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Completely agree with that. I've got the box sets of both of them. The pilot episode of BFTBS is set in Middlesborough and is much more light hearted, reminds me of what Auf Wiedersehen Pet later became. Regarding Liverpool, I was there for three days this spring, and lived there for 5 years previously. The transformation of the city centre is nothing short of amazing, comparable to the quayside now and like it was in the 80s. I don't really know how anyone who has actually been there recently could honestly slag it off. Of course some of the surrounding areas are utter shit holes, but then if you visited Newcastle you'd hardly stay in Byker or Benwell, would you? Definitely worth a visit imo. What's wrong with Byker and Walker like? Better than Kensington, Everton and Anfield by a million miles.

Looking at this reminded me of a good few cracking goals Raylor scored this season which I had forgot about. Speaking of Raylor, we've got Raylor, Saylor, Naylor allegedly signing today, we just need Maylor from Bolton, and Paylor as a coach and we've got the whole set.

Haha actually not had owt from there for a while... I think you've just sorted out tonights tea for me Never been for years, 5th best chippy I've ever been to.

£70,000 a week Mike Ashley, 70k. Do they put white powder on your chips, at Stargate Chippy???!!

Again, what's this with wages? Our wage bill is actually lower than Everton's these days that's what these gimps are forgetting as I said speak to one Everton fan you've spoken to them all. A thick mob of doilums, who lack personality and fluidity in their views, I've heard this for years off them. So fucking thick. Our captain has just left over a qwage/contract issue, our best player is leaving because of a similar thing, "ey la dem Jardies pay de wages only reason anyone wid join dem inbreds, why wid ye tehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhn down de Evehhhtun wyy for dem blehhhhhhts?? Money". Mongs.

A foreigner (even if he has been here a while) would have a colder view though Stevie - he'd see Everton's stability as a plus - I think you're right by the way but could see it being true anyway. A foreigner will be aware of Newcastle United over Everton though. He'd see the facilities, regardless what we think of Ashley there's money to invest in the team through the AC money and now Nolan, he'd see we've just signed someone who plays for his adopted country, he's obviously aware of who our transfer targets are, he'd be aware that our stadium is like a Rolls Royce compared to a Talbot Avenger at Goodison, he'd see a fanbase that is akin to U2 compared to Black Lace. He'd see a team that in recent memory were competing in the Champions League in March. Everton are skint, they can't compete with West Brom money wise let alone us, just a totally unattractive proposition. Or he'd see a team that has done nothing for many many years... hell even in your golden patch of the 90's we won more than you lol! He'll see a team that got relegated recently and a graveyard for many foreign footballers who came to you and were never heard of again. So yes you have a nice stadium, but you have a complete mong in charge, you think your reputation as a club is second to none, when anyone I know who supports another team (Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, Sunderland) think your club is a joke. You lurch from one pr disaster to another, one footballing disaster to another, and yet you still think everyone looks at your club through the same rose tinted black and white spectacles you do. Its just not the case. There are 2 sides to every story, you have a lovely stadium, and a very passionate and loyal support... both things should be recognised as being a big positive factor, I have not denied that at any point on this board. However you have MANY bad points to your club, and that is the reason you've won nothing in 50 years and why no-one takes you seriously as a major force in the game... your poor league finishes also back up this viewpoint. My club doesn't have the nice stadium, and has less fans coming through the turnstiles... however you are a one club city and get 55,000... Liverpool is a 2 club city and gets gates of nearly 80,000 between then clubs, so I dont see much difference there. We have excellent stability, consistent high placed finishes, and an excellent manager - all big draws for a player who isn't motivated by just money alone. We take players and develop them, we make them internationals and give them a home where they want to stay for the rest of their careers (in the main part i.e. Cahill, Tim Howard etc) Please stop harping on about being in the champions league nearly a decade or more ago... I can hardly remember it so I hardly think anyone other than you lot give a rats arse about it. The day we care what mackems and Everton think is the day we chuck it? Why would we care? Explain why we would care. It shows we exist that you have an opinion, our only opinion of Everton is that it's a very boring club who no one really cares about and that's it. As for Sunderland they live to hate us. We've won nothing for 42 years not 50 years. No one views us as a major force, aye and they were all piling on Everton to win the Champions League in 2005 eh? Look in the mirror before you say something like that. Why do you use the argument of one club city? I don't see what relevance it has, all you do is highlight the reasons we have a far larger fanbase. This argument about the stadium makes me chuckle too. What relevance does it have? Again you're scoring own goals highlighting our better infrastructure. Everton never fill a 40,000 ground, you'd look like Wigan if you had our stadium. You have no money. Kenwright is skint. It costs £28 to watch your biggest game of the season, you do not have the fanbase or finance to compete. THAT is modern football, and in the past your Ipswich's, your Forest's, your Villa's and Everton's could do something because it was less about the size of your club and more about how well it was organised. The fact is the way things are going, no one will ever compete with Man Utd and Chelsea without a rich benefactor, all I'm doing is giving you reasons why we are a more attractive club for a player than you are, and your counter arguments are pish, especially when you're saying we've won fuck all, and you've won one trophy in 25 year, two bald cunts arguing over a comb that mate. Besides in the last 15 years at least we've put title bids together, correct me if am wrong but I'd be amazed if you've had a Premiership season where you've been within 25 points of the champions. Sorry 42 years... those 8 years make such a difference now that you've pointed it out Other than wages I dont think you are an attractive club... I dont the we are either... The top 6 are, yet you, us and the rest are always going to be 2nd choice to any player wishing to move to this country. You see i can admit that... shame you lot think the sun shines out of St James' rear car park Of course we're not but even with Ashley we are the most attractive club outside of the 6 big teams at present for all the reasons I've discussed. If you can't put a reasonable counter argument up you should pipe down and no mistake.

A foreigner (even if he has been here a while) would have a colder view though Stevie - he'd see Everton's stability as a plus - I think you're right by the way but could see it being true anyway. A foreigner will be aware of Newcastle United over Everton though. He'd see the facilities, regardless what we think of Ashley there's money to invest in the team through the AC money and now Nolan, he'd see we've just signed someone who plays for his adopted country, he's obviously aware of who our transfer targets are, he'd be aware that our stadium is like a Rolls Royce compared to a Talbot Avenger at Goodison, he'd see a fanbase that is akin to U2 compared to Black Lace. He'd see a team that in recent memory were competing in the Champions League in March. Everton are skint, they can't compete with West Brom money wise let alone us, just a totally unattractive proposition. Or he'd see a team that has done nothing for many many years... hell even in your golden patch of the 90's we won more than you lol! He'll see a team that got relegated recently and a graveyard for many foreign footballers who came to you and were never heard of again. So yes you have a nice stadium, but you have a complete mong in charge, you think your reputation as a club is second to none, when anyone I know who supports another team (Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, Sunderland) think your club is a joke. You lurch from one pr disaster to another, one footballing disaster to another, and yet you still think everyone looks at your club through the same rose tinted black and white spectacles you do. Its just not the case. There are 2 sides to every story, you have a lovely stadium, and a very passionate and loyal support... both things should be recognised as being a big positive factor, I have not denied that at any point on this board. However you have MANY bad points to your club, and that is the reason you've won nothing in 50 years and why no-one takes you seriously as a major force in the game... your poor league finishes also back up this viewpoint. My club doesn't have the nice stadium, and has less fans coming through the turnstiles... however you are a one club city and get 55,000... Liverpool is a 2 club city and gets gates of nearly 80,000 between then clubs, so I dont see much difference there. We have excellent stability, consistent high placed finishes, and an excellent manager - all big draws for a player who isn't motivated by just money alone. We take players and develop them, we make them internationals and give them a home where they want to stay for the rest of their careers (in the main part i.e. Cahill, Tim Howard etc) Please stop harping on about being in the champions league nearly a decade or more ago... I can hardly remember it so I hardly think anyone other than you lot give a rats arse about it. Of the last 12 seasons, you have finished above us 6 times and we have finished above you 6 times yet you have the temerity to write that no one takes us seriosuly because of our because of our poor league finishes and you are a big draw because of your consistent high finishes. Do you realise how much of a wanker that makes you sound? In the last 6 seasons we've finshed above you... how many footballers are gonna give a fuck where you finished 12-6 years ago? So yes finishing 6th, 5th,5th, 8th, 7th will be a draw for a player over a team who have finished 12th, 12th, 18th (relegated), N/A, 12th If you think its not then I can't help you i'm afraid. Its not just your poor finishes in recent times, its the way your club conducts its business. I'm responding to the fact you said people see your club as being a shiny beacon of awesomeness, when in fact anyone I know who supports someone else thinks the complete opposite. WE DON'T FUCKIN CARE YOU FUCKIN NAKA!!!! I say this all the time but I'll say it again as Cantona once said "eet eez bettur to be talked about than not talked about even eef eet ees bad because eet show that you exeeest", and he's right, it shows we're important enough to be slagged off and talked about. No one talks about Everton because you're a dull non-event of a club. It's like Piers Morgan he's a fuckin arsehole, people talk about him because he is, more people talk about him than Bill Bradshaw, cos he quietly gets on with his job and doesn't have the profile of Piers despite holding similar ranking roles.

Choke, cough, splutter, gargle.....

A foreigner (even if he has been here a while) would have a colder view though Stevie - he'd see Everton's stability as a plus - I think you're right by the way but could see it being true anyway. A foreigner will be aware of Newcastle United over Everton though. He'd see the facilities, regardless what we think of Ashley there's money to invest in the team through the AC money and now Nolan, he'd see we've just signed someone who plays for his adopted country, he's obviously aware of who our transfer targets are, he'd be aware that our stadium is like a Rolls Royce compared to a Talbot Avenger at Goodison, he'd see a fanbase that is akin to U2 compared to Black Lace. He'd see a team that in recent memory were competing in the Champions League in March. Everton are skint, they can't compete with West Brom money wise let alone us, just a totally unattractive proposition. Or he'd see a team that has done nothing for many many years... hell even in your golden patch of the 90's we won more than you lol! He'll see a team that got relegated recently and a graveyard for many foreign footballers who came to you and were never heard of again. So yes you have a nice stadium, but you have a complete mong in charge, you think your reputation as a club is second to none, when anyone I know who supports another team (Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, Sunderland) think your club is a joke. You lurch from one pr disaster to another, one footballing disaster to another, and yet you still think everyone looks at your club through the same rose tinted black and white spectacles you do. Its just not the case. There are 2 sides to every story, you have a lovely stadium, and a very passionate and loyal support... both things should be recognised as being a big positive factor, I have not denied that at any point on this board. However you have MANY bad points to your club, and that is the reason you've won nothing in 50 years and why no-one takes you seriously as a major force in the game... your poor league finishes also back up this viewpoint. My club doesn't have the nice stadium, and has less fans coming through the turnstiles... however you are a one club city and get 55,000... Liverpool is a 2 club city and gets gates of nearly 80,000 between then clubs, so I dont see much difference there. We have excellent stability, consistent high placed finishes, and an excellent manager - all big draws for a player who isn't motivated by just money alone. We take players and develop them, we make them internationals and give them a home where they want to stay for the rest of their careers (in the main part i.e. Cahill, Tim Howard etc) Please stop harping on about being in the champions league nearly a decade or more ago... I can hardly remember it so I hardly think anyone other than you lot give a rats arse about it. The day we care what mackems and Everton think is the day we chuck it? Why would we care? Explain why we would care. It shows we exist that you have an opinion, our only opinion of Everton is that it's a very boring club who no one really cares about and that's it. As for Sunderland they live to hate us. We've won nothing for 42 years not 50 years. No one views us as a major force, aye and they were all piling on Everton to win the Champions League in 2005 eh? Look in the mirror before you say something like that. Why do you use the argument of one club city? I don't see what relevance it has, all you do is highlight the reasons we have a far larger fanbase. This argument about the stadium makes me chuckle too. What relevance does it have? Again you're scoring own goals highlighting our better infrastructure. Everton never fill a 40,000 ground, you'd look like Wigan if you had our stadium. You have no money. Kenwright is skint. It costs £28 to watch your biggest game of the season, you do not have the fanbase or finance to compete. THAT is modern football, and in the past your Ipswich's, your Forest's, your Villa's and Everton's could do something because it was less about the size of your club and more about how well it was organised. The fact is the way things are going, no one will ever compete with Man Utd and Chelsea without a rich benefactor, all I'm doing is giving you reasons why we are a more attractive club for a player than you are, and your counter arguments are pish, especially when you're saying we've won fuck all, and you've won one trophy in 25 year, two bald cunts arguing over a comb that mate. Besides in the last 15 years at least we've put title bids together, correct me if am wrong but I'd be amazed if you've had a Premiership season where you've been within 25 points of the champions.

Said on Twitter 7 days ago we'd get Arsenal home first game of the season #psychicstevie

A foreigner (even if he has been here a while) would have a colder view though Stevie - he'd see Everton's stability as a plus - I think you're right by the way but could see it being true anyway. A foreigner will be aware of Newcastle United over Everton though. He'd see the facilities, regardless what we think of Ashley there's money to invest in the team through the AC money and now Nolan, he'd see we've just signed someone who plays for his adopted country, he's obviously aware of who our transfer targets are, he'd be aware that our stadium is like a Rolls Royce compared to a Talbot Avenger at Goodison, he'd see a fanbase that is akin to U2 compared to Black Lace. He'd see a team that in recent memory were competing in the Champions League in March. Everton are skint, they can't compete with West Brom money wise let alone us, just a totally unattractive proposition.

70k is bullshit mate. If he's chosen NUFC over EFC on wages alone it's because you're lowballing. We just don't pay wages like this anymore, it's why we're pushing out the biggest wage earners. It's well documented that we're being tight on wages and transfer fees. Much like yourselves in fact. Could be right mind, they could be aggregating fee and wages so £70/week is only (only !!!) £13Mill over 3 years, just like paying £5Mill for someone and paying them £35K a week (ish) over 3 years (for example). Exactly, I was just about to post the exact same thing... would Ashley rather spend £10m on a striker and pay him £40k a week, or spend nothing and £70k a week. I've been chatting to the Everton lads and the info actually came from 2 people: LCAB who says its £70k a week - he broke the news we were signing Vellios & Eric Dyer a couple of weeks before either were even linked amongst other things. Sheedy who says Ba came back and asked us to match the bid and would join if we did - He broke James Vaughan falling out with Moyes and would be sold in the summer about 4 months ago (nothing had been said until he was sold the other week by anyone else), and Carlo Nash leaving for stoke 2 weeks before anything linked in the press (plus the others I mentioned i.e. Shearer to Cardiff etc). Both excellent sources. Funny thing is that if one of you claimed a very reliable toon ITK said "x or y" then you'd all believe him, but because its an Everton ITK and its not what you want to hear then you jump all over it and say i'm full of shit. Am just passing on the info from a reliable source, take it how you lot want, I have no reason to lie, and equally I have no need to spend my time trying to convince you that the info I have is from a solid source if you fail to even acknowledge there's a possiblity that someone other than a geordie might actually have some info on something related to your club. edit - toonpack thats not aimed at you seeing as you actually talked some sense in your post It's that bit that is beyond believable though in my view. It's the same as every time we get a player Everton are interested in, "he's went for the money". I'd rather sign for someone like Fulham or Sunderland if I was a player personally.

Am hungover today so even slower than normal, but you're talking like Eric Cantona in Croydon Crown Court today Chez.

Hosting the Champions League Final again in 2013, under the guise of it's the FA's 150th birthday, fuck all to do with the fact it generated £10m more than any European final in history then.

Nicely put. Cheers.

Now that it's official I feel canny sad he's gone. I'd go as far to say he's the best natural finisher we've seen since Shearer retired, he'd be a decent target man in his own right in my view, and I'd give his contribution at the toon 8 out of 10. Sad day to be honest, good servant, and when you look at his 17 goals and leadership qualities, he's going to be a big miss. Steve Brenner asked me to write a few paragraphs yesterday for the sun donno if he put it in, but these are my thoughts on his two years... Kevin Nolan has been an inspirational figure at Newcastle United. Much like Chris Hughton he went in to the Championship season with many question marks over his ability and position at the club. Although Nicky Butt was club, captain it became obvious early doors as to who the true figure of inspiration was at the club. His 17 goals from midfield that season don't even begin to cover what he did for the club that season. He more than anyone galvanised the players, and gave the club something it hadn't had for a decade team spirit! When he was formally given the captaincy at the start of last season, he played a leading role on the pitch, and was a passionate opinionated voice off it. Mike Ashley doesn't want that type of figure at the club, and that is why this whole decision has been removed from Alan Pardew's hands. It is a disgrace how a guy who is more central to NUFC's rise over the last two years than anyone, can be dismissed as easily as this, when he dies he will long be remembered in Newcastle folklore for his hattrick against Sunderland, but more than anything, certainly in terms of our recent history, it was refreshing thing to have someone on the pitch who was a "good lad", who goes home to Liverpool to run his Sunday league team on a weekend, who goes for a pint with his fatha. A real sad day for NUFC, in no way surprising, but the gap his departure will leave, creates far, far more than just a gap to fill in midfield.

Worst people in the country mate, always have been always will be, quiet as mice heads down outside the ground too. You know whats funny as fuck? and not just Liverpool either. When you come outside in to concourse next to the away fans exit, there is a police barrier. Often the away fans are being aggressive, chanting to us, beckoning us over etc and the police line keeps you apart. 30yards later both sets of fans mingle as you walk down to the road and their coaches. Not a peep True that Man Utd being the exception but even they've stopped being bell ends.

No not really... if it were Spurs or Man City than maybe, but the only thing you have to offer over us is a bigger shiny stadium and silly wages. The rest is pretty much the same apart from you conistently finishing well below us year in, year out. You really are fucking clueless. Wages. See once you've spoken to one Everton fan you've spoken to them all.

Depends on how you look at it really... Toon: Won the top division 4 times, the last being in 1927 Won the FA Cup 6 times, the last being in 1955 Won the Uefa Fairs Cup in 1969 Total major trophies - 11 Everton: Won the top division 9 times, the last being 1987 but the titles stretch back through most decades Won the FA Cup 5 times, the last being in 1995 Won the Cup Winners Cup in 1985 Total major trophies - 15 So yes we've only won 4 more, but come on the last time you won the league was in 1927 when all the teams were in black and white lol! Your success post war is pathetic!!! At least we've acheived something in the (relative) modern era... most people dont even know the Toon have won anything ever! So hows that a high status? Newcastle are the biggest under achievers in Europe? HAHA as if thats a tag to be proud of? am sure there are other teams who deserve that tag more anyway... just because you have a good stadium and are a single city team means fuck all! But as always the Toon faithful think they are bigger than they are! At least I can happily say my club is in need of an overhaul, and that we can't win the league even in our wildest dreams... some of you lot think you're fuckin Barcelona It was great when you got relegated because suddenly you realised that you were just another club, who didnt deserve anything just because you have a shiny stadium... shame as soon as you got promoted you reverted back to type, although it was rather satisfying to watch you limp over the last month or so of the season, after people on here were telling me you's would finsih above us, oh well there's always next season eh? I dont have anything against Newcastle United, in fact i've always wanted them to do well, but its the arrogance of some supporters that annoys me beyond belief. You are not a "big" club, you are no more bigger than Everton, Spurs, Villa and many other clubs... lets just wait to see where the Toon finish over the next couple of seasons before we go making any bold statements about anyone being a Mickey Mouse club eh? With your lot in charge and the way your club lurches from one fuck up to the other I dont know how you can even dare utter that phrase lol! I could give you a relatively articulate response to this but I can't be arsed. Should've left this forum in March to be honest. Sort your quoting skills out mate anyway.

Maybe mickey mouse is harsh, truth is I just don't like them. Anyway Ba is at the training ground right now he's got some dig on him this kid like, really pleased with it, we're getting a £10m striker for nothing.

They're all the same. Is he interesting though? Does it complete your month having those 10 minutes with him?

Looks like you offered him 70k a week, he came back to us and said if we matched it he'd sign for us, we told him to do one, and he's now signed / signing for you. But yeah what you said is the same eh? What an absolute doilum. Incredible really. Honest question why would you sign for Everton over Newcastle, like try and be impartial. Players love to be noticed and Everton just aren't, Newcastle's infrastructure is far far farrrrrrrr better, than fanbase is incomparable, and Everton are absolutely fucking skint. Why would you sign for Everton over Newcastle, it's beyond delusional or any rational comprehension. Yawn! This whole "my dad's bigger than your dad" argument that always gets banded about when someone is in enemy territory (its the same if one of your lot came over to our site tho in all fairness). Newcastle finished in what position last season? It was below Everton thats for sure, and as for the season before that, and the one before that... what about the one before that, and the one before that, and then just keep following that pattern for about 12 years or so. Why would anyone choose Everton over Newcastle? Could ask Baines I suppose, didnt he sign for us over you? Mind you players have signed for you's over us admittedly, I wonder what Emre's doing these days? So how much do you think you's are paying Ba then? £10k a week? £30k? £50k? I'm sure someone on here will be ITK, until then we can go with my ITK who has got MANY things right before. Just passing on info at the end of the day. Agree with it or not, its up to you, but where are you getting your info from? Your head? At least i have a source, regardless of whether you wish to believe it or not. Meh like I said its the enemy on your territory syndrome, but i'll indulge you seeing as I know you'll be disappointed if I dont, so feel free to flex your muscles and show me just how great your club is with all its trophies and high placed premier league finishes, your excellent players (oh oops sorry forget you were flogging them both lol!), your wonderful manager, and un realistic expectations (how you's haven't learnt by now i'll never know!)... at least you have a nice stadium tho eh? <awaits abuse> I doubt Emre had even heard of Everton to be honest. When Emre signed, we were in Europe Everton weren't we'd been a club who played in european semi's, quarters, Champions League's recent Cup Finals. He would've saw a world class stadium with 52,000 people every week, European football, one of THE richest and biggest financially speaking clubs in Europe, and you expect him to choose a relic of a club in a dilapidated old 40,000 stadium which is full twice a season, with a minimal transfer budget over us?¬?!?!? They are just stating facts. As for our league finishes you live in Ryton so I'm sure you're fully aware of our recent past. You mention all it's trophies being sarcastic, the major thing about Everton is people say mickey mouse club, but a very historic successful one all the same. Yet Newcastle have a nearly bare trophy cabinet and are the biggest underachievers in Europe. Tell me Andy, how many more trophies do you have than us? FOUR. Fucking Four. Barcelona won four this year. FOUR trophies and that is the only single thing you have over us and it's minimal.

Gazza-esque in its daftness Do carry on.

The things people believe to make themselves feel better. To be fair they're all consoling themselves on their website that we've offered him 70k a week so it's not just Andy who is deluded, they can't comprehend why anyone would choose us over them on a level playing field. It's more delusional than Hitler Youth, but they all believe it, Everton historically are footballs biggest over achievers, in modern times I can't see what is more attractive about them than say Fulham or Sunderland, although those two clubs actually have money to spend whereas Everton don't. They'll end up with Bothroyd which is his and their level in my view.