. Try and type your thoughts again because this is a garbled message.

What do you mean? This reply is unclear.

Not listening to any scout reports from you sunshine. Not after the Sissoko debacle.

So you believe if a passenger jumped up in a plane (s)he would lurch back towards the rear of the plane. It's travelling at hundreds of miles an hour, after all.

"You mention the Earth being a north and south pole magnet," Lying lies lied by the liar Put simply; moving objects want to move in a straight line, Earth's gravity (and the moon's) pull the moon away from that straight course. Pretty simple stuff Wolfy.