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gamecast i've got on just reported Beckham is crying as he comes on as a sub..... 64'Beckham finally comes on and he appears to be crying. Abate went off. 65'Beckham's first action is to pass to Fletcher, presumably as his eyes are a little too teary. Losing 3-0 will do that to you i guess.

...he's not in either of those, you're president of his fan club obviously.... RIP

All the rocket tech and nukes they got from Germans. The first road cars were also invented by Germans, Benz if I iirc..I thought Konrad Zuse (yes Renton not an american name ) the GERMAN invented the first computer in 1936... Soooo, I'll give you consumer goods. Is there really any point of the likes of you and tooner posting in this thread, it is beyond doubt you are both ridiculously knowledgeless... Peace. .....because I don't have the seething hatred of americans that you do, I am clueless?......ok, whatever. "Seething hatred".. In the defence of America I will say that the PEOPLE often in times of trouble and need show a very big heart and genorosity." [Parky/] I merely present facts dear. Deal wiv it. Whatever. Let's put the wars aside a minute the criminal, fraudulent and destructive american banking system is single handedly fucking up the financial viability of 3/4 of the planet. It is the worlds biggest polluter bar none, it is the first worlds most undereducated country by a mile....IT IS A FUCKING BASKET CASE. I can only think some people in this thread are watching Top Gun round the clock. .....well maybe not seething but but you've got some issues with america. as I stated before i don't condone or side with american foreign policy or military actions, my point was only that the outcome of the second world war was due to the co-operation of ALL the allied countries and any attempt at detracting from or qualifying the contribution from any allied country does a dis-service and dishonor to the 100,000's of people from those countries who gave there lives. .....so whatEVAR. I can't remember are you Canadian? you cheeky fucking prick...... I am.......and I will apologize for any undue amount of flag waving i've done recently, been caught up in the hoo-haw of canadian pride left-over from the olympics. Sidney Crosby broke my heart on 28 Feb 10. Helluva game though. Probably the best hockey game I've ever seen in my life (barring of course, the Miracle). Congrats on the gold- you deserved it (well, maybe not Broduer... ! That was a good game of ice hockey?....first time I've tried to watch it on tv and I thought it was barely watchable...for me its basically too fast for a decent televised sport. Is this a common thing the uninitiated say or is it just a fuckin crap spectator sport anyway? ps I like Americans in general, when you go there they are much nicer and better people than the impression you get through the media/tv or those loud fuckers on bus tours with tartan trousers and 15 cameras round their necks hahahaha...yeah its hard to watch for the uninitiated, always been the problem with the shit TV ratings it gets in the states. They tried to put a "comet tail" on the puck to make it more TV friendly and easier to see for hockey noobies, but the NHL board of directors quashed that as it made it look like a piece of shit. Agreed about americans the vast majority i have met, in my travels and during a short stint living in Vermont, have been amazing people with interesting points of view. CID...helluva game eh? I thought it was going to go in favour of you guys when it got tied up........ala Junior Championships, my old man thought the same told he went and turned on the BBQ when they scored, figured it was all over.

All the rocket tech and nukes they got from Germans. The first road cars were also invented by Germans, Benz if I iirc..I thought Konrad Zuse (yes Renton not an american name ) the GERMAN invented the first computer in 1936... Soooo, I'll give you consumer goods. Is there really any point of the likes of you and tooner posting in this thread, it is beyond doubt you are both ridiculously knowledgeless... Peace. .....because I don't have the seething hatred of americans that you do, I am clueless?......ok, whatever. "Seething hatred".. In the defence of America I will say that the PEOPLE often in times of trouble and need show a very big heart and genorosity." [Parky/] I merely present facts dear. Deal wiv it. Whatever. Let's put the wars aside a minute the criminal, fraudulent and destructive american banking system is single handedly fucking up the financial viability of 3/4 of the planet. It is the worlds biggest polluter bar none, it is the first worlds most undereducated country by a mile....IT IS A FUCKING BASKET CASE. I can only think some people in this thread are watching Top Gun round the clock. .....well maybe not seething but but you've got some issues with america. as I stated before i don't condone or side with american foreign policy or military actions, my point was only that the outcome of the second world war was due to the co-operation of ALL the allied countries and any attempt at detracting from or qualifying the contribution from any allied country does a dis-service and dishonor to the 100,000's of people from those countries who gave there lives. .....so whatEVAR. I can't remember are you Canadian? you cheeky fucking prick...... I am.......and I will apologize for any undue amount of flag waving i've done recently, been caught up in the hoo-haw of canadian pride left-over from the olympics.

All the rocket tech and nukes they got from Germans. The first road cars were also invented by Germans, Benz if I iirc..I thought Konrad Zuse (yes Renton not an american name ) the GERMAN invented the first computer in 1936... Soooo, I'll give you consumer goods. Is there really any point of the likes of you and tooner posting in this thread, it is beyond doubt you are both ridiculously knowledgeless... Peace. .....because I don't have the seething hatred of americans that you do, I am clueless?......ok, whatever. "Seething hatred".. In the defence of America I will say that the PEOPLE often in times of trouble and need show a very big heart and genorosity." [Parky/] I merely present facts dear. Deal wiv it. Whatever. Let's put the wars aside a minute the criminal, fraudulent and destructive american banking system is single handedly fucking up the financial viability of 3/4 of the planet. It is the worlds biggest polluter bar none, it is the first worlds most undereducated country by a mile....IT IS A FUCKING BASKET CASE. I can only think some people in this thread are watching Top Gun round the clock. .....well maybe not seething but but you've got some issues with america. as I stated before i don't condone or side with american foreign policy or military actions, my point was only that the outcome of the second world war was due to the co-operation of ALL the allied countries and any attempt at detracting from or qualifying the contribution from any allied country does a dis-service and dishonor to the 100,000's of people from those countries who gave there lives. .....so whatEVAR.

All the rocket tech and nukes they got from Germans. The first road cars were also invented by Germans, Benz if I iirc..I thought Konrad Zuse (yes Renton not an american name ) the GERMAN invented the first computer in 1936... Soooo, I'll give you consumer goods. Is there really any point of the likes of you and tooner posting in this thread, it is beyond doubt you are both ridiculously knowledgeless... Peace. .....because I don't have the seething hatred of americans that you do, I am clueless?......ok, whatever.

Let's put the wars aside a minute the criminal, fraudulent and destructive american banking system is single handedly fucking up the financial viability of 3/4 of the planet. It is the worlds biggest polluter bar none, it is the first worlds most undereducated country by a mile....IT IS A FUCKING BASKET CASE. I can only think some people in this thread are watching Top Gun round the clock. yeah, ok...but we're talking about the US of the 1940's, not right now. I just think it's humourous that S/B cannot fathom that the US was integral to the ending of WW2. what ever their part in it, however large or small, it WAS integral to the allies winning. without any one of the allies the war would have turned out very differently...period.

"sword of damacles" starting to fall over? or just leaning a bit? insurance companies are bastards, assume they won't.

the Tizard mission was an attempt to get the ball rolling on preparing for war (which Britain had no capacity for in terms of resources) and if the UK had only waited a couple of months til the US congress changed its tune and allowed the sale of arms to belligerent states, maybe ol' Tiz wouldn't have sold the farm. Turns out Winston was right in feeling uneasy with the arrangement.no use in complaining about it now though stevie, hindsight is 20/20 and all that. as far as canadians not classing themselves as yanks, that's pretty rich coming from someone who has as much domestic regional xenophobia as yourself.......you welshman.....

Mate do you understand what we gave them? We basically gave them the basis of what we know as modern technology, for nothing. in what regard? please be a little more succinct and less broad. Are you thick? Do you actually know anything about the history of the war? This is a classic example of the sheer ignorance of them. ooops sorry for the confusion there Stevie/Barrack......succinct means "clear, precise expression in few words"....sorry ok go on then explain.

I'm fairly sure that the surrender at Singapore went down as a massive disgrace/shame on the British army. and we defeated a Jap army at Imphal-Kohima, ejected them from Burma and were all set to re invade Malaya not too shabby when you think we also fought the Jormans from 1939 -we never had the benefit of two years sitting on the sidelines like our allies................... ........and 8000 miles away from home. America's contribution . two years of sitting on the sidelines and providing weapons and supplies to the allies surely.

Mate do you understand what we gave them? We basically gave them the basis of what we know as modern technology, for nothing. in what regard? please be a little more succinct and less broad.

ok, let me preface this with hearty "i'm not sympathetic to the american war machine" however south Korea wouldn't exist if the Americans had been pasted in Korea if anything it was a draw, as for Vietnam they lost but it was a lot like last year for us, the team they/we had in Vietnam/the PL was good enough to win, but the dumb fekkers in charge had no fucking clue so they/we lost/were relegated. When Chinese tank divisions started lining up on the Korean border Uncle Sam hi tailed it outta there quick time styleee. FACT. Btw I'd have gone all the way in Korea and S Korea would never have existed...Americans were lucky they caught a deal imo. Let's see what happens with Taiwan...ho ho.. If China invaded it tomorrow america would do nothing. They're bottling mugs. Cowardly nation. Always have been always will be. They're our naughty child which turned in to a monster hated by everybody. you're on the wind-up...... No I think you are. NO I think YOU are.....

What loans are these? http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodg...loan-2009-3..... how does 12 zeros grab ya? They're treasuries, highly unlikely that China can call them in at will. Beijing is leading the move away from U.S. debt instruments as President Barack Obama increases government borrowing to unprecedented levels to sustain economic recovery. In December, Obama increased the size of the marketable U.S. Treasury stock to a stunning record level $7.27 trillion. If the trend continues, the United States will be forced to raise interest rates. That would put yet another strain on America’s ability to manage its mountain of debt. Speculation about China’s intent has been running wild since the figures were released. Relations between Beijing and Washington are worsening almost daily. The deepening spat over Tibet, a controversy over U.S. arms sales to Taiwan, China's dispute with Google (GOOG) and trade and currency disagreements are still festering. In the latest dispute, President Barack Obama's administration rejected Beijing's demand to cancel his meeting this week with the Dalai Lama. Some analysts warn that China might be cutting purchases of U.S. Treasuries to flex its financial muscle. If so, Beijing’s economic leverage has its limits. America’s economic house is terribly fragile. Putting too much pressure on the U.S. economy could destroy America’s recovery or wreak even worse damage. source....... http://seekingalpha.com/article/189534-ame...sing-confidence sometimes the best offence is good old kick in nuts/bank book.

True but the yanks are a very, very distant third in all of that. So far distant that you'd need a train to reach where they are. Russia and Britain won the war. Agreed us and the Russians took the brunt of it, while American war profiteering was rampant. The American people didn't even want to come into the war which says all you need to know about their commitment. Some Americans didn't. Have you two forgot the Americans had to deal with the Japanese ffs? They weren't a distant third by any margin, and we are endebted to them as much as the French are to us. You are a nob. That's all I need to say. Cheers. That reminds me, did you ever find any evidence that the Japanese could have taken the entire Western seaboard and mid-West of America if they had wanted to? Also if this is true, then the Americans did quite well in their war against them, didn't they? I'm sure you can find a link to the Russian Doomsday weapon while you're at it. You've got less evidence to back up your ridiculous opinions than Parky has man. And when you can't, its the usual childish insult routine with you. We owe the Americans as much as the French owe us?????? You are a disgrace, a clueless pseudo-intellectual. I'll reply properly later. Your letting your irrational dislike of virtually all other nationalities get the better of you as usual. What do you think would have happened to the UK had the American's stayed truly neutral - i.e. not supplied us and the Russians with arms etc (albeit at a price). We'd have been fucked. Then they lost thousands in Normandy and beyond fighting a war that wasn't even directly involving their continent - and helped liberate France amonst others. Do you not think they deserve a bit more respect for that? Because I do. As for this pseudointellectual jibe - what complete bollocks. I'm no historian but I know enough to know when you talk shite like this. You got the last bit right I'll give you that. We gave them all of the tools to win the war in the fuckin first place, for free, absolutely fuck all it cost them. You can't definitively say we wouldn't have won the war on our side without their rag tag army coming over anyway. Who's to say we wouldn't have mobilised people from other parts of the empire. America had the industrial might to arm us, and we were still fucking paying for it 50 years later. They are a disgrace of a nation, had we joined forces with Hitler we'd have taken America without doubt in my mind. We and our stance in world war two was utterly and convincingly pivotal in to which way the world went, and you your bollocks can say what you like, read balanced books on world war 2 and you'll see. I've always been interested in the second world war. Your viewpoint is utterly contrary to everything I've seen or read on it though, and there's a prevailing element of xenophobia in it. Tell you what though, direct me to some 'balanced' books and I'll take a look. Btw, none of this takes away anything that the British did which was simply amazing. We had to pay a heavy price though - the loss of our empire, and the Americans naturally loved this. But in a way they were right, the age of empires had ended - we just have found it hard to accept it - some more than others. As yours is to mine. 30m I've read yank troop numbers who joined the western front as numbering between 1.5m and 3m. Sizeable but no more than us. It doesn't take 28.5m to make a nuke as well. The American Army have suffered more defeats and embarrassments on their own than Sunderland AFC in 05/06. i knew you'd contest that....... .......let me see if i can dig it up. World War II (1941-1945) Total Servicemembers (Worldwide).............16,112,566 Battle Deaths................................................291,557 Other Deaths in Service (Non-Theater).............113,842 Non-mortal Woundings..................................671,846 Living Veterans (note 5)................................2,498,000 source.... http://www.veteranshour.com/facts_of_the_matter.htm Ok, so I was a bit high, maybe they meant after the war as well to garrison all the places they now had bases....anyway Stevie...errr...Barrack, you never answered my question...who else from the Commonwealth could have responded to a call to arms? All manner of cunts. You're like Uncle Sam T Brockheimslapper. Those figures Would be interesting knowing their distribution, only a fraction of them were involved in the war proper. IE where it was going on. No ones interested in the Pacific. are you not interested in the Pacific b/c the brits had their asses kicked by the Japs in the Pacific?

True but the yanks are a very, very distant third in all of that. So far distant that you'd need a train to reach where they are. Russia and Britain won the war. Agreed us and the Russians took the brunt of it, while American war profiteering was rampant. The American people didn't even want to come into the war which says all you need to know about their commitment. Some Americans didn't. Have you two forgot the Americans had to deal with the Japanese ffs? They weren't a distant third by any margin, and we are endebted to them as much as the French are to us. You are a nob. That's all I need to say. Cheers. That reminds me, did you ever find any evidence that the Japanese could have taken the entire Western seaboard and mid-West of America if they had wanted to? Also if this is true, then the Americans did quite well in their war against them, didn't they? I'm sure you can find a link to the Russian Doomsday weapon while you're at it. You've got less evidence to back up your ridiculous opinions than Parky has man. And when you can't, its the usual childish insult routine with you. We owe the Americans as much as the French owe us?????? You are a disgrace, a clueless pseudo-intellectual. I'll reply properly later. Your letting your irrational dislike of virtually all other nationalities get the better of you as usual. What do you think would have happened to the UK had the American's stayed truly neutral - i.e. not supplied us and the Russians with arms etc (albeit at a price). We'd have been fucked. Then they lost thousands in Normandy and beyond fighting a war that wasn't even directly involving their continent - and helped liberate France amonst others. Do you not think they deserve a bit more respect for that? Because I do. As for this pseudointellectual jibe - what complete bollocks. I'm no historian but I know enough to know when you talk shite like this. You got the last bit right I'll give you that. We gave them all of the tools to win the war in the fuckin first place, for free, absolutely fuck all it cost them. You can't definitively say we wouldn't have won the war on our side without their rag tag army coming over anyway. Who's to say we wouldn't have mobilised people from other parts of the empire. America had the industrial might to arm us, and we were still fucking paying for it 50 years later. They are a disgrace of a nation, had we joined forces with Hitler we'd have taken America without doubt in my mind. We and our stance in world war two was utterly and convincingly pivotal in to which way the world went, and you your bollocks can say what you like, read balanced books on world war 2 and you'll see. I've always been interested in the second world war. Your viewpoint is utterly contrary to everything I've seen or read on it though, and there's a prevailing element of xenophobia in it. Tell you what though, direct me to some 'balanced' books and I'll take a look. Btw, none of this takes away anything that the British did which was simply amazing. We had to pay a heavy price though - the loss of our empire, and the Americans naturally loved this. But in a way they were right, the age of empires had ended - we just have found it hard to accept it - some more than others. As yours is to mine. 30m I've read yank troop numbers who joined the western front as numbering between 1.5m and 3m. Sizeable but no more than us. It doesn't take 28.5m to make a nuke as well. The American Army have suffered more defeats and embarrassments on their own than Sunderland AFC in 05/06. i knew you'd contest that....... .......let me see if i can dig it up. World War II (1941-1945) Total Servicemembers (Worldwide).............16,112,566 Battle Deaths................................................291,557 Other Deaths in Service (Non-Theater).............113,842 Non-mortal Woundings..................................671,846 Living Veterans (note 5)................................2,498,000 source.... http://www.veteranshour.com/facts_of_the_matter.htm Ok, so I was a bit high, maybe they meant after the war as well to garrison all the places they now had bases....anyway Stevie...errr...Barrack, you never answered my question...who else from the Commonwealth could have responded to a call to arms? All manner of cunts. You're like Uncle Sam T Brockheimslapper. Those figures Would be interesting knowing their distribution, only a fraction of them were involved in the war proper. IE where it was going on. No ones interested in the Pacific. for instance?

ok, let me preface this with hearty "i'm not sympathetic to the american war machine" however south Korea wouldn't exist if the Americans had been pasted in Korea if anything it was a draw, as for Vietnam they lost but it was a lot like last year for us, the team they/we had in Vietnam/the PL was good enough to win, but the dumb fekkers in charge had no fucking clue so they/we lost/were relegated. When Chinese tank divisions started lining up on the Korean border Uncle Sam hi tailed it outta there quick time styleee. FACT. Btw I'd have gone all the way in Korea and S Korea would never have existed...Americans were lucky they caught a deal imo. Let's see what happens with Taiwan...ho ho.. If China invaded it tomorrow america would do nothing. They're bottling mugs. Cowardly nation. Always have been always will be. They're our naughty child which turned in to a monster hated by everybody. you're on the wind-up......

Course it is. There's no arguing with people who are willfully ignorant. Pointless to even try. ...CID....all due respect, I hope you don't count me in that number for anti-amercan drivel, I was just trying to point out to Stevie/Barrack that contrary to his belief, you guys DID swing the balance in WW2

What loans are these? http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodg...loan-2009-3..... how does 12 zeros grab ya?

ok, let me preface this with hearty "i'm not sympathetic to the american war machine" however south Korea wouldn't exist if the Americans had been pasted in Korea if anything it was a draw, as for Vietnam they lost but it was a lot like last year for us, the team they/we had in Vietnam/the PL was good enough to win, but the dumb fekkers in charge had no fucking clue so they/we lost/were relegated. When Chinese tank divisions started lining up on the Korean border Uncle Sam hi tailed it outta there quick time styleee. FACT. Btw I'd have gone all the way in Korea and S Korea would never have existed...Americans were lucky they caught a deal imo. Let's see what happens with Taiwan...ho ho.. If China invaded it tomorrow america would do nothing. Thing is Korea was a UN operation....agreed the UN caught a break in korea for sure...... as for Taiwan america will do nothing because if they did the chinese would call in their loans and really fuck with the US economy...... and CID how could the US make an effort to stop china right now? too many brands in the fire...no?

ok, let me preface this with hearty "i'm not sympathetic to the american war machine" however south Korea wouldn't exist if the Americans had been pasted in Korea if anything it was a draw, as for Vietnam they lost but it was a lot like last year for us, the team they/we had in Vietnam/the PL was good enough to win, but the dumb fekkers in charge had no fucking clue so they/we lost/were relegated.

pardon my ignorance, but what the heck is an allotment? you need permission to grow veg? An allotment is an "allotment" of land alloted to the working man. The land is usually owned by the local council or the church. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotment_(gardening) gotcha! cheers, a public garden. Do you not have similar things wherever your from? in cities yes, but I live in a ridiculously large country there is lots of room to have a garden if you want, no need to ask. this type of thing is gaining momentum in most of the urban centers across canada though, people are taking derelict/empty lots across cities and putting in community gardens where you can trade with other "farmers", but again not where I live (southern interior BC)

True but the yanks are a very, very distant third in all of that. So far distant that you'd need a train to reach where they are. Russia and Britain won the war. Agreed us and the Russians took the brunt of it, while American war profiteering was rampant. The American people didn't even want to come into the war which says all you need to know about their commitment. Some Americans didn't. Have you two forgot the Americans had to deal with the Japanese ffs? They weren't a distant third by any margin, and we are endebted to them as much as the French are to us. You are a nob. That's all I need to say. Cheers. That reminds me, did you ever find any evidence that the Japanese could have taken the entire Western seaboard and mid-West of America if they had wanted to? Also if this is true, then the Americans did quite well in their war against them, didn't they? I'm sure you can find a link to the Russian Doomsday weapon while you're at it. You've got less evidence to back up your ridiculous opinions than Parky has man. And when you can't, its the usual childish insult routine with you. We owe the Americans as much as the French owe us?????? You are a disgrace, a clueless pseudo-intellectual. I'll reply properly later. Your letting your irrational dislike of virtually all other nationalities get the better of you as usual. What do you think would have happened to the UK had the American's stayed truly neutral - i.e. not supplied us and the Russians with arms etc (albeit at a price). We'd have been fucked. Then they lost thousands in Normandy and beyond fighting a war that wasn't even directly involving their continent - and helped liberate France amonst others. Do you not think they deserve a bit more respect for that? Because I do. As for this pseudointellectual jibe - what complete bollocks. I'm no historian but I know enough to know when you talk shite like this. You got the last bit right I'll give you that. We gave them all of the tools to win the war in the fuckin first place, for free, absolutely fuck all it cost them. You can't definitively say we wouldn't have won the war on our side without their rag tag army coming over anyway. Who's to say we wouldn't have mobilised people from other parts of the empire. America had the industrial might to arm us, and we were still fucking paying for it 50 years later. They are a disgrace of a nation, had we joined forces with Hitler we'd have taken America without doubt in my mind. We and our stance in world war two was utterly and convincingly pivotal in to which way the world went, and you your bollocks can say what you like, read balanced books on world war 2 and you'll see. I've always been interested in the second world war. Your viewpoint is utterly contrary to everything I've seen or read on it though, and there's a prevailing element of xenophobia in it. Tell you what though, direct me to some 'balanced' books and I'll take a look. Btw, none of this takes away anything that the British did which was simply amazing. We had to pay a heavy price though - the loss of our empire, and the Americans naturally loved this. But in a way they were right, the age of empires had ended - we just have found it hard to accept it - some more than others. As yours is to mine. 30m I've read yank troop numbers who joined the western front as numbering between 1.5m and 3m. Sizeable but no more than us. It doesn't take 28.5m to make a nuke as well. The American Army have suffered more defeats and embarrassments on their own than Sunderland AFC in 05/06. i knew you'd contest that....... .......let me see if i can dig it up. Why bother, Stevie hardly ever backs up anything he posts. exactly......I'm no Stevie/Barrack......i'm just some yank (even though I'm not....shhhhhh don't tell Stevie/Barrack)