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Tell you what this planning committee is doing well so far, first the signs at SJP and now this....

I was sure it was this fella, Brian F O'Byrne from Brotherhood and Heroes. Spit of him!

Fuck PMs for a download, get it posted on here

Fuck me

What are you on about? Where have I tried to make out anything about the stadium debt other than to point out that it wasn't down to Ashley. Also, have you got any links to quotes that Ashley was whinning like fuck? The only time I have seen him mention the extra debt was when he said that he would have still bought the club if he had known about it. That would be the begging phone call he made to Deloittes the day after he bought the club, shouting at them to "ring the Chinese and see if theyre still interested".

It was 5.9m and not payable until 6 months later. Good business that like considering we were dealing with the worlds richest club who were desperate to get Given

Im guessing its way higher than that, I assume you're working on the assumption of income being the same which as HF says is well down and I think its way more than we realise. We have little in the way of sponsorship, our main sponsor paid a fraction of what they did previously. Corporate is well down, Spurts Direct advertising boards around the ground are now in the majority so theres a major loss in income there. Merchandising, season ticket sales, pies n pints are all way below what they used to be when wages were 70%. My argument all along is that theres a more sensible way to reduce the percentage of wages to turnover and thats to increase the turnover. The option taken was the shopkeeper method, ie sack staff, close shops and make savings there. This isnt a chain of charver clothes shops its a football club which only makes real money when its competing. We also have to remember that any loss made by Shepherd included the 5m or so p/a that was paid in interest charges on the £70m debt, Ashely doesnt have that cost so there should have instantly been a £5m improvement, yet the opposite appears to have happened.

Maybe it should be made clear by local businesses etc that any company taking on the work of erecting these signs will be boycotted.

I dont believe I am. The 2006/07 season would have ran from Aug 2006 to May 2007. Ashley bought Halls shares in May 2007 and Shepherds in the June so he came into the club at the end of the 2006/07 season ie directly after the end of the season being talked about by Deloittes. If the article means to report a profit in 2006/07 then thats badly worded to say the least but again I would imagine thats not the case seeing as how it wasnt written about until May 2008.

You would have thought your granny would have at least warned you Kev, bad crack that like.

tbf I was calling you thick because you would actually believe the club!

Then you clearly have sealed your place as a WUM. Deloittes are the football analysts, they have access to the books, therefore it was the club saying the profit was made you thick fuck. Deloittes dont randomly guess, they analyse the accounts of the clubs, they research every aspect and they're data is used by sensible people when buying a football club...oh and its also used by daft fucks when buying a club rather than do due diligence. Ashley employed Deloittes while purchasing us, he also made a call to them two days later begging them to sell it on for him, trouble was they told him where to go because he refused to take their advice (ie do due diligence) when buying it.

Firstly, the club had £69m debt at the end of the 06/07 season, more importantly though they were one of only 8 Premiership clubs to make a profit (£6.8m) so Im a little lost as to where this "club in the shit before Ashley" line ever comes from. Ashley reckoned that he lent the club £111m on taking over to "pay some of the debt off, not all of it but some". How is that when the season before we had £69m? where did the other £42m magically appear from? So anyway in 07/08 we were £111m and near the start of the 08/09 season we were told that MA was covering the losses of half a million per week so that equates to £26m putting us £137m in debt however there was also a £30m overdraft on top of the Ashley debt so by my reckoning we were £167m in debt at the end of 08/09 we then lost £30m through relegation putting us almost £200m in debt. We clearly lost money last season but then got promoted and a statement was made that we'd cleared £25m of debt through that so I reckon conservatively we're £180m+ in debt at this point in time. SO..back to my question, how can we say that we were in the shit when we were only one of 8 clubs to make a profit?

Yup, expect him to be dropped on 24 games

Lad at work drowned last week we had a whip round and bought a wreath shaped like a lifebelt its what he would have wanted.

Anyone doing the GNR this year? Who gets our cash then? Some of the more recognisable names are: Among the runners will be 2009 X Factor winner Joe McElderry, who will be running for the Teenage Cancer Trust, singer Ellie Goulding and celebrity chefs Gordon and Tana Ramsay. Radio 1 presenters Scott Mills, Greg James and Nick Grimshaw will also be taking part. In addition, three cast members from Coronation Street, including Craig Gazey, who plays Graeme Proctor, Graeme Hawley, also known as John Stape, and Vicky Binns, who plays Molly Dobbs, will be taking part in the event in aid of Leukaemia and Lymphoma Research. Running for Emmerdale will be Tony Audenshaw, known as Bob Hope, Tom Lister who plays Carl King, and Nicola Wheeler, who plays, Nicola De Souza. Jake Wood, who appears on our screens as Max Branning, will be flying the flag for EastEnders. Simon Bird and George Caulkin will be running with RunGeordieRun as well. > http://markallisonjogtole.blogspot.com/ Also the wife of Liverpool keeper Brad Jones raising money for Anthony Nolan Trust > http://www.anthonynolan.org/News/Latest-st...hony-Nolan.aspx

Just bumping this as its time to unsticky it.

So do I mate. This post? Theres two things need to be done to get us operating at a profit: Firstly we need to get the advertisers and corporate sponsors back on board and the only way to do that is to give them a team that their clients will want to come and see. What you have to remember is neither of those entities have any real affiliation to the club, they are using a football team as a means to get their name out to the widest audience and/or entertain potential clients. The day we were relegated a number of corporate sponsors will have moved 10 miles down the road. What sounds better to a potential multi-million pound client "today we're taking you to see the local team play Manchester United" or "today we thought we'd treat you to the wonder of Stockport". Once they've moved and got their box with the scum then its going to be hard to get them back unless the reverse happens or we make them an offer too good to refuse but while theres the threat of relegation then they'll not want the hassle. Secondly is merchandising, sales of the famous black and white stripes across the world, sales in Newcastle would not have dropped by hugely significant numbers if they had given us a shirt of the Adidas quality but as it stands some have been lost through that. Worldwide though and we've been hit heavily by the shite thats gone on. No longer are we everyones second team or the entertainers, we no longer have players the calibre of Shearer that make kids up and down the country want to replicate being them in the playground by pulling on the shirt. Same goes for abroad, its players that sell shirts to the Japanese and Africans not clubs. Man U shirts are embalzoned with Rooney (especially in Thailand ) while numerous kids in Tokyo wear LA Galaxy shirts purely for the word Beckham. Have a successful team and you sell shirts, mugs, calendars, posters, branded bog roll, you name it they'll buy it. You tie up sponsorship deals with Asian network tv to launch your own channel etc etc. Contrary to what you may think Im in no way a Shepherd lover, I danced a fucking jig the day Ashley took over and berated Leazes about it but I can clearly see the gulf between him and the current lot. Shepherd knew how to maximise the assets we had, yes it went to shit but not because of off the field business decisions.

Haven't you seen Peter's yacht? Your loss. The silence speaks volumes tbh Its hardly a yacht............... more a speedboat really. I dont and because each member could vote for upto 10 people it becomes hard to say however Ive just had a look at the results they sent to all candidates and there were a total of 2947 votes cast, 285 of those were for the person who received the most votes. So, the minimum number of people who voted must have been 285 and the maximum 2947 however Id assume most members picked a number of candidates so maybe an average number of 7 votes per voter? so thats what? 842? Dont ask me how many members there are though as Ive not been privvy to any of that info for a good while.

Hes not exactly a great subject to convert tbh

A supporters trusts aim is to get fans representation on the board of the football club or ideally to purchase it all. That is, the nature of a trust. Overall though it should be a lot more than that, it should represent the fans and provide a voice, we all know that the likes of Sky News give airtime to anyone so having a recognised body who give the actual views of the fans is a must. NUST half got there, it established good quality links with the media and provided a sensible voice, trouble is it never consults its members on what that voice should say. What we have to remember here is that we didnt set out to create a trust, we started a Supporters Club, something that was much needed, it was born of frustration (©James 1992) and tried to do too much too quickly but it got there in the end, what it then needed to do was move into the things that Supporters Clubs do, away trips, organising kids days and getting itself aligned to the football club etc. YWC threw all of that and gave some people too much belief in their own self importance.

One or two of us were yes but thats not the problem, it was a fair election and (in my case anyway) my manifesto didnt fit with the way the members wanted, it appears that YWC seduced many members, thats fair enough. Many of the original people are still there, trouble is there now appears to be a bit of a power struggle. Three members of the board basically built themselves an empire which was then added to with the new people who were elected. A couple of the real hard working ones who built it up are now being bullied out in any kind of debate so its now a case of "what the chairman says goes". * The fact that no AGM appears to be on the cards is wrong as far as Im concerned. *Allegedly.

We are in 3 times as much debt as we were when Ashley bought the club (the source cant get much better, its the club itself), our turnover is probably half of what it was when Ashley bought the club, our standing in world football is probably a tenth of what it was when Ashley bought the club an d Id agree before you shout, that it was on the decline before Ashley but hes accelerated that decline. I must be as thick as you say Leazes is because I cant for the life of me understand how its better to be £180m in debt than it is to be £60m. You keep talking about it being better to owe £60 and operate at a £10p/w profit than owe £20 and run at a loss. That would be all well and good if we were operating at a profit but we're not we haemorrage money. The only way to start operating at a profit is to make our incomings greater than our outgoings. Now that hes slashed the wage bill, sacked loads of hard working loyal staff and cut costs left right and centre then whats next? We're still running at a loss, we dont even have a Matchday sponsor and half the billboards around the ground are advertising Sports Direct so we're not bringing in revenue from those.