Zathras

If that's referring to the infamous coffee burn case, I feel I should point out the real facts of that case.... The woman was given coffee which was heated to over 190 degrees F (that's 88 degrees C) which is MUCH higher than the suggested safe temperature for serving a beverage (but was McDonald's standard temperature in their manual) When she was given the coffee and it spilled, she suffered 3rd degree burns on her thighs and genitals, resulting in the need for several skin grafts from her back which cost upwards of $20,000. This was not the first instance of this injury; McDonalds had had warning of the danger of serving superheated coffee yet continued to direct its employees to do so. The woman sued for ONLY the medical expenses, and the other damages were PUNITIVE. The point of punitive damages is to provide a deterrent for repeated offenses. The amount required will differ with defendants. If Gemmill beats me up, a punitive award would be less than if Kieron Dyer beat me up. It's not because Gemmill is less of a twat, it's because a fine of $5,000 is significant to Gemmill, but pocket change to Dyer. I'm not commenting on the the case in the first post, however, as I don't know the circumstances of it as yet. How hot is a cup of coffee when you pour it from a freshly boiled kettle at home? Coffee should be *brewed* at approximately 90 degrees C. It should be SERVED at about 65-75 degrees C. One serving coffee at home is not a. Serving it in a paper cup b. Sitting in a car c. unaware that it is being served at a temperature at which it is unsafe to drink because it would burn your esophagus.

If that's referring to the infamous coffee burn case, I feel I should point out the real facts of that case.... The woman was given coffee which was heated to over 190 degrees F (that's 88 degrees C) which is MUCH higher than the suggested safe temperature for serving a beverage (but was McDonald's standard temperature in their manual) When she was given the coffee and it spilled, she suffered 3rd degree burns on her thighs and genitals, resulting in the need for several skin grafts from her back which cost upwards of $20,000. This was not the first instance of this injury; McDonalds had had warning of the danger of serving superheated coffee yet continued to direct its employees to do so. The woman sued for ONLY the medical expenses, and the other damages were PUNITIVE. The point of punitive damages is to provide a deterrent for repeated offenses. The amount required will differ with defendants. If Gemmill beats me up, a punitive award would be less than if Kieron Dyer beat me up. It's not because Gemmill is less of a twat, it's because a fine of $5,000 is significant to Gemmill, but pocket change to Dyer. I'm not commenting on the the case in the first post, however, as I don't know the circumstances of it as yet.

Got your wish then.

What the fucking fuck is fucking going on with these fucking fucks??!?

How good is Cerny? He's second behind Cech for the Czechs, so that's hardly a good indicator...

They get to play 'diddy' teams and still move up places, how fair is that? the methododly is published - all you have to do is to choose who you want to play - you still have to win mind - an England home defeat at Wembley by Andorra wouldn't help much............ I know how it works, the post was in reference to previous discussions and banter with Zathras about the good ole U.S. of A and their qualificat I know you know. But if a team wants to climb the rankings they can always choose their games to fit........... Not really true. And you should no better than to try to make such a point on such a discussion without realizing the history of the topic.

Rocky is GREAT! Utterly ridiculous turn of phrase, always good for a quote or six. As far as advancing the game at hand, he's not so great, but he's a riot. example quote: "Without penetration, it's just masturbation and they've been playing with themselves for 45 minutes."

Well, at NFL games, I suppose you need to find SOMETHING to keep your mind interested...

Thank God I wasn't there! The crowd were doing that fucking Mexican wave at the Stad De France (sp) last night - I had to press the mute button, it was so annoying. Maybe Mexico should be nuked for giving the world this most annoying activity?? Came from America originally. Which makes it an even better plan. I thought it had started during the Mexico W.C in, er '86 (?). No matter; wherever it started should be dispensed with That's where the name comes from. It was around in the US before that though. You used to see it at NFL games etc. It was around long before the '86 World Cup. That's just when you insulated Euros were exposed to its horror for the first time.

I'm just glad we have commentators that do not induce an automatic "mute" button pressing.

New Zealand are better than you'd think. ... and since the new playoff for Oceania is against the 5th place Asian team, I'd expect them to have a decent shot. Unless they lose to Vanuatu again.

They get to play 'diddy' teams and still move up places, how fair is that? Not only that, we haven't won since June!

Part four... finally http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1774305

Generally, I think they should attend games, but every game is a bit excessive. Even if I love something, if I'm spending 5 days a week doing it for 8 hours a day, (a standard work week) I'm not necessarily going to want to watch it done by others on my day off.

Definitely agree.

DaMarcus Beasely's goal against Mexico in the 9/5/05 World Cup Qualifier. Winning goal to put us into the cup against the Green Rats.... perfect.

I'm willing to be most of the English media will disagree with you on that one Because they're biased. Owens was a great goal, but at best it was 3rd behind Bergkamps and that Cameroonian guy's goal against Austria.

Always will remember that goal in 1998 vs. Argentina. Best goal of that tournament, tbh.

Franck Dumas, tbh

Is it just because I've only been able to see highlights and text commentary or is Butt getting more involved in the attack under Allardyce?

Glad to see Scotland winning. European Championships and more so the World Cup are both enhanced with Scottish sides fans involved.

Since until 1996 we didn't have a professional league in my country (OK we did but there was no coverage and there was no team within 2000 miles of my home) I was forced to become primarily a fan of the National Team. Since then my loyalties currently lie with my hometown club, then the USA, then Newcastle, then whoever is playing Italy, then whoever is playing England.

If he'd gone elsewhere where he'd been first choice at any of the multiple opportunities he's had to do so, I fully believe he would be in the England squad. Depending on form and performance, he could have been anywhere in the mix (1-3.) As it is, though, unless he goes somewhere for first team football, he'll never have to chance.

So where do people think he will end up? What jobs are open? (and high profile enough) Who might pay enough to interest him? Who might he fancy building with? Portugal? One of the Italian clubs? Barca? I'm actually going to suggest the USA even though I think it's extremely unlikely. The only thing that got me thinking was that the USSF announced that they were looking to appoint a sort of "Director of Football" position for the national team program. They've certainly got the money, and the anonymity he might want after the whole English tabloid treatment....