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Id be careful what you right about your dad on an internet forum.

I love comments like these.... Did you see the results. He's made the city a fortune, shareholders a fortune and even his staff a very handsome profit share. The investors who bought SD shares at 300p when it was floated might disagree. Granted, but still from todays Financial Times..... Blaze of glory, fucks up, rebuilds........Hmmmmmmm

I love comments like these.... Did you see the results. He's made the city a fortune, shareholders a fortune and even his staff a very handsome profit share. What's that got to do with the awful ads they put out? And I don't think he alone has managed all that. If he has then I apologise and can only assume he's been doing similarly for NUFC and we're just misinterpreting what's going on. They're working

I love comments like these.... Did you see the results. He's made the city a fortune, shareholders a fortune and even his staff a very handsome profit share.

99.9% of this board and Newcastle Fans couldnt give a fuck about the Halls and Shepherds raping the club for all it was worth because they gave us a nice ride along the way. 99.9% of this board and Newcastle Fans realise that they then fucked the club up, were dragging it downwards and were only too happy to cash in and get out. 99.9% of this board and Newcastle Fans then got on with life. 0.1 % of this board cant get over his dismissal from another board and not being able to re-argue his case against his old foes. In 5 years time when Im proved right about Ashleys intentions and his five year plan, do you seriously think Im going to waste my twilight years trying to prove to total strangers how clever I was and how thick they were? You betcha!

As I said, best I can be bothered with. You however seem the ideal person to take this baby on and make it your own.

not for me either. Listening to it on the radio and have emailed them and told them to sort their act out. (which they are trying to do).

A good lesson for all tbf

Had a go best I can and I get In Abdoulaye Faye £2,000,000 Alan Smith £6,000,000 Ben Tozer £1,000,000 Danny Guthrie £2,500,000 Danny Simpson £750,000 David Rozenthal £2,900,000 Enrique £6,300,000 Fabricio Colochini £9,000,000 Habibe Baye £2,000,000 Joey Barton £5,800,000 Jonas Gutierrez £6,000,000 Kevin Nolan £4,500,000 Leon Best £1,000,000 Lovenkrands £0 Mike Williamson £2,000,000 Ryan Taylor £0 Sebastian Bassong £2,000,000 Tiote £3,500,000 Wayne Routledge £2,000,000 Xisco £5,700,000 Total £65 Mill Out Abdooly Faye £2,250,000 Bassong £8,000,000 Beye £2,500,000 Charles Nzogbia £6,000,000 David Edgar £300,000 David Rozenthal £2,900,000 Emre £4,000,000 James Milner £12,500,000 Kieron Dyer £6,000,000 Luque £0 Obafemi Martins £9,000,000 Scott Parker £7,000,000 Shay Given £8,000,000 Out £68.5 Mill When you add in the suggested Shepherd outstanding transfer fees taht he paid off, then it would appear he's made a loss on transfers. Also worth noting ive now officially lost the will to live.

If you can't face another royal variety performance, toon talk is on tonight between 7 and 9. Guest speakers include the suns Steve Brehmner and the times George Caulkin. Listened once last year and I am sure you can type in your questions to the guests live on air. Online address to listen is www.ne1fm.com Also lists a radio frequency but I guess that's north east only. 102.5 fm

Not sure how to copy a spreadsheet into here so just have to list them. Found this list of incomings James Perch Tiote Danny Simpson £750,000 Wayne Routledge Mike Williamson Leon Best Kevin Nolan £4,500,000 Ryan Taylor Jonas Gutierrez Danny Guthrie Sebastian Bassong Fabricio Colochini Xisco £5,700,000 Ben Tozer £1,000,000 Mark Viduka Free Joey Barton £5,800,000 David Rozenthal £2,900,000 Alan Smith £6,000,000 Enrique £6,300,000 Abdoulaye Faye And this list of outgoings Geremi David Edgar Michael Owen Free Shay Given £6,000,000 Charles Nzogbia £6,000,000 Peter Ramage Stephen Carr David Rozenthal £2,900,000 Abdooly Faye £2,250,000 James Milner £12,500,000 Scott Parker £7,000,000 Titus Bramble Free Antoine Sibierski Free Craig Moore Released Alan Obrien Kieron Dyer £6,000,000 Paul Huntingdon Nobby Solano The ones without a figure are shown as being undisclosed on the website I found so not sure how you add them in. Also I cant find a list of the transfers debts ashley paid off when he came in. It would be nice if someone knows how to knock this into a proper shape so we have a definitive list for future discussions. Also the geeks on the board will have to see if anyones missing off this list.

It's nailed...it's in the accounts...he's £18m up on transfer dealings. Think this is turning into urban myth without the facts. I just want to see two lists. One with outgoing p[layers and fee, one with incoming players and fee. Thought this would have been readily available, especially for the anti ashley brigade, but Im struggling to source it. Smells a fish away.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-u...72703-27836898/ Wonder what he means by that little snippet

Further to this mornings remarks about money spent vs money received on players under Ashleys ownership, is there anywhere to find this info to nail it once and for all.

who goes to Sports Direct to buy anything then ? Looking at todays results I would guess most of the nation do you ? I do sir, I do! So you only boycotted the football after Keegan then? Not things that would have caused you any financial loss? Heaven forbid you should fork out an extra quid for that Kappa Trackie like. £10 quid to NUSC that was a financial loss

I can't pick out the £107m spend from that article but it looks about right (looks like it should be 98.2 expenses + 6.4 interest + net cash spent on transfers) so I guess you've got that figure straight from the accounts (I've not seen the 2008 accounts myself). If that's right though, have you any idea why the net debt jumped from £67m to £107m (according to that article). Where's the money gone to account for that debt? Why did it not just rise by the overspend amount, ie £8m? Was our debt any worse than most other clubs though? The stadium debt was secure and it was only the £25m or so remaining debt which we would have had to refinance at some point. If the worst came to the worst, a couple of years of cutting back (or just maintaining expenditure rather than increasing it) and we could pay off that £25m in a couple of seasons if absolutely necessary - it would not surprise me in the slightest if Ashley is able to pay of £25m of his loan this season alone in spite of the revenue drop, although I'd never have recommended cutting back this far. With our turnover, I'd have thought relatively speaking we'd be one of the better risks in the premiership, and only those who went majorly OTT like Portsmouth got into trouble they couldn't get out of. We were NOTHING LIKE Portsmouth in how far we stretched ourselves beyond our means. As one comparative example of a club with no sugar daddy, Everton have a debt of £41m with a turnover of £80m, wages £50m (May 2009). From an outside viewpoint without looking into it in too much detail, they're managing to get through the financial crisis okay. All other things being equal we should easily be able to achieve at least £10m more turnover than Everton, so a £10m higher wage bill is sustainable. I wouldn't say Everton are particularly well run financially, but you would not say finances were "about as bad as it can get" there would you, and their loans aren't at threat of being foreclosed and forcing them into administration are they? Or should they be worried? How do you know we were at the end of our credit line? I have a mortgage on my house, but it doesn't mean I can't loan any more money. It depends on the value of the house and the amount of the current mortgage. The stadium loan is secured against gate receipts, did we have anything secured against the TV income? Even if we did the value of this has risen significantly. Note, I am not saying we should have or needed to increase the debt from what it was, just addressing the point that we were at the end of the line with nowhere left to turn if extra debt was required. I'm not saying the club was healthy when he bought it, but it was no more sick than most of the rest of the league, bar a few lucky teams. Personally I have no confidence that Ashley is looking to run this club at a level anything other than to do enough to survive in the Premiership year-on-year as he pays back his debt. Players brought in will be cheap, some will do well and some will be poor. The "success" rate will probably be quite good, as you're not expecting much from a cheap player, whereas it seems anyone over £5m has to be a world beater to justify their cost, however the overall quality of the team will diminish even further. The ones that do poorly will add to the depth of the squad, but also to it's mediocrity, the ones that do well will be out the door as soon as someone offers a pot of cash for them (the disloyal bastard has been touting himself around for ages) or if they dare to ask for a wage they could get elsewhere (the mercenary cunt - it was in the paper he wants £60k a week!). Support and interest in the club will dwindle, some of that will be fickle and would come straight back with results, but some will be lost forever and will take years of (relative) success to build back up. IMO every year Ashley owns this club it will be harder and harder for us even to get back to where we were as a club when he bought it let alone surpass that. I hope he proves me wrong, but he hasn't so far, and to do so he'd have to completely go against his nature and previous business practices. Arnt we in a better position than when he bought it already? don't be daft man. How is that ? You are joking, Shirley We were dropping like a stone, from 7th the previous year to 13th We has a manager renowned for the most depressing football on planet Earth Goals were a rare occurrence, 38 all year. We've got 27 already! Financial mis-management that was heading for administration Directors who constantly lined their own pockets from the club. We didnt have Tiote

The same task that they wrapped the american version up with in April. It was canny then. Was that a celebrity one? I thought the latest US series had only been going on the last few months. I was watching it but couldn't be arsed keeping up with it. Generally I do prefer some of the earlier US series though, Trump is class. Loved the episode where he fired 5 of them in one go. Aye it was the celebrity one. The likes of Michael Johnson, cyndi Lauper, Sharon osbourne etc. Quite suprising how quickly they start getting into each other considering their fame and fortune.

who goes to Sports Direct to buy anything then ? Looking at todays results I would guess most of the nation do you ? I do sir, I do!

who goes to Sports Direct to buy anything then ? Looking at todays results I would guess most of the nation

The same task that they wrapped the american version up with in April. It was canny then.

I can't pick out the £107m spend from that article but it looks about right (looks like it should be 98.2 expenses + 6.4 interest + net cash spent on transfers) so I guess you've got that figure straight from the accounts (I've not seen the 2008 accounts myself). If that's right though, have you any idea why the net debt jumped from £67m to £107m (according to that article). Where's the money gone to account for that debt? Why did it not just rise by the overspend amount, ie £8m? Was our debt any worse than most other clubs though? The stadium debt was secure and it was only the £25m or so remaining debt which we would have had to refinance at some point. If the worst came to the worst, a couple of years of cutting back (or just maintaining expenditure rather than increasing it) and we could pay off that £25m in a couple of seasons if absolutely necessary - it would not surprise me in the slightest if Ashley is able to pay of £25m of his loan this season alone in spite of the revenue drop, although I'd never have recommended cutting back this far. With our turnover, I'd have thought relatively speaking we'd be one of the better risks in the premiership, and only those who went majorly OTT like Portsmouth got into trouble they couldn't get out of. We were NOTHING LIKE Portsmouth in how far we stretched ourselves beyond our means. As one comparative example of a club with no sugar daddy, Everton have a debt of £41m with a turnover of £80m, wages £50m (May 2009). From an outside viewpoint without looking into it in too much detail, they're managing to get through the financial crisis okay. All other things being equal we should easily be able to achieve at least £10m more turnover than Everton, so a £10m higher wage bill is sustainable. I wouldn't say Everton are particularly well run financially, but you would not say finances were "about as bad as it can get" there would you, and their loans aren't at threat of being foreclosed and forcing them into administration are they? Or should they be worried? How do you know we were at the end of our credit line? I have a mortgage on my house, but it doesn't mean I can't loan any more money. It depends on the value of the house and the amount of the current mortgage. The stadium loan is secured against gate receipts, did we have anything secured against the TV income? Even if we did the value of this has risen significantly. Note, I am not saying we should have or needed to increase the debt from what it was, just addressing the point that we were at the end of the line with nowhere left to turn if extra debt was required. I'm not saying the club was healthy when he bought it, but it was no more sick than most of the rest of the league, bar a few lucky teams. Personally I have no confidence that Ashley is looking to run this club at a level anything other than to do enough to survive in the Premiership year-on-year as he pays back his debt. Players brought in will be cheap, some will do well and some will be poor. The "success" rate will probably be quite good, as you're not expecting much from a cheap player, whereas it seems anyone over £5m has to be a world beater to justify their cost, however the overall quality of the team will diminish even further. The ones that do poorly will add to the depth of the squad, but also to it's mediocrity, the ones that do well will be out the door as soon as someone offers a pot of cash for them (the disloyal bastard has been touting himself around for ages) or if they dare to ask for a wage they could get elsewhere (the mercenary cunt - it was in the paper he wants £60k a week!). Support and interest in the club will dwindle, some of that will be fickle and would come straight back with results, but some will be lost forever and will take years of (relative) success to build back up. IMO every year Ashley owns this club it will be harder and harder for us even to get back to where we were as a club when he bought it let alone surpass that. I hope he proves me wrong, but he hasn't so far, and to do so he'd have to completely go against his nature and previous business practices. Arnt we in a better position than when he bought it already?

Nowt lying or coming out th skys at the mo. What has come down has been that wet sleety snow.

How guilty do I feel. Buying the bairns new bike at JJB instead of Sports Direct. Sorry Mike, but you had none in pink.

Why trust a story where the journalist hasn't done the most basic fact checking? He's made a £20m+ profit on the transfer market It's basically an Ashley propaganda piece. Same line as 2 years ago.... “Just print that we paid £250 Million for the club”. Is that true? I understood that having paid off monies owed on the likes of Luque etc, that wasnt the case. That's what the books say.... Not doubting "the book", but I would like to see those figures in two columns ins and outs and see if they really include the transfer fees outstanding from Shepherd time that Ashley paid off. I think the ins and outs leave Ashley over £20m in profit, I guess the accountants figure of £18m includes those outstanding payments on Shepherd signings. Not that it alters the factual inaccuracy. Whatever was left to pay, Ashley remains in profit on transfers. Still like to see the two columns if anyones got them to hand.